looking to spend ~2500 on amd based system.... ideas?

nuttervm

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i have a buddy who works for the navy, and they will give him roughly 2500 to build a workstation with. it is especially cool because they will actually let him build it himself, rather than be forced to buy dell or something. it will be primarily an engineering workstation, but i want to let him play some games on it too, since they let him keep it after his coop is done with.

he already has a 21 inch monitor so that is taken care of, i'd really like to get all the components from the same vendor (like mwave for example) and i want to build an amd based system. p4 machines are not worth the money, and i wont consider one unless there is some crazy price break really soon.

i want to plan this out as if i were buy it today, so please no suggestions on 'if you wait a month...'

i figure i can get him a gig of ddr ram, a 15k rpm scsi drive, 16x scsi plex burner, a big ide hd or two, sblive soundcard, NIC, and of course the fastest tbird available right now.

need suggestions on what to get:
tbird mobo
scsi card
video card
case (i'm thinking large server case, perhaps antec)
 

nuttervm

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i think that new tyan mobo nfs4 mentioned looks quite badass. i didnt know it was in stores yet... i think that takes care of a few of my questions.
 

Atlantean

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yeah go to pricewatch.com and then you can find pricing for all the components you need, I think that the k7 master is a mobo with 4 dimm so you could put 4 256 meg sticks of ddr ram in there (the 512 sticks are very expensive)
 

Adul

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with that much you could build to systems :) anyways the Tyan MB I think is out or nearly out, that would take care of a lot of things. Get a X15 HD, SCSI DVD-ROM, SCSI burner, a video card with GOOD 2D quality. **not nvidia** if he is going to be using a 21" monitor, 2d will be a very good thing to have.

Win2k pro and a 1GB of ram. A really nice sound card and some ide drives for storage.
 

MrHelpful

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From Newegg.com

AMD Thunderbird 1.33GHz 266MHz FSB OEM - $210 + shipping ($10)
ATi Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO - $172 + shipping ($5)
Netgear FA311 NIC - $15 + shipping ($5)
IBM 60GXP 60GB 7200RPM 2MB - $200 + shipping ($10)
Plextor 16x10x40x 2MB Burn-Proof - $181 + free shipping
Mitsumi 1.44MB FDD - $9 + shipping ($4)
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro - $40 + shipping ($6)
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical - $30 + shipping ($10)

From Plycon.com

Taisol CGK760 - $36 + shipping (unknown, ~$5)

From Crucial.com

(2) Crucial PC2100 256MB DDR-SDRAM - $124 + free shipping Use this to buy... Put your company in the box

From UCDWeb.com

Enermax EG365P-VE - $53 + shipping ($10)

From Mwave.com

EPoX EP-8K7A - $132 + shipping (unknown, ~$10)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz - $70 + shipping (unknown, ~$5)
Toshiba 16x48x DVD-ROM - $62 + shipping (unknown, ~5)

From EMSComputing.com

Boston Acoustics BA4800 4.1 - $115 + shipping ($15)

From Directron.com]

Antex SX1030B - $98 + shipping (unknown, ~$30)


Total - up to $1677 - shipping may be lower
 

Hanpan

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This has no vid card but since you already have a monitor you have $400 extra which is a gf3 and some change left over. :)
YOu might also want a plextor 12/10/32s burner and somce cheap ide storage.

Motherboard: $575
(video, SCSI, LAN)
4 x 256mb PC2100 DDR RAM (1Gb) $250
Antec sx1030 + 400watt PS $169 (I know....not quite enough)
2 x 1ghz AXIA $260
Cheetah X15 18.4gb SCSI Drive $330
Plextor 40x SCSI CDROM $85
Flat Screen, 19" Monitor $400
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz $80
Mouse, Keyboard, Floppy $100

Total: $2249


Thanks to ERJ

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Daniel

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Scratch the monitor from that above system since he doesn't need it, maybe put the money into another drive or a larger one if he needs that. Also does anyone know if the onboard video can be disabled on that board so he can put something better in it?
 

Atlantean

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2 ibm 75 gig 7200rpm hd's, 4 sticks 256 meg pc2100 ddr ram, 2 1400 mhz amd athlon (out in a few days), the tyan dual amd processor mobo, hercules game theatre xp, geforce3 vid card, lian-li case (pc60, pc68, or pc70), klipsch pro media speakers, should be a good starting point for the system
 

nsxdemon

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Make sure to get the HUGE power supply from Enermax, the EG651P-VE (530W). It's not like you'll be strapped for cash here!

Also, I'd get the following:
Lian-Li PC-70
Seagate X15
3x Seagate Cheetah 73.4 10K's with the X15. Why not go all SCSI when money's not a problem??
Go with the Tyan dual amd board that Atlantean is talking about with a pair of 1.4GHz tbirds.
GF3 for sure
SCSI DVD-ROM (maybe IDE since they're faster up to now)
Yamaha 2200 SCSI CDRW (the 20/10/40 one once it really gets out in a few days)
4x 256 DDR SDRAM PC2100 (or PC2400 if you can find them)
Fastest SCSI CD-ROM available
 

nsxdemon

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I take that CD-ROM back...bust your @$$ trying to find a Kenwood 72x, it's worth the effort and the time spent
 

Sugadaddy

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Antec SX1030 case (comes with 300W PS)
Microsoft Natural KB and Intellimouse Optical
Adaptec 29160 SCSI card
Pioneer 10X DVD SCSI
Plextor 12/10/32 SCSI burner
Seagate X15 18GB 15000rpm SCSI HD
60GB IBM 60GXP IDE HD
MSI K7 Master
1.33 ghz AMD Athlon
Taisol 760 HS/fan
4x Crucial PC2100 256MB DDR ram
Elsa Gladiac 920 Geforce 3 64MB
TB Santa Cruz or Hercules Gametheater XP
Intel or Linksys NIC
floppy
 

nsxdemon

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ah yes...don't forget the 250 MB internal SCSI ZIP drive as well...might as well fill those bays up
 

MrHelpful

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You guys don't know the meaning of restraint, do you?

If you want to fill up that $400 in my system, I would suggest getting another Samsung 900NF and toss in a cheap PCI video card. That's not restraint, but at least two monitors is useful, unlike the SCSI Zip.
 

nuttervm

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i was thinking a matrox g450 would be very good for the job. what about some other high end non gaming cards that would be good for cad and engineering work?

so far i kinda like sugadaddy and red's suggestions best as a whole.
 

MrHelpful

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From TCWO.com

(2) Intel Pentium III 1GHz bare - $372 + shipping ($7)

From Newegg.com

MSI 694D Pro Dual - $110 + shipping ($5)
ATi Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO - $172 + shipping ($5)
Netgear FA311 NIC - $15 + shipping ($5)
IBM 60GXP 60GB 7200RPM 2MB - $200 + shipping ($10)
Plextor 16x10x40x 2MB Burn-Proof - $181 + free shipping
Mitsumi 1.44MB FDD - $9 + shipping ($4)
Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro - $40 + shipping ($6)
Microsoft Intellimouse Optical - $30 + shipping ($10)

From Crucial.com/webpromo

(2) 512MB PC133 SDR SDRAM - $486 + free shipping

From Plycon.com

(2) Alpha PAL6035 with Sunon 26CFM fan - $60

From UCDWeb.com

Enermax EG365P-VE - $53 + shipping ($10)

From Mwave.com

Turtle Beach Santa Cruz - $70 + shipping (unknown, ~$5)
Toshiba 16x48x DVD-ROM - $62 + shipping (unknown, ~5)

From EMSComputing.com

Boston Acoustics BA4800 4.1 - $115 + shipping ($15)

From Directron.com

Antex SX1030B - $98 + shipping (unknown, ~$30)

Total - up to $2193 (shipping may be lower)
 

TheOverlord

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for that price get the tyan 760MP board or wait a few months and get one of the cheaper ones by MSI, Gigabyte, etc.