Loop Check & Some Questions on WC Setup

[maxSe]

Going back to WC after ~4 years of hiatus.. Still in the process of collecting cooling parts but want some expert opinions on the gear and check my loop plan.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Not going for the crazy OC, but the goal is moderate OC with reasonably silent rig.

Hardware to be cooled:
CPU: X3350
Board: DFI LT DK X48 (no plan of putting the chipsets under water yet)
Graphic: 2 x 3870 xfired

Cooling Hardware (still in process):
CPU block: Apogee GT (bought it) or D-Tek Fuzion (planning on getting it)
GPU blocks: EK 3870 full cover blocks
Pump: Swiftec MCP655 vario
Res: not decided on it yet.. thinking bayres or EK tubes..
Rad: same as above but will be one 240 and one 120.
Tubing: Tygon 1/2 OD.
Case: Rocket Fish full tower with custom 480 AC Ryan Rad Grill on top.
PSU: CM Real Power Pro 750

This is the loop I'm thinking of building:
240 rad -> CPU -> (possibly chipset/pwm block) -> 120 rad -> EK 3870 -> EK 3870 -> res -> pump

Ideally, I would like to put another pump in the loop - most likely right before the 120 rad...

Here are some questions I like your opinions on:
- Most importantly, does the loop make sense? :laugh:
- would single 655 pump be sufficient? (let's say it's the CPU and GPU blocks in the loop only)
- would my PSU be able to handle two 655 pumps?
- I'm going for total internal install of all parts, and fans for the rads will be Panny M1A's. This wll create too much positive airflow imo (4 intake and 1 exhaust). Should I be worried about this?

Again, any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading this far.

 

[aigomorla]

res: Swiftech MicroRes, OR Bitspower WaterTank with D5 Coupler.

Microres can be found almost anywhere, the Bitspower stuff you need to head over to performance-pcs.com

Rad: how deep are your pockets? Fesser makes some nice radiators, however they cost litterally an arm and a leg. Thermochill's are also uber nice, but they cost uber expensive as well.

If your trying to keep a budget, MCR series can never go wrong.

Tubing: i recomend you going with masterkleer and using the money difference on good fans for your radiators.

Ultra Kaze 3krpm models is my first recomendation. Then coems the Zalman 120mm fans.



-Answers to your questions:

1. no your putting too much heat load on that.
2. no because there is no single loop solution to xfire + quadcore with 120x3 radiator setup.
3. 2 655's wouldnt even give your psu the hickups.
4. Ultra Kaze on controller FTW:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12x38scdfuka2.html

OR
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12zazmsicafa.html

You really want to split your loop up.

Any reason why you like the D5 so much? Can i recomend a different pump combo? you use the D5 for GPU loop. And use the new pump combo for the cpu loop?

 

[maxSe]

Can i recomend a different pump combo? you use the D5 for GPU loop. And use the new pump combo for the cpu loop?

Yes please! I'm quite indifferent to them (other than the fact that I already bought one.. ) I looked at several other pumps but it seemed the D5's gave the most performance/$.. By all means, please point me to right direction.

I thought the microres would be too smallfor my loop, but for 2 separate loops, 2 of them would make sense (good thing I have at least one on its way..). Lol. That Bitspower one looks nice too.. hmm..

I'll be going with Tygon only because I think I have some left over that I bought from building my friend's setup - single loop only CPU. Same thing with the Panny, but I'll definitely look into getting some Kaze.

I agree on Fesser - I love those, but I like my arm and my leg.. Besides, it gets difficult trying to spend money on this without my wife raising her eye brows.. :laugh: Thermochill is kind of within my budget, but I was also looking into the DD GTX 480 as well (since I do have the space for it). Would I be able to run 2 loops out of that 1 rad, or should I just go with 2 totally separate loops?

Again, thanks a bunch for showing this noob the right way!

 

[aigomorla]

a good friend of mine named martin showed me that the 480GTX can hold 1KW heat load with kaze's at full blast and hold a watercoolant delta of 7C.

If your an experienced h2oer, your probably going OMG at those numbers and probably fell off your chair in shock that h2o has progressed so far.

However 3k Kaze = LOUD. So i recomend dual loops. :X


As for the pump/res recomendation:
Pump:
http://www.jab-tech.com/Swifte...v-DC-Pump-pr-3510.html

+

Reservoir:
http://www.jab-tech.com/XSPC-A...Laing-DDC-pr-4123.html

The res is basically the TOP.
And that config would give a D5 a good shakedown.

The only config that can beat it for h2o setups is the RD-30, or this little guy:
http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_0950.jpg

However he costs 200 dollars.


Anyhow back ontopic since your willing to listen.
The D-tek and Apogee are the same and also completely different class blocks.
The ApogeeGT is a low restriction class. So is the D-tek V1.
However the D-tek V1 has a injector option you can buy. This makes this block into an accelerator class.

Now in accelerator class, or impingment jet blocks, you need head pressure. This is why im recomending that res/top pump combo. If you look at the two pumps, the D5 has more flow, but that DDC will beat it in head pressure.

But on a different note, since your wiling to buy a new block, how about i recomend you something that matches what you have.

You have a Quadcore. Currently 2 blocks are fighting for first place, however i know who the winner is.
Yet not one will ever listen, because no one tests with massive head pressure. :T

1. D-tek V2.
2. EK-Supreme.

Which is better with single pumps both are the same, however the D-tek you need to purchase an optional Quad Plate

If you give more head pressure, like dual ddc's, the EK will clearly win.
And because the EK has a larger and wider channel area, i am willing to make a good guess that its gonna be more NEHA friendly then the D-tek is.