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werepossum

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You must have missed the chart that shows that Stevens and Ginsberg were the very definition of centrist when they were nominated and confirmed. Ginsberg even leaned right for much of the first half of her tenure. It's a pity that all your "centrist" sources neglect to include this information when they arm you with your two-dimensional talking-point bricks that you love to lob. I have no doubt that you will lob this very same brick again in the near future even though you have now been informed that it is bullshit.
Dang! I hate to miss comedy gold!
 

werepossum

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Yeah the other examples weren't as looney tunes, but Von Mises is pretty much a backwards cesspool the way Firedoglake was.
I certainly wouldn't argue that Ludwig von Mises isn't generally speaking, loony tunes. I do take issue with the idea that anything loony tunes is somehow conservative.
 

werepossum

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I'm really glad he did that as it totally exposes his claims of being a centrist as either transparent lies or just a total ignorance of what centrism actually is. The Ludwig Von Mises institute is about the furthest right think tank that exists not just in the US, but basically anywhere in the world and he cited it as being an example of something pretty close to the middle. Again, it is so far to the right that it literally rejects the principle of taxation but to him that's 'reasonably centrist'. Meanwhile the Brookings Institute is one step away from communism. lol.

We are either dealing with a deeply crazy person, a deeply stupid person, or a liar. (or maybe some combination of the three!)
They are anarchists, which is an extremely unconservative position. Perhaps you remember the anarchists - they have a habit of physically attacking every conservative speaker approaching a university, to hear you guys tell it anyway.
 

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Centrist regarding left or right, Democrat or Republican. You'll never find anything advocated by the Lugwig von Mises Institute on either party's platform, or find any significant party politician advocating the same thing.
Anything? They frequently talk about state intrusion the exact same way far right Freedom Caucus politicians do, except they're even more right-wing. Some of them are anarchists but that's way too broad a generalization, they're far more on the side of tiny government than no government. I've read their stuff, it's for sure ultra conservative, out of the mainstream, but by definition not "centrist".

I certainly wouldn't argue that Ludwig von Mises isn't generally speaking, loony tunes. I do take issue with the idea that anything loony tunes is somehow conservative.

There are plenty of anti-vaxers and anti-GMO lefties here on the West coast, they piss me off when they demand to be taken seriously. That's looney tunes.
 

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They are anarchists, which is an extremely unconservative position. Perhaps you remember the anarchists - they have a habit of physically attacking every conservative speaker approaching a university, to hear you guys tell it anyway.
Yes we all know "small government" is very unconservative.
 

fskimospy

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They are anarchists, which is an extremely unconservative position. Perhaps you remember the anarchists - they have a habit of physically attacking every conservative speaker approaching a university, to hear you guys tell it anyway.

Yes, clearly advocating for so much less government that it doesn't exist is not at al conservative. Saying that taxation shouldn't exist is not at all conservative.

Seriously, what drugs are you on?
 

werepossum

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Anything? They frequently talk about state intrusion the exact same way far right Freedom Caucus politicians do, except they're even more right-wing. Some of them are anarchists but that's way too broad a generalization, they're far more on the side of tiny government than no government. I've read their stuff, it's for sure ultra conservative, out of the mainstream, but by definition not "centrist".

There are plenty of anti-vaxers and anti-GMO lefties here on the West coast, they piss me off when they demand to be taken seriously. That's looney tunes.
Maybe I'm wrong. The only things I've read from them have been regarding abolishment of intellectual property rights, which is a far left concept (far enough left that I wouldn't associate it with Democrats either) and abolishment of all government regulation. That's certainly ONE area that the right harps on in specific instances, but don't forget that the right and Republicans are every bit as fond of using the armed might of government to control people as is the left and the Democrats. If we had an overwhelmingly Republican Congress and White House, with a safe electorate, we'd have every bit as much regulation and government as we have now, just aimed differently.
 

werepossum

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Yes, clearly advocating for so much less government that it doesn't exist is not at al conservative. Saying that taxation shouldn't exist is not at all conservative.

Seriously, what drugs are you on?
Synthroid. The great thing about Synthroid is that it doesn't keep me from noticing the total lack of Republicans and righties advocating for no taxation or no government. Kinda like it doesn't keep me from noticing the people you guys insist are anarchists burning Berkeley to keep conservatives from being heard, or blocking bridges until Wall Street is dismantled.
 

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Lifer
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Maybe I'm wrong. The only things I've read from them have been regarding abolishment of intellectual property rights, which is a far left concept (far enough left that I wouldn't associate it with Democrats either) and abolishment of all government regulation. That's certainly ONE area that the right harps on in specific instances, but don't forget that the right and Republicans are every bit as fond of using the armed might of government to control people as is the left and the Democrats. If we had an overwhelmingly Republican Congress and White House, with a safe electorate, we'd have every bit as much regulation and government as we have now, just aimed differently.
Perhaps, but I think it's pretty clear Dems would find a way to over-regulate and grow gov't more than Repubs ever could if they had a similarly united government. The right is simply far less inclined to regulate or fund priorities in general, especially emergent industries/threats to public health as shown by two diametrically opposed states such as TX and CA.
 

fskimospy

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Synthroid. The great thing about Synthroid is that it doesn't keep me from noticing the total lack of Republicans and righties advocating for no taxation or no government. Kinda like it doesn't keep me from noticing the people you guys insist are anarchists burning Berkeley to keep conservatives from being heard, or blocking bridges until Wall Street is dismantled.

Similarly while no Democrats are advocating communism that doesn't mean that communism is not an extreme left ideology. How is this hard to understand?