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Looks like Ind Gov Mike Pence is Trump's VP pick

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loki8481 said:
it would become prohibitively hard once Pence is officially confirmed as the VP nominee by the National Convention next week.
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Why? Votes were cast & he's the nominee. I understand people may view that as traitorous but we're talking about Trump voters.
I really could see Pence saying something dumb or doing bad in a debate and Trump "firing" him.
I just have a weird feeling this could happen.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Why? Votes were cast & he's the nominee. I understand people may view that as traitorous but we're talking about Trump voters.
I really could see Pence saying something dumb or doing bad in a debate and Trump "firing" him.
I just have a weird feeling this could happen.
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It won't happen. Life just isn't that good.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Why? Votes were cast & he's the nominee. I understand people may view that as traitorous but we're talking about Trump voters.
I really could see Pence saying something dumb or doing bad in a debate and Trump "firing" him.
I just have a weird feeling this could happen.
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You mean this isn't dumb enough?

Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer.
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(Pence, 2000)

http://web.archive.org/web/20010415085348/http://mikepence.com/smoke.html
 
boomerang said:
The T/P team!

"We need T/P in order to wipe away the shit from the last 8 years".

http://iotwreport.com/the-real-trumppence-logo/

teepee.jpg
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Yeh, the Bush Admin left behind more shit than anybody could clean up in 8 years, let alone anybody dealing with the Party of No.
 
loki8481 said:
Daniels took himself out of the VP pool a couple months ago and said he didn't want the offer (see also: every single other major Republican)
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But asking why can't he be President is a completely different question from his being Trump's veep choice.
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Why? Votes were cast & he's the nominee. I understand people may view that as traitorous but we're talking about Trump voters.
I really could see Pence saying something dumb or doing bad in a debate and Trump "firing" him.
I just have a weird feeling this could happen.
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there are legal practicalities... Trump can't just fire him, he'd need to reconvene the National Committee and have them vote for a new candidate.

if he just ran for President without a VP, the new Vice President would be elected by the US Senate which could very well be controlled by the Democrats at the time.
 
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Fanatical Meat said:
Seriously Boomer ignoring your humorous quips you appear to be a responsible mostly conservative guy. Are you happy with Trump and Pence?
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I wasn't that enamored with any of the 17 (was it 18?). Although I can't think of an election since I started voting where there was ever an enthusiastic choice for me. I also think too much power is ascribed to the office of the President. The President has specific powers and duties and in the best case, the power is shared by the Legislative and Judicial branches. Too many have a tendency to forget this.

Having said that, I think Trump is the right candidate at the right time. The nation desperately needs a return to conservative values and Trump has the right mix of conservatism and liberalism needed right now. He doesn't speak like a politician and although some of that is refreshing, it can be an embarrassment too. But he's a smart guy and he'll figure it out. I hope he remains rough enough around the edges to be effective because plain talk is what people need to hear. People can take it despite the PC, SJW movements that have gone way, way too far. Is he the best the party could have running? Perhaps, or perhaps not. I don't know who would have been clearly better.

I mostly like the degree to which he has self-funded his run. The apple cart needs to be upset and in a big way. He doesn't have to answer to anyone and the chances of his being manipulated like the person he'll be running against (that you want me to leave out of the equation) is infinitesimally smaller. The level of corruption is reaching critical levels within the cadre of career politicians that make up the political class. Electing an insider is a guarantee of maintaining the status quo. Personally, I think this could be our one and only chance and that we shouldn't let it slip away from us.

Pence, I know little about. I would rather have had Newt but the VP for conservatives is not a make or break. At least not for me. Newt however, would have been too much like having two of the same on the ticket. Newt too would have been far more polarizing. I think a balance is good and although I know little about Pence, you can pretty much tell he's more of a low key kind of guy. The VP is more of a blah position. As VP, the VP is more of a harmless eunuch and the possibility of that individual becoming the preezy is slim although without LBJ, the losing war on poverty would have freed up billions and billions and billions of dollars that could have been used for other potentially more rewarding endeavors.

It's all a crap shoot. Somehow the gears keep turning regardless but IMO the cost of turning those gears has got to be addressed. The comfort of the status quo won't lead to any changes, just escalation.
 
Meghan54 said:
You mean this isn't dumb enough?

Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media, smoking doesn't kill. In fact, 2 out of every three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness and 9 out of ten smokers do not contract lung cancer
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(Pence, 2000)

http://web.archive.org/web/20010415085348/http://mikepence.com/smoke.html
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Is/was he wrong though?

His statement feels stupid because of the lmsm fear mongering over smoking.

but according to this:
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-only-5-percent-of-smokers-get-lung-cancer

If you smoke forever, your odds of getting cancer are 15%, stopping at 50, puts your chances at about 5%
 
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IndyColtsFan said:
Even if Trump were to win, there is no way Pence will ever become President.
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You'll have to explain that part. Trump could drop over dead any day, and there's so much hatred for him from both sides of the aisle, that he'd be very likely to get some help in doing so from a very patriotic American citizen. Pence would be next in line.
 
Subyman said:
Trump certainly isn't trying to expand his demographic with that pick.
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I beg to differ. That's exactly what Trump is trying to do: Gain some support from the rank-and-file ("real") conservatives who have been mercilessly hammering him for being very far from someone who could be called a conservative. Trump might have also picked Cruz, but I think the verdict on Cruz became clear a long time ago - the guy is about as attractive to voters as a slug on a turd.
 
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Trump is a loser, and Pence a "proven" failed loser.
So it's only logical for Donald to chose Pence.
Besides, Pence was probably they only guy that showed any interest, considering his chances for getting re-elected so dismal.
The left in his state hate him because he signed that anti-gay order/law. The right in his state hate him because he flipped flopped and eventually gave in.
Option number three? Accept Trump's VP offer.

Remember that video where Pence stood before the cameras, breathing heavily into the mic and saying nothing?
Take clips of that video, which I am sure is readily available on Youtube, and mix with Donald Trump spewing his outrageous and nonsensical statements, and there you have it.
Hillary's perfect anti-Trump anti-Pence campaign ad.
If Hillary doesn't do it, late night comedy will.

(Note to myself. Create that video.)

Frankly, I still think Trump has a better than 50-50 chance at winning.
Considering the Clinton camp tends to continually shoot itself in the foot.
And then there's Bill.
 
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sportage said:
Trump is a loser, and Pence a "proven" failed loser.
So it's only logical for Donald to chose Pence.
Besides, Pence was probably they only guy that showed any interest, considering his chances for getting re-elected so dismal.
The left in his state hate him because he signed that anti-gay order/law. The right in his state hate him because he flipped flopped and eventually gave in.
Option number three? Accept Trump's VP offer.

Remember that video where Pence stood before the cameras, breathing heavily into the mic and saying nothing?
Take clips of that video, which I am sure is readily available on Youtube, and mix with Donald Trump spewing his outrageous and nonsensical statements, and there you have it.
Hillary's perfect anti-Trump anti-Pence campaign ad.
If Hillary doesn't do it, late night comedy will.

(Note to myself. Create that video.)

Frankly, I still think Trump has a better than 50-50 chance at winning.
Considering the Clinton camp tends to continually shoot itself in the foot.
And then there's Bill.
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There is a documentary about to hit theaters called Hillary's America.
 
Lolololololol! Listening to live coverage of the press conference about to begin wherein Trump and Pence will make their first joint appearance.

As we wait for them to appear, in the background the campaign is, and this is true and no joke, playing the Stones "You Can't Always Get What You Want" over the sound system. :biggrin:
 
dawp said:
pence is being fucked in the ass
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My wife saw the T as taking a shit in a P toilet.
I saw the ass ramming, but also a Roman Soldier maneuver.

One could also see a P handjob of T if you flip it over.

:thumbsup:

Trump is making McCain look competent with the Veep rollout.
 
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