Looks like Charlie Rangel might get Cantored - Primary

Cozarkian

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How sweet it would be to see more senior people of both parties go down in their primaries. :)

It sure would be. We need a nice balance, where enough incumbents get the boot every election to make them worry that pandering to special interest instead of their constituents will cost them their job, but enough keep their job to keep alive the hope that rejecting special interest money will allow you to get re-elected.
 

hal2kilo

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Good riddance. If he ever had any honor he should have resigned. I forget the idiots reelected him. What can you say.
 

nageov3t

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it's a funny race, given that he's being tag-teamed (Michael Walrond Jr. really has no shot, but he's siphoning African American voters away from Rangel)

really can't even figure out why he's running for another term other than ego. he's gotten no endorsements from any prominent Democrats that I can think of (well, Bill Clinton nominally endorsed him but hasn't put his money where his mouth is)
 

thraashman

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Rangel needs to be primaried. He's one of those politicians that has let Washington corrupt him too much.
 

werepossum

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Rangel needs to be primaried. He's one of those politicians that has let Washington corrupt him too much.
Yes, but at least Rangel was an authentic American hero. While ideologically I'm much closer to Cantor than to Rangel, I can respect Rangel on a much higher level than most Congresscritters, even if he's since fallen far, far below acceptable standards.

Just another reason why no one should be a career Congresscritter. Even the best don't stay clean if they walk in sewers of power for decades.
 
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Couldn't happen to a more deserving candidate. If you have no real challengers to your seat, there's no defense against corruption, and no one exemplifies that better than Rangel. And he'll still probably win, because it turns out the public is fucking terrible and determining who is the best person to lead them.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Yes, but at least Rangel was an authentic American hero. While ideologically I'm much closer to Cantor than to Rangel, I can respect Rangel on a much higher level than most Congresscritters, even if he's since fallen far, far below acceptable standards.

Just another reason why no one should be a career Congresscritter. Even the best don't stay clean if they walk in sewers of power for decades.

He's rotten. If he was once a saint he's been a devil for years upon years.
 

DucatiMonster696

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Looks like Charlie Rangel might get Cantored

Charlie Rangel Getting Hammered In Dem Primary For Wall Street Support
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/charlie-rangel-primary-wall-street_n_5490369.html



How sweet it would be to see more senior people of both parties go down in their primaries. :)


It didn't help that he made a bigoted remark against his rival and questioned his heritage. The guy is the epitome of a corrupt career politician who takes his office as a position to be abused for his own ends and means at the expense of taxpayers.
 

compuwiz1

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Rangel is a corrupt racist POS. Glad to see people are waking up and voting these kinds out. There is still much work to do, but the mid-terms are a coming and some, perhaps enough heads are gonna roll, that we get back to having a functional congress again.
 

Zebo

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Power corrupts... especially way our system is designed and after court decisions like Buckley v. Valeo, Bank of Boston v. Bellotti and Citizens United which totally corrupted the system we now have. They ALL do it Rangel got caught.
 

Jhhnn

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Power corrupts... especially way our system is designed and after court decisions like Buckley v. Valeo, Bank of Boston v. Bellotti and Citizens United which totally corrupted the system we now have. They ALL do it Rangel got caught.

I think it's unfair to say that they all do it. Really. They are offered enormous temptations, and some will get jaded & eventually succumb. Some just showed up to be bought in the first place.

OTOH, there are people of integrity everywhere, including Congress.
 

sportage

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It's the sex. No wife wants to be married to an x senator.
It's the hair. Have you ever seen a senator in person?
The hair is perfect.
Makes TV evangelist hair look like a mop rag.
I swear male senators must spend $500 on one styling alone.
And that's why they run. The sex and the hair.
No female wants a loser x senator for a mate. God forbid.
And waiting for a table at the restaurant? Outrageous.
Yep, even that good ole boy tea party senator has but one goal.
Sex and that perfect hair.
 

boomerang

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The best thing that could happen to the nation would be a 100% turnover in the upcoming election. Old guard out, new faces in.
 

Jimzz

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The best thing that could happen to the nation would be a 100% turnover in the upcoming election. Old guard out, new faces in.



I would be happy if there was regular turn over not the 80%+ re-election result that usually happens. But that is mostly due to gerrymandering and people voting for the party not the person.
 

trenchfoot

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IMO, it really doesn't matter if there are term limits or not, because if there were, it would simply mean the candidates would be vetted and corrupted even before their campaign brochures get printed.

The voting public would only be allowed to pick from those candidates that were pre-selected for their willingness to be corrupted prior to running for office, seeing as if that's already being done to begin with.
 
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xj0hnx

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Rangle belongs in a jail cell for fixing a Congressional vote.

He has belonged in a jail cell since at least the 80's. He should have been removed from Congress for his conduct during the Hughes Amendment proceedings.
 

Zebo

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I think it's unfair to say that they all do it. Really. They are offered enormous temptations, and some will get jaded & eventually succumb. Some just showed up to be bought in the first place.

OTOH, there are people of integrity everywhere, including Congress.

Warren...Sanders...list is very short. So short they are irrelevant.... perhaps you need to read why US is an oligarchy now. http://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/G...ens and Page 2014-Testing Theories 3-7-14.pdf
 

waggy

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He at one time may have been a honorable man. That was a very very long time ago.

I hope he loses but i suspect in the long term it won't matter