Looks like the NForce2 boards are fairly problematic...
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2 reasons for that
1 mostly all AMD people buy the nforce2 now so there are no kt333 or kt400 problems to be had no one is building with them now (some people are but not many)
2 all the people that had trouble free perfect install are way to happy surfing and gaming to stop and tell us unlucky souls how wonderfull it is *grin
i currently use a kt133 system im building a new system around the epox+ board very soon
1 mostly all AMD people buy the nforce2 now so there are no kt333 or kt400 problems to be had no one is building with them now (some people are but not many)
2 all the people that had trouble free perfect install are way to happy surfing and gaming to stop and tell us unlucky souls how wonderfull it is *grin
i currently use a kt133 system im building a new system around the epox+ board very soon
ArmchairAthlete
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People aren't going to go making threads about how great they think the board is. We already know that, it'd be spam pretty much.
If they have problems they will post a thread of post in the A7N8X official thread.
I have an A7N8X Deluxe and am having some problems though...
If they have problems they will post a thread of post in the A7N8X official thread.
I have an A7N8X Deluxe and am having some problems though...
Its a new chipset with an immature BIOS. I think that accounts for about 90% of the issues. It introduces unprecedented end-user control over BIOS options that give total control over system settings. I'm guessing there are still bugs to be worked out considering its a new chipset with considerably more options.
It also introduces a lot of new features that haven't required troubleshooting in the past, such as dual-DDR and dimm compatibility and PCI/AGP locks. Also, the flexibility and support it provides to the entire Athlon Socket-A line (including the just released Barton) is pretty amazing as well, but will also compound any problems. That's not even getting into the amazing integrated capabilities of the nForce2 boards/chipset.
Many of the problems people run into are not b/c the board is unstable or problematic at default, its when you throw in the myriad other factors the board has to juggle when running out-of-spec. As with any new product, there's going to be growing pains, which many are willing to cope with for increased performance.
I think there is plenty of praise for the nForce2, which also leads to more problems. Experienced builders who can resolve most snafus by themselves will adopt early and recommend the board to those "wait-and-see novice types". Then those people go out and buy the board b/c they see some silly benchmarks and figure its plug-n-play like a Nintendo. Doesn't quite work like that; hence the majority of the problems you see here. As with anything that supports legacy devices, there is compatibility issues, but I've rarely seen any "show-stoppers" that prevent the boards from running at default.
Chiz
It also introduces a lot of new features that haven't required troubleshooting in the past, such as dual-DDR and dimm compatibility and PCI/AGP locks. Also, the flexibility and support it provides to the entire Athlon Socket-A line (including the just released Barton) is pretty amazing as well, but will also compound any problems. That's not even getting into the amazing integrated capabilities of the nForce2 boards/chipset.
Many of the problems people run into are not b/c the board is unstable or problematic at default, its when you throw in the myriad other factors the board has to juggle when running out-of-spec. As with any new product, there's going to be growing pains, which many are willing to cope with for increased performance.
I think there is plenty of praise for the nForce2, which also leads to more problems. Experienced builders who can resolve most snafus by themselves will adopt early and recommend the board to those "wait-and-see novice types". Then those people go out and buy the board b/c they see some silly benchmarks and figure its plug-n-play like a Nintendo. Doesn't quite work like that; hence the majority of the problems you see here. As with anything that supports legacy devices, there is compatibility issues, but I've rarely seen any "show-stoppers" that prevent the boards from running at default.
Chiz
Here's a happy Epox 8RDA customer with very little to complain about. The only issue I have right now is there is no legacy USB mouse support in bios. Which means if I boot into Safe Mode (Win98se) my USB mouse won't work unless I install it with the adaptor into the PS2 mouse port.
Like others have stated, it's a fairly new product and most fixes will be taken care of with future bios releases. And the fact that a lot of complaints/questions are about High bus speed operation which always brings about problems not normally encountered while running at default hardware settings.
Like others have stated, it's a fairly new product and most fixes will be taken care of with future bios releases. And the fact that a lot of complaints/questions are about High bus speed operation which always brings about problems not normally encountered while running at default hardware settings.
Texun
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I agree. The more popular chipsets will generate the most threads. I started a poll a few days ago asking for info from users who have had experience with ASUS and Epox because I wanted a comparison between the two manufactures. I avoided the "best motherboard" poll because the most popular boards will almost always show up in the results. Most popular + hottest features does tell everything, it only fills the forums and tilts the table.
My point: If the majority of users are buying X motherboard with Y chipset, those are the ones that will show up in here the most.
I don't have an nForce board but if I were to buy one tonight that's probably what I would get based on detailed reviews from several sources.
Good post!
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I guess if I didn't have a KT333 board and if the KT400a wasn't coming out soon I'd consider an NForce2 board as well. There really isn't much competition for it right now. And I guess that you all are right, there do seem to be a lot of happy customers out there also and they're too busy gaming/encoding/etc... to stop and complain about the board.
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I've been considering posting a "My nForce2 board runs great!" thread just to balance the "My nForce2 board has problems!" threads. Maybe Friday or so. 
Having helped troubleshoot a bunch of nForce2-related problems for people, I find that many of the supposed nForce2 problems turn out to be something else in the end. Mis-jumpered Western Digital hard drives, heatsinks installed backards, etc.
Having helped troubleshoot a bunch of nForce2-related problems for people, I find that many of the supposed nForce2 problems turn out to be something else in the end. Mis-jumpered Western Digital hard drives, heatsinks installed backards, etc.
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
I've been considering posting a "My nForce2 board runs great!" thread just to balance the "My nForce2 board has problems!" threads. Maybe Friday or so.
Having helped troubleshoot a bunch of nForce2-related problems for people, I find that many of the supposed nForce2 problems turn out to be something else in the end. Mis-jumpered Western Digital hard drives, heatsinks installed backards, etc.
The typical "the real problem lies between the keyboard and the chair" scenarios?
I guess we all have bad days. You do seem to help out a lot though. Racking up good karma is so uncommon these days too.i had to rollback to the microsoft IDE drivers to get my dvd burner to work
but other than that i have had zero problems with 8RDA
couldnt be happier!
but other than that i have had zero problems with 8RDA
couldnt be happier!
First time BIY person here, who is very happy with his Epox 8RDA+. From setup to my first OC, it has worked without significant problem. The only real problem I have had was with a faulty psu.
I will say that doing a fair bit of research and keeping a close eye on forums for other's 8RDA+ problems/solutions helped me quite a bit.
I will say that doing a fair bit of research and keeping a close eye on forums for other's 8RDA+ problems/solutions helped me quite a bit.
Did my first computer build last Friday with an 8RDA+ and an AMD XP2000 cpu...
I never had a single problem setting it up. It booted first shot and has been running ever since.
I havent even shut it down since the first boot up.. a few reboots etc.. but its been running very smooth and stable.
I never had a single problem setting it up. It booted first shot and has been running ever since.
I havent even shut it down since the first boot up.. a few reboots etc.. but its been running very smooth and stable.
I haven't heard of too many problems overall... it's the fact so many people are using them.. NForce2 is enthusiast specific... hardcore.. we're all enthusiasts in this forum..
depends on how widespread the product is i think.. some products from years ago still have problems., evidently are not going to be fixed... i will guess most of the issues are fixed when a new revision of the chipset is released. like i said... a guess.
Oh ha ha ha.
HEY! Its not MY damned fault they didnt put any orientation markings on the stoopid heatsink clips is it!? Well, IS IT?!?!
Maybe I'll post in that Nforce greatness thread...Next Tuesday. until then I'm havin too much fun
A) PLayin games on a granite stable setup
B) Surfin on a granite stable setup
C) PR0N!
D) OC'in to see just how far it goes before the granite cracks.
On the whole I agree with mech on most accounts. Alot of problems are "easily" solved once you find them. I would say other then the BIOS issues with the Asus boards, the NForce chipset is actually pretty bug free even for being relatively new. I've been very impressed and quite happy, experiencing only 1 problem I would dirfectly attribute to the chipset itself. That being static on my sound which only happens occasionally, and is cleared by a restart of the program playing the sound (Game, winamp). However, I cant say 100% its the chipset yet so...
No problems here
I got the itch to try out the nForce2 chipset. I did not have a single problem with my 8RDA+!
I tracked several of those "problem" threads... the majority of them were fixed and ended up being user error! Ask mechBgon...he was in the thick of it helping out.
I tracked several of those "problem" threads... the majority of them were fixed and ended up being user error! Ask mechBgon...he was in the thick of it helping out.
My major problem has been the nforce IDE controller drivers. They're a POS as far as I'm concerned. Went from a MSI Ultra (K2 I think?) to an Epox 8RDA+, no other changes. With the drivers installed, the IDE channels won't support DMA. Without the drivers, it supports DMA, but EAC hangs on pratically every disc on the last track.
I've seen other posts related to these, and the solutions are here and there.. disable USB 2.0, uninstall this, sacrifice a live chicken, etc. I'm ready to dump this board and take the Ultra back into the case.
I've seen other posts related to these, and the solutions are here and there.. disable USB 2.0, uninstall this, sacrifice a live chicken, etc. I'm ready to dump this board and take the Ultra back into the case.
Another happy user here with my Leadtek nf2, almost problem free except sometime system won't restart(more likely is my PSU) and CPUid error when pushing my cpu to the limit.
I don't know about others but Leadtek have been releasing new bios 2-3 every month, I am happy I chose them.
I don't know about others but Leadtek have been releasing new bios 2-3 every month, I am happy I chose them.
I have an Abit NF7-S. Runnin' smooth as silk now. XP 1800+ @ 166* 11.0= 1830. The PSU seems to be critical on the Abit. I had some early problems, but worked thru them. Run SETI 24/7.
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