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Looks like the repubs are going for it: vote to defund PP passes

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Jaskalas said:
This time, right now.

Your desire not to compromise is keenly felt and all sides are reciprocating.
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So when a republican congressman says they (republicans) should use every means possible to defund PP you take that to mean the dems would use every means possible and it would be the dems who are actually doing the threatening?

Interesting...I guess you are also of the opinion that terrorist who decapitate American hostages aren't the ones to blame for the beheadings because the US government didn't give into their demands.

You aren't too smart are you?
 
Jaskalas said:
This time, right now.

Your desire not to compromise is keenly felt and all sides are reciprocating.
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Self righteous control freak idiots who think they're on a mission from God can't compromise. If they can defund PP, it'll just encourage them to make women's constitutional right to abortion a moot point, unobtainium, one way or another.

Well, other than for affluent women who'll be able to "pop off for a holiday" in Canada or Sweden to obtain safe abortion while the rest of American women get stuck with back room practitioners or babies they don't want.

Whether rank & file righties notice it or not, the agenda at the top of their party is always classist. Always.
 
Paratus said:
Excellent point. It's too bad these two don't get it.

But since they want the government to own women, there's nothing to stop them from owning men too.

As Michal put it, it wasn't the government who put that baby there it was some guy. Maybe a forced vasectomy for men who who accidentally impregnate a woman who doesn't want the child?

And as Atreus implied killing a fetus is the greatest evil. There will be a lot less unwanted fetuses after careless men are forcibly snipped.

OR

We could understand that pregnancy has major implications for the life, health and well being of both the mother and father and fetus and should be left up to those directly involved instead of the government.
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Yup. Although most abortion foes would be fine with government-mandated vasectomies for men knocking up unmarried women if they are not supporting the child, I suspect they would not be so brickle based on the pregnancy alone.

pcgeek11 said:
I never said anything about balance.

I don't believe an organization that chops up babies to sell like a chicken should get any federal funding for anything, regardless of how much " good " they claim they do.
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I have a major problem with that as well, but we have to look at both sides of any proposed action. If we defund Planned Parenthood, then some poor women will have reduced access to reproductive health care. Therefore some of these women will forgo birth control, and given the higher failure rate of condoms, we can expect more pregnancies among women who don't want them and can't afford a child. We not only cause collateral damage casualties among the most vulnerable, we are indirectly increasing the very thing we oppose.

I've long maintained that no one should ever underestimate the GOP's ability to assemble circular firing squads, but in this case their own political interests would not be the only likely casualties.

Bitek said:
Great post possum!
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Thanks, buddy.
 
boomerang said:
From time to time I've wondered, how do the poorest of the poor pay for their abortions? When keeping a roof over your head, feeding your kids and keeping shoes on their feet is a daily struggle, just how do they cover the cost of an abortion? I'm hoping you'll know. It looks like abortion pretty consistently run about one million per year. How are those being paid for?
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really? 1 million abortions per year? where?

also: "How do x people (that I obviously hate) do x thing? I have no idea and I refuse to investigate this myself, so therefore it must be x thing that I hate! Ha ha! I have made an argument"

repubs: always fail at data.
 
Jhhnn said:
If the Repubs merely intended to ban the sale of fetal tissue they would have proposed that & that alone. They employ it merely as a dishonest device of emotionally appealing propaganda to support a much broader authoritarian agenda.
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Screw the Republicans. I am speaking for myself in My Personal Beliefs.

If a woman wants an abortion fine. She or her health care provider should pay for it.

Nobody or organization should be allowed to provide abortions and then be allowed to package and sell the body parts. It is a conflict of interest that they would encourage innocent women to have abortions and kill babies for profit.

The US Government should not provide funding for an organization committing such acts. I don't care if they separating the US donated funds from their butchering funds or not.
 
senseamp said:
Too bad they didn't invite PP to their PP hearing. Wouldn't want to give the organization you are smearing a chance to respond? So it's going to be a kangaroo court for emo pro-lifers.
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Your ignorance is showing too.

Why not have access to places where woman are taught how to deal with abortion before getting an abortion? Something like 92% of all abortions are due to social reasons. These woman need to be counseled.
 
John Connor said:
Your ignorance is showing too.

Why not have access to places where woman are taught how to deal with abortion before getting an abortion? Something like 92% of all abortions are due to social reasons. These woman need to be counseled.
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Why not give the organization that Republicans are smearing at their hearing a chance to respond? Because some of counseling mumbo jumbo?
 
John Connor said:
Your ignorance is showing too.

Why not have access to places where woman are taught how to deal with abortion before getting an abortion? Something like 92% of all abortions are due to social reasons. These woman need to be counseled.
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What do you think planned parenthood is, idiot?
 
John Connor said:
A butcher shop funded by tax payers selling baby parts? Am I in the ball park here?
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Republican approved. GOP Senate leader Mitch McConnell voted for the law that allowed selling of fetal tissue for research. GOP idiots' hero Dr. Ben Carson used harvested fetal tissue in his own medical research.
 
Oh FFS! You never head Carson talk about that did you?

You're a mindless drone who keeps reading far-left shit on the net. Go get some air!
 
ivwshane said:
Nope! And if I may use a line from a moron you may be familiar with:
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You are a fucking moron, punk!

"You're a mindless drone who keeps reading far-right shit on the net. Go get some air!"
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You ASK if you want to use my quote! Did I give you the right to use it? :colbert:

ivwshane said:
By the patients own money or via programs at the state level that allow for that sort of thing. If this is news to you then you probably shouldn't be discussing something you know nothing about.
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So yeah, people's tax dollars that don't want to fund this butcher shop? At least you know where the money came from.
 
pcgeek11 said:
Screw the Republicans. I am speaking for myself in My Personal Beliefs.

If a woman wants an abortion fine. She or her health care provider should pay for it.

What do you think is happening now? The abortion fairy is paying for it?

Nobody or organization should be allowed to provide abortions and then be allowed to package and sell the body parts. It is a conflict of interest that they would encourage innocent women to have abortions and kill babies for profit.

So these legally harvested body parts would go to research or people in need, how exactly? It's like saying oil change places shouldn't be allowed to recycle the oil they get from oil changes because it's a conflict of interest and would encourage people to get more oil changes. Except of course women don't get pregnant with the hopes of having an abortion. Well they do but only in your primitive brain, in the real world having an abortion is a very personal matter and usually weighs pretty heavy on a woman.

The US Government should not provide funding for an organization committing such acts. I don't care if they separating the US donated funds from their butchering funds or not.
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Well your whole argument has been debunked so really, you don't have a leg to stand on. Tell us, oh merciful overload, what else should people have to do to appease your desires?
 
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