Lord of the Rings

[NikolaeVarius]

:thumbsup:That makes a lot of sense actually. Kind of gives me an even deeper appreciation for the story knowing that.

http://www.cracked.com/article_19621_6-fictional-places-you-didnt-know-actually-existed.html

 

[Squisher]

Nothing to be all emo about, it's just the one ring sucking the very life out of you.

 

[lokiju]

When the 3rd came out in theaters I did that marathon some locations were doing where they play the extended cuts of 1 & 2 and then theatrical cut (of course) of the 3rd.

I will never forget how much I loved the movies and experience but also HATED how it kept seeming like the fade out to the ending only to keep going over and over and over again.

Was getting pretty restless after 12 hours of sitting in a theater to say the least

Got a cell of film out of it though

 

[JulesMaximus]

Bromance is strong in these movies.

Not only between Sam and Frodo, but also between Pippen and Merry. The elf and the dwarf were also touched by it.

I almost feel like one of Peter Jackson's hidden themes was to show that it's ok for men to love each other.

Not in 'merica it isn't.

 

[bearxor]

Fellowship was definitely the strongest of the three movies. Towers was probably the weakest. Return is really right there in the middle for me.

I have always said that the best place to end that movie was the coronation scene where they all bowed down to the hobbits. Cinematically, it makes the most sense I think.

 

[sactoking]

Fellowship was definitely the strongest of the three movies. Towers was probably the weakest. Return is really right there in the middle for me.

I have always said that the best place to end that movie was the coronation scene where they all bowed down to the hobbits. Cinematically, it makes the most sense I think.

Maybe, but then you kinda miss the whole message about having to go home when nothing can ever really the same again.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Fellowship was definitely the strongest of the three movies. Towers was probably the weakest. Return is really right there in the middle for me.

I have always said that the best place to end that movie was the coronation scene where they all bowed down to the hobbits. Cinematically, it makes the most sense I think.

What

 

[MetalMat]

I liked the battles, outside of that I felt the movies were on the boring side.

 

[bearxor]

Maybe, but then you kinda miss the whole message about having to go home when nothing can ever really the same again.

Nobody cares.

What

What?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Nobody cares.

And people wonder why quality cinema is so rare

 

[sactoking]

Nobody cares.

Ummm, that's kinda one of the major themes to the story; if you cut that out then it's pretty pointless to do any of it.

 

[Icepick]

Re: Emo Frodo

You have to remember that among Tolkein's perspectives that he wove into the story were his WWI experiences. He served in the 11th Battallion of the British Expeditionary Force, fought in several historic battles, and spent a great deal of time seeing friends and fellow soldiers die:



By the time WWI ended, all but one of his childhood friends had been killed.

So, that's where the "emo" or "homo-eroticism" comes from. That kind of criticism from a bunch of spoiled internet addicts who do not have the faintest concept of the absolute horror of trench warfare in WWI (and specifically the raw efficiency as technology entered warfare in a brutally efficient, and absolutely hellishly inhuman manner) is so ridiculous that it should be embarassing.

FWIW, Tolkien had a real revulsion with the cost of massive industrialization. Much of his mooning over the shire and nature in LotR stems from watching farmlands at home paved over and replaced with the bleak grime and soot of early industry. He was a bit of a naturalist, and would probably be dissed as a "hippie" today, despite the pipe, tweed jacket, and background in academia and languages.

The dead marshes scenes where Frodo could see shadows of dead soldiers under the swampy water is said to have been directly influenced by Tolkien's service in WWI. Tolkien most likely saw similar things with fallen comrades being half sunken in muddy trenches, fox holes or blast holes.

 

[Ns1]

I loved the movies but yeah it did kinda start dragging.

Of course, after 10 hours of film, I guess you're entitled to 4+ fade to blacks.

 

[SandEagle]

didn't care too much for the first 2, but the last one rocks

 

[Icepick]

FWIW Peter Jackson did a good job bringing the books to life. It's disappointing that some crucial scenes were left out (Tom Bombadil, Scouring of the Shire) or severly altered (Elves at Helm's Deep.) These unfortunately were necessary to keep the films' length reasonable and to keep the story more cohesive and bland enough to suit the masses. It would have been difficult for him to explain why Tom Bombadil, though he seemed so powerful, did not show up to help in the fight against Sauron or why the elves wouldn't help the humans resist. The Scouring of the Shire would have seemed a bit anti-climactic in the Hollywood sense since the main antagonist of the three films was already vanquished.

 

[bearxor]

Horse hockey. The only thing I hear about that movie is "Oh my god, when is the real ending going to happen?' There's only 4 endings to that movie right? There's Frodo waking up, there's Aragorn's coronation, there's the return to the shire and Sam's wedding and then there's Frodo's goodbye.

Look, I UNDERSTAND the point of all this. I thought it was really well done. But by the time the movie really, really ends, it's like a half hour from the climax of the film... The climax is the climax... It's the pinnacle. It's supposed to be the culmination of the entire story. Keeping the audience in the theater that long after the climax just doesn't make sense. You've already cut out the scouring of the shire, why do we need to see Frodo go back to eventually leave? Why do we need to see Sam marry bar wench? It doesn't matter. Yes, it's nice closure, I don't disagree, but save it for the extended edition.

You have the audience's adrenaline pumping after the massive battle and Frodo's own battle with himself. You see Frodo being saved and waking up. You have the coronation, where the line of kings is restored and he gets the girl. Then, he recognizes the Hobbits and they basically just say 'Hey, we're all here because of you.' The camera pans out and you see the entire crowd and the music is playing and fade to black and CREDITS!

The perfect place to end the film. Send your audience out on a high note for a movie like this. Just because the ending is dark doesn't mean it's "quality cinema". The movies are great, wonderful adaptations of a book. But, when you make a movie, you need to accept that you're making a movie.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

What no. Thats insane. Thats the worst possible spot to end the movie. You obviously have no idea what the movie was actually about.

 

[bearxor]

Ok.

 

[brianmanahan]

Don't do it man. waste of your time.

You would have enjoyed them when you were 10. Now...blech.

The movies are a milliondy x better.

defriended imho

 

[Sixguns]

I am not much of a book reader but this is a series I would like the read. I know the books are huge and it will take me years to complete since I might read them once or twice a week but I think its a good idea to find out about some of this stuff you guys are talking about.

 

[Lummex]

Love the books and the movies very much. The Hobbit was what began my descent into fantasy-nerd-dom when I was 13 (other than Harry Potter, I suppose).

 

[PowerEngineer]

I am not much of a book reader but this is a series I would like the read. I know the books are huge and it will take me years to complete since I might read them once or twice a week but I think its a good idea to find out about some of this stuff you guys are talking about.

Read the Hobbit first, then LOTR.

Think about reading a few pages each night as part of your bed time routine. IMHO it helps reinforce the sense of time over which the story unfolds.

Wish I could read those books again for the first time...

 

[brianmanahan]

noooooobody cares for the books anymore

 

[jumpncrash]

noooooobody cares for the books anymore

because they are all idiots, the books are 100x better!

The movies are fine, but honestly the only one I can really watch is fellowship cuz the others got WAY too butchered

 

[Sixguns]

I used to read everynight until my family moved and I got a TV in my room. I have been trying to get back into it. It seems I sleep a lot better if I read before I go to sleep instead of watching TV. So I guess Ill pick up The Hobbit first and go from there.