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Looking to build a new home theatre

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
SLC, get me some pics of the room and explain what is around it. If the walls of the room are outside walls that can be a pain in the ass, what floor is it on? give me as much info as you can about it and i'll give you some suggestions.

Will try to get pics later, can't right now.

The room is in the basement. On the back wall (15' away from where the screen will be), I have a laundry room, which is NOT fully finished. On the right of the room, is a hallway, that leads to other rooms on the other side of the hallway.

On the side where the screen is, as well as the left side of the room, is either just dirt/ground, or the nieghbors basement. I couldn't tell you which one it is. Directly above the room is the upstairs family room, which we're pretty much never in.

What else do you need to know?


From the sound of it you'll need to run the wires above the room, between the ceiling and the 1st floor, which in that situation can be a real pain... just depends on your house though.

Are you wanting to do an hdtv projector or a regular one?

you'll need to run your rear speaker wires, atleast 3 RG6 (i'd do 5 for future use) for the projector, you'll need a power outlet right there by the projector, and i'd run a cat5 to the projector as well for future use.

how big do you think you want the screen? the screen size and how much throw room there is for the projector can make a big difference in a projector choice.

I'd sit in the room where your going to put the seats and figure out how big of a screen you can have up there without having to turn your head to see the whole thing. In other words, you can look straight on and see the entire screen.
 
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
Absolutely not. Buying a professionally designed speaker/sub would be the best way to go.
 
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
SLC, get me some pics of the room and explain what is around it. If the walls of the room are outside walls that can be a pain in the ass, what floor is it on? give me as much info as you can about it and i'll give you some suggestions.

Will try to get pics later, can't right now.

The room is in the basement. On the back wall (15' away from where the screen will be), I have a laundry room, which is NOT fully finished. On the right of the room, is a hallway, that leads to other rooms on the other side of the hallway.

On the side where the screen is, as well as the left side of the room, is either just dirt/ground, or the nieghbors basement. I couldn't tell you which one it is. Directly above the room is the upstairs family room, which we're pretty much never in.

What else do you need to know?


From the sound of it you'll need to run the wires above the room, between the ceiling and the 1st floor, which in that situation can be a real pain... just depends on your house though.

Are you wanting to do an hdtv projector or a regular one?

you'll need to run your rear speaker wires, atleast 3 RG6 (i'd do 5 for future use) for the projector, you'll need a power outlet right there by the projector, and i'd run a cat5 to the projector as well for future use.

how big do you think you want the screen? the screen size and how much throw room there is for the projector can make a big difference in a projector choice.

I'd sit in the room where your going to put the seats and figure out how big of a screen you can have up there without having to turn your head to see the whole thing. In other words, you can look straight on and see the entire screen.

I was thinking about that too, it wouldn't be bad at all to route the cables between the basement and first floor, theres a good two foot gap.

HDTV for sure.

The screen size, well, whatevers comfortable for viewing around 12 feet away. I have no idea. The wall is 10' long and 10' high, so...
 
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: nsafreak
Well I'd like to have info like Excelsior as to whether or not the budget is for everything or just the audio stuff. I guess I can recommend a few things for starters:

Receiver: Harman Kardon AVR-635 or Denon AVR-3806
Speakers: Hard to say without seeing the acoustical properties of your basement which would be best. Brand name wise I would recommend Nohr, Paradigm, Infinity, Wilson Audio or Anthem.
Subwoofer: Same brands as above sited for speakers with the addition of SVS.

That'll have to do for specific recommendations until we firm up on the budget.

I try to stay out of HT threads, but don't talk out of your ass...Wilson Audio? With that budget? And Anthem speakers? Wrong category. Stop naming names just to sound like you're being helpful.

I wouldn't even bother with the specifics until more is known about your tastes and whatnot...some people here can offer good advice, but AVS definitely will be more helpful. and confusing 😉


Ok I shouldn't have put Wilson Audio up as an option as yes they are way out of his budget range. I meant to put the Anthem brand as another option in the receiver category, my bad on that one.
 
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
I've got A LOT of high end audio stuff i'm trying to get rid of, full jbl synthesis setup, hdtv switches, just about anything you could want. have a lot of high end wiring in bulk too if you need some....pm me if interested and let me know what you need.

edit: and if you have any questions about the HT installation, feel free to ask, used to install $50k home theaters on a daily basis.

Very nice, Synthesis rocks. 😀 I'd kill for a few K2 S9800.
 
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
I've got A LOT of high end audio stuff i'm trying to get rid of, full jbl synthesis setup, hdtv switches, just about anything you could want. have a lot of high end wiring in bulk too if you need some....pm me if interested and let me know what you need.

edit: and if you have any questions about the HT installation, feel free to ask, used to install $50k home theaters on a daily basis.

Thanks man, once I figure out what I'm getting, and start the work, I'll def. contact you.
 
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
Absolutely not. Buying a professionally designed speaker/sub would be the best way to go.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 😛
 
You planning on putting the screen on the wall where the piano is, or the opposite wall?
I would not even think about building your own speakers, there good if you want something loud, but as far as quality of sound goes, a mid-high end speaker is going to sound better than something you could build yourself without spending a massive amount of time doing it.

The projector you mentioned above should work for the room, but keep in mind with projectors, the more money you spend, the better its going to look. I would maybe think about going for a better projector, thats a pretty small room and your not going to need much power to make it sound nice.

As for a receiver....a denon would work fine for your room, I personally think their products have gone down hill some lately though, they seem to be making their stuff cheaper, using more plastic etc. harman/kardon's new stuff is nice and what I would go for in your situation. the avr- 240 is a nice 7.1 receiver. i recently installed some of their new stuff in a friends place and really liked it, msrp for the 240 is 599 i think.

as far as speakers go....are you wanting floor standing, mount them on the walls, put them on stands or what?

for the screen i'd check into prices for a vutec or stewart screen. (a lot of times you can get decent deals on a projector/screen together, check into it if you can)

 
If you want an inexpensive screen, but damn good IMHO, I use it on my Panny AE700U, go with Parkland Plastics polywall, you can get an 8x4 sheet that is 7 inches off (too long) from bieng the 16x9 aspect ratio you'll want. I have a diagonal of 102inch (yours maybe 98" due to HDMI overscan problem with the AE700, I can get a few more inches out of mine). Build your own HTPC obviously, but you might want to wait till the last minute to do this due to the fact that Vista will support cable card, allowing you to get digital HDTV, and cable. Also by that time, the panasonic AE1100??? will be out, and will lower the cost of the projector.

PICS of Screen
BigscreenHD.jpg
BigscreenHD2.jpg
BigscreenHD3.jpg

EDIT: you dont have to mount it as crappily as I did.
 
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
You planning on putting the screen on the wall where the piano is, or the opposite wall?
I would not even think about building your own speakers, there good if you want something loud, but as far as quality of sound goes, a mid-high end speaker is going to sound better than something you could build yourself without spending a massive amount of time doing it.

The projector you mentioned above should work for the room, but keep in mind with projectors, the more money you spend, the better its going to look. I would maybe think about going for a better projector, thats a pretty small room and your not going to need much power to make it sound nice.

As for a receiver....a denon would work fine for your room, I personally think their products have gone down hill some lately though, they seem to be making their stuff cheaper, using more plastic etc. harman/kardon's new stuff is nice and what I would go for in your situation. the avr- 240 is a nice 7.1 receiver. i recently installed some of their new stuff in a friends place and really liked it, msrp for the 240 is 599 i think.

as far as speakers go....are you wanting floor standing, mount them on the walls, put them on stands or what?

for the screen i'd check into prices for a vutec or stewart screen. (a lot of times you can get decent deals on a projector/screen together, check into it if you can)

The piano will be gone, but it will be on the opposite wall of where the piano is now.

Any projector reccomendations?

For the speakers, I like the idea of having them mounted on the walls, but if speakers that are wall-mountable aren't as good, stands/floor standing are fine too.
 
Originally posted by: Bolvangar
The projector you mentioned above should work for the room, but keep in mind with projectors, the more money you spend, the better its going to look.

WTF? Who told you that?
 
Originally posted by: Quasmo
If you want an inexpensive screen, but damn good IMHO, I use it on my Panny AE700U, go with Parkland Plastics polywall, you can get an 8x4 sheet that is 7 inches off (too long) from bieng the 16x9 aspect ratio you'll want. I have a diagonal of 102inch (yours maybe 98" due to HDMI overscan problem with the AE700, I can get a few more inches out of mine). Build your own HTPC obviously, but you might want to wait till the last minute to do this due to the fact that Vista will support cable card, allowing you to get digital HDTV, and cable. Also by that time, the panasonic AE1100??? will be out, and will lower the cost of the projector.

PICS of Screen
BigscreenHD.jpg
BigscreenHD2.jpg
BigscreenHD3.jpg

EDIT: you dont have to mount it as crappily as I did.

Damn, that looks amazing. Gave me more incentive to get this project going. Thanks!
 
My room demensions are about the same as yours as well. I have a 13x10 room, projecting across the 13 foot space. I'm currently using my Logitech z680s for speakers, and they do "alright" the digital decoder is nice because I have Dolby Digital Live on my soundcard. I just wish I could calibrate it more accurately.
 
Originally posted by: Quasmo
My room demensions are about the same as yours as well. I have a 13x10 room, projecting across the 13 foot space. I'm currently using my Logitech z680s for speakers, and they do "alright" the digital decoder is nice because I have Dolby Digital Live on my soundcard. I just wish I could calibrate it more accurately.

Glad to hear our rooms are similar too...is that mounted from the ceiling or from a table?
 
Originally posted by: SLCentral
Originally posted by: Quasmo
My room demensions are about the same as yours as well. I have a 13x10 room, projecting across the 13 foot space. I'm currently using my Logitech z680s for speakers, and they do "alright" the digital decoder is nice because I have Dolby Digital Live on my soundcard. I just wish I could calibrate it more accurately.

Glad to hear our rooms are similar too...is that mounted from the ceiling or from a table?

It sits behind my couch on a bookshelf (on one of the shelfs)
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
Absolutely not. Buying a professionally designed speaker/sub would be the best way to go.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 😛
hehehehe

NanoStuff just lost all of my credibility.
 
I do, however, love reading these threads on AT. Very amusing 😀

OP, feel free to PM me as well with any questions...good luck with everything and take your tiiiiiiiiime.
 
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
Absolutely not. Buying a professionally designed speaker/sub would be the best way to go.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 😛
You obviously have no idea what goes into properly designing a speaker.

Originally posted by: Howard

NanoStuff just lost all of my credibility.

Oh no, my credibility has been lost to some guy... tragedy.
 
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
Absolutely not. Buying a professionally designed speaker/sub would be the best way to go.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 😛
You obviously have no idea what goes into properly designing a speaker.
Oh, please. Don't bullshit us. Maybe he can't build a great speaker from scratch - or maybe he can. Regardless, much of the mass market equipment is trash.
Originally posted by: Howard

NanoStuff just lost all of my credibility.

Oh no, my credibility has been lost to some guy... tragedy.
I didn't expect you to care, but I thought it was fair to let you know.
 
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Originally posted by: NanoStuff
Originally posted by: Excelsior
I forgot to mention it...but if you are not against building some of the speakers or sub(s) yourself, then that would be the best way to go.
Absolutely not. Buying a professionally designed speaker/sub would be the best way to go.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. 😛
You obviously have no idea what goes into properly designing a speaker.

Originally posted by: Howard

NanoStuff just lost all of my credibility.

Oh no, my credibility has been lost to some guy... tragedy.

Look, you don't have a clue. It's cool, most people do not know the truth.

There are excellent speaker designers out there that do not work for a company, who actually freely share their designs. Some of these guys have over 30 years of experience with designing/building speakers. They have all of the necessary measuring equipment and skills to design some excellent speakers.

So instead of putting money towards a company, you can *gasp* put it towards most excellent drivers and crossover components. In the end, you have a speaker that bests commercial offerings at 3x the cost.

I don't care if you don't ever want to build your own, but don't act like a fool and put DIY down.

Edit: Forgot to mention, building a sub is even easier. It is not hard to build a $600 sub that destroys even most SVS offerings.
 
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