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Looking for the best in watercooling

I'd go with a D-Tek FuZion or Swiftech Apogee GT.

They seem to be turning in the best results with Quad Cores.
If you're not using a Quad Core today, you could future proof yourself with the above.
The new Apogee GTX uses aluminum so I'd steer clear.
 
Originally posted by: iscsidude
I'd go with a D-Tek FuZion or Swiftech Apogee GT... The new Apogee GTX uses aluminum so I'd steer clear.
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Heh! Different strokes...

I'd go with a Innovatek G-Flow, for exactly the opposite reason! 😀
 
hmmmm the best is different for different needs.

What layout are you aiming for? Silence? or Performance? or a mix of both?

The given best:

Best Pump: Laing DDC-2 with petra top mod. <-- i say best due to size/performance. If you can fit a IWAKI class pump. Then thats a better solution, but you best have a big case if you want to keep it internal.

Best Rad: Thermochill PA120.3 or 120.2 if you cant fit the larger.

Best Block: This is where it gets tricky. If your going to use a LOW flow layout, with single pump, something in the D4/D5 AquaExtreme or DDC-1, i recomend the ApogeeGT or Dtek Fusion. Hands down the best blocks for low flow loops.

If your going dual pumps, or single block high flow = this is the performance setup. I would push a impingment block. Something along the lines of a Storm rev.2 These blocks cool better then the uper tier listed if you have strong head pressure. Another alternative would be the D-tek fusion with accelerators. I hear the ApogeeGTX also performs better with higher flow. Im actually looking on getting this block as i have found it for 60 dollars. 😛

IF your dropping it on a QuadCore dual die layout. IE QX series, ApogeeGTX, will cool the best since it comes with the moded O-ring. Its an option thats supplied with the block.



However the best CPU Block hands down, and no one can argue with me on this, would be cathars G4. Good luck getting a hold of this, as it costs well over 300 dollars, is made of pure silver, and there extremely hard to come by.
 
Originally posted by: iscsidude
Here's a good review:
Fluid XP 😀
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Marci says it best... 😉
Originally posted by: Marci
Zerex Racing Super Coolant acts as a biocide only in that it has a coincidental side effect of shifting the coolant's pH to a point that is unsuitable for most biological growth and thus prevents it. It isn't a "designed" feature of that particular additive.

Think - people are seeing sludge with everything... from plain water thru to water with additives thru to non conductives. People ARE flushing and cleaning radiators before use and still getting issues. People are using no mixed metals and having issues. The source may be (or is) elsewhere in the system. What else is in contact with the coolant?
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Originally posted by: iscsidude
I was kind of partial to FragTek's response:

"Here's a little review we did on FluidXP, results not quite as good as straight water...."

Overclock3D.net review of Fluid XP
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If you'll pardon the pun, I'm, getting mixed messages here...
If you're thinking of venturing into the water cooling scene for the first time but are worried about the risks involved, then Fluid XP+ could well be the answer to your problems. As the video shows, powered components submerged in Fluid XP+ are fully capable of working again after being given time to dry. Protection that you wouldn't normally get with de-ionised water or other conductive solutions.

In addition to this, Fluid XP+ also has very similar thermal performance to untreated water, making it a great candidate for those of us who want the improved temperatures associated with plain water but without the algae and corrosion.
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This is exactly opposite of what those other guys were saying (except for Marci)...

Personally, I think those guys have organisms growing in their loops that [1] flushing isn't getting rid of, and [2] Fluid XP+ isn't killing.

LoL! Zerex Racing Super Coolant is looking better all the time... 😉
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
hmmmm the best is different for different needs.

What layout are you aiming for? Silence? or Performance? or a mix of both?

The given best:

Best Pump: Laing DDC-2 with petra top mod. <-- i say best due to size/performance. If you can fit a IWAKI class pump. Then thats a better solution, but you best have a big case if you want to keep it internal.

Best Rad: Thermochill PA120.3 or 120.2 if you cant fit the larger.

Best Block: This is where it gets tricky. If your going to use a LOW flow layout, with single pump, something in the D4/D5 AquaExtreme or DDC-1, i recomend the ApogeeGT or Dtek Fusion. Hands down the best blocks for low flow loops.

If your going dual pumps, or single block high flow = this is the performance setup. I would push a impingment block. Something along the lines of a Storm rev.2 These blocks cool better then the uper tier listed if you have strong head pressure. Another alternative would be the D-tek fusion with accelerators. I hear the ApogeeGTX also performs better with higher flow. Im actually looking on getting this block as i have found it for 60 dollars. 😛
IF your dropping it on a QuadCore dual die layout. IE QX series, ApogeeGTX, will cool the best since it comes with the moded O-ring. Its an option thats supplied with the block.



However the best CPU Block hands down, and no one can argue with me on this, would be cathars G4. Good luck getting a hold of this, as it costs well over 300 dollars, is made of pure silver, and there extremely hard to come by.
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buyer beware this block has Aluminum with anodized aluminum coating..yes it should be ok..but there was a person who bought a previous block from swiftech..same thing..Al with nickel coated to prevent mixing metals..guess what after about yr he was cleaning his setup and there was significant corrison as the coating came off

I personally do not care how good the Apogee GTX is is made of Al...I would never buy it

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136333&page=2
look at post 39...I will never go near a Apogee GTX(note the block that had anodized aluminum was a swiftech block..sorry they blew it on this issue for me)

the key is read Marci's posts
It appears the D-tek fuzion Apogee GT work well even in a high flow setup from what people are reporting at XS..slightly better than the discontinued Storm rev2....the problem is mounting these blocks can warp the mobos and neither comes with a backplate...you can buy some solutions

Personally I like the D-tek becasue of metal barbs ..easier to get tubing on them vs plastic crap from swiftech(I did buy ek and DD high flow barbs for my storm and mcw60)

IMHO the best buy on block is D-tek fuzion for both dual core and quad cores..Apogee GT with the thicker O-ring is a very close second..splitting hairs maybe

Buy the best rad and pump you can get as well....rad is so important ofr cooling....
 
OH GOWD PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT GET FUILD XP!!!!


IM VERY FIRM ON THIS STATEMENT THAT IM EVEN TYPING IN CAPS.



WHY do i hate it so much? Because when most reviews were written on the product, the coolant was not allowed to stay in the loop of the test system for longer then serveral hours, or serveral days.

What all reviews do not care to mention is that, if you allow fuild xp to sit in your loop for about 1-2 months, it will start forming a waxy deposit on your internal blocks, as well as interal tubings. It looks EXTREMELY bad later on, and you need to flush your system serveral times to get rid of the waxy residue.

This is not something one should be required to do every flush. STAY AWAY FROM FLUID XP. READ MY STICKY ON COOLANT. Is it that HARD to read the coolant section where i recomend the best????

If your really insistant on getting an aftermarket coolant, get PROMOCHILL's PC ICE. HANDS down the best aftermarket coolant i have ever worked with.


Edit: Neal, i thought the GTX was nickle plated on the inside to help prevent corrosion? I havent seen a single block yet, thats nickle or gold plated that had issues with this. Look at the Zalman lucite top block. Its horrible in performance, however it never had a problem with corrosion. its copper base with gold plating btw.


Also yeah, fluid xp will give you better protection against DE_IONIZED. H2O yet, how many times did i say in my sticky, Distilled means Distilled, not (de-ionized or Purified usually implies some sort of RO, reverse osmosis) was used.

Unless your in a biotech building and have access to a nanopure deionzier, i would not recomend any RO unit over a 1 gallon bottle of Distilled. ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE.

Get the water right the first time with coolant, and you got Non Conductive Fluid.

The BEST COOLANT. HANDS DOWN STRAIGHT UP!

My favorate Aftermarket Coolant.
 
Originally posted by: trOver
So the D-tek Fusion is an all around good choice? Best bang-for-buck?

Need more on pumps though...
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gah.. once again.. are you single pumping? or dual pumping? or single super pumping?

Single regular pump = dtek fusion apogeeGT

Dual pump = swiftech storm rev.2 will still pwn these suckers at higher flow. And its only 60 dollars at jab-tech
 
Originally posted by: aigomorla
Originally posted by: trOver
So the D-tek Fusion is an all around good choice? Best bang-for-buck?

Need more on pumps though...
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gah.. once again.. are you single pumping? or dual pumping? or single super pumping?

Single regular pump = dtek fusion apogeeGT

Dual pump = swiftech storm rev.2 will still pwn these suckers at higher flow. And its only 60 dollars at jab-tech
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Well now idk! All these options...

I want the best cooling w/ the best appearal and bragging rights. I assume a 1 pump system will be fine for just a cpu?

I like the look of the dtek fuzion, so I would probably get this.


So, d-tek fuzion + (pump) + thermochill rad? + (res)

1. Heard the D5 (what is this???) is a good pump?

2. Is that rad good? (will it work w/ the copper block?)

3. Do res even matter much?

4. What size tubes?
 
d-tek fusion

DDC-2 with petratop <--- www.petrastechshop.com

thermochill pa 120.2 if you have a full tower case or 120.3 if you can fit it

swiftech micro res.

EK 8800 full block

t-line b4 the pump.


Additions:

seconod DDC-2 pump

120.1 radiator out rear to push video cards

North bridge / south bridge if your running a 680i






*you will be able to pwn and have bragging rights with this setup*
 
bump ygpm ag,

Where is the best place to buy all this stuff? I noticed that you cant get it all at one location to save on shipping, drat

Who has the best prices for each part?
 
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