Looks like no sanctions on Saudi Arabia per Trump

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Hayabusa Rider

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It's amazing how many people really hate America anymore. Helps to keep the bothsides argument alive.

That depends on who you are talking about and what hate means. To deny the proof by constructing false statements regarding who we were and are is a manifestation of national self-hate. The "ignore the man behind the curtain" isn't patriotism, quite the reverse.

But people do that and fail to realize just how powerful we are and those, especially those like Trump, will make things worse. We have demonstrated that our very system of picking leaders allows for a threat to the world and is why Europe can no longer trust us, even after Trump goes. The fundamental flaw remains and that isn't hate to point that out either.
 

Caesar

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Ah interesting. Didn't know that.

Edit: oops when you said put in place I didn't know you meant Obama vetoed it lmao

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-37455437

The Obama administration has long argued that the bill could end up putting the United States at risk of being similarly prosecuted in foreign courts by undermining a long-standing tradition in foreign relations known as "sovereign immunity."

"Nobody really had focused on the potential downside in terms of our international relationships," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-KY, said. "I think it was just a ball dropped."

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/27/11464180/9-11-saudi-lawsuit
 

K1052

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Whatever Haspel told the senators in the briefing seems to have inflamed them even more that the WH tried to cover it up. Admin officials, badly, lied to everybody about the probable level of MBS responsibility.

Congress could actually take meaningful action on sanctioning MBS, canceling arms sales, or withdrawing support for the Yemen massac...uh operation. That fucking idiot Kushner going all in on MBS could actually be the cause of the first meaningful break between the KSA and the US in decades.
 

amenx

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What happens when the U.S.'s strategic outlook includes what it views as containing Iran and its influence in the region. The U.S. (heavily egged on by Israel) considers Iran (whether rightly or wrongly) as the major threat to the stability of the region and sees Saudi as a counterbalance to that threat. That is why its trying to limit the fallout from the Khashoggi case on their relationship with the Saudis. Not that I necessarily agree with that outlook, but it IS the outlook of the Trump admin and Israel.