looking for some suggestions on how to mount my rear speakers...

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Anubis

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being slightly off center should not matter, any difference should be taken care of by the EQing

no i have not picked up a T8 but ive seen the 12s and Cat8'Cs which are about the same size. I actually think my Fusion10s weigh more.

anyway you could simply not wall mount and get a floor stands like other suggested, its the easiest route + you can screw it to the wall so it wont fall over.

I use bar stools as my rear stands. they are perfect and like 500$ cheaper vs "speaker stands" that can hold a 80 lb 15"x15"x25" speaker
 

purbeast0

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yeah i was thinking a stand to put them on but i'd rather put them on the wall, specifically because of the one that is on the right side because it will have to be placed based on how far that chair reclines and i didn't want to worry about that.

but yea they are pretty damn big speakers in general. pretty sure they are like around 48lbs or so. the mount i am getting is about 13lbs or so. im just nervous about them dangling off the drywall. but again, never done something like this so i'm a noob to this and may be totally over thinking it.
 

purbeast0

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so i got another question...

i got my mounts today. i plan on mounting them slightly behind the seating area on a stud. it's literally like a foot or 2 behind the seating area on the side walls, pointed at the seating area.

if i mount them vertical, when i have my chair in a reclined position like i do when watching movies, i will not have a direct line of sight to the speaker, only the top driver. i can fix this by reclining the seat next to me though.

if i mount them horizontal i can get it up the wall more, so i will have a cleaner line of sight to my ears, however i know the recommended way is vertical due to dispersion patterns.

will the chair blocking a direct line of sight to me actually be a pretty noticeable difference? like i said, i can simply recline a chair next to me when no one is in it to get the direct line of sight. but i'm just wondering in general, for a surround, if that would make a huge difference.

i do plan on mounting vertically at this point though.
 

sdifox

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so i got another question...

i got my mounts today. i plan on mounting them slightly behind the seating area on a stud. it's literally like a foot or 2 behind the seating area on the side walls, pointed at the seating area.

if i mount them vertical, when i have my chair in a reclined position like i do when watching movies, i will not have a direct line of sight to the speaker, only the top driver. i can fix this by reclining the seat next to me though.

if i mount them horizontal i can get it up the wall more, so i will have a cleaner line of sight to my ears, however i know the recommended way is vertical due to dispersion patterns.

will the chair blocking a direct line of sight to me actually be a pretty noticeable difference? like i said, i can simply recline a chair next to me when no one is in it to get the direct line of sight. but i'm just wondering in general, for a surround, if that would make a huge difference.

i do plan on mounting vertically at this point though.

Unless you are going for hd surround music, the surround speakers should not be aimed directly at your ears. Their purpose is to provide ambient sounds .
 

purbeast0

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Unless you are going for hd surround music, the surround speakers should not be aimed directly at your ears. Their purpose is to provide ambient sounds .

they aren't going to be angled directly or pointed at the seating area, but they will still have a different line of sight to the seating area based on being placed horizontal or vertical. i can angle them down a bit with the mount i got, if i wanted to.

i'm not saying you are right or wrong, but how could speakers being pointed directly at the seating area be worse than having them pointing in a different direction? i don't see why that still wouldn't give you the ambient surround sound.
 

olds

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i'm not saying you are right or wrong, but how could speakers being pointed directly at the seating area be worse than having them pointing in a different direction? i don't see why that still wouldn't give you the ambient surround sound.
He is absolutely correct.

TBH, I couldn't decipher exactly what it is you are trying to do. It looks as though you may be assuming that you have to attach the speaker to a stud. While that may be the best way, it's not the only way. Hollow wall anchors work too.

When I mounted a pair in my old house, I pulled the driver and used that opening in the box to screw/attach the speakers to the wall. Put the driver back in and you have a clean install (wire were run up the wall and came out behind the speakers).

While I was out of town one time, the wife wanted to surprise me and had the interior of our house painted so I wouldn't have to do it. The painter couldn't figure out how I mounted the speakers and had to paint around them. :biggrin:
 

purbeast0

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He is absolutely correct.

TBH, I couldn't decipher exactly what it is you are trying to do. It looks as though you may be assuming that you have to attach the speaker to a stud. While that may be the best way, it's not the only way. Hollow wall anchors work too.

When I mounted a pair in my old house, I pulled the driver and used that opening in the box to screw/attach the speakers to the wall. Put the driver back in and you have a clean install (wire were run up the wall and came out behind the speakers).

While I was out of town one time, the wife wanted to surprise me and had the interior of our house painted so I wouldn't have to do it. The painter couldn't figure out how I mounted the speakers and had to paint around them. :biggrin:

why is he correct though, that is what i was wondering. i don't understand how speakers pointed in your direction can sound worse than the speakers being aimed over your head.

and i'm definitely mounting them to a stud. its nearly 65lbs from the mount which has a down and out force on it and will be held by 3 screws. i don't trust it in drywall. call me paranoid or whatever but i just don't trust it.

i'm basically just wondering how important a direct line of sight to the surround speakers are, because the chairs in my seating area block the view of the speakers partially when i'm reclined in my seat. but again, this can be avoided by me reclining the chairs not in use while i'm watching something if it makes that much of a difference.
 
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olds

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Ah.
It's called Surround Sound. You are supposed to be surrounded by sound. If you point the rear speakers at the listener, they can pin point the sound and it loses the surround effect.
 

purbeast0

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Ah.
It's called Surround Sound. You are supposed to be surrounded by sound. If you point the rear speakers at the listener, they can pin point the sound and it loses the surround effect.

but it's still being dispersed properly by the speaker and will still be surrounding you.

the dolby recommendation looks like it should be pointed at the viewer. now it does say that the sound should also be placed above the viewing position so not angled down.

http://www.dolby.com/us/en/consumer/setup/connection-guide/home-theater-speaker-guide/index.html

the angle i'm not really concerned about though because i can just test that out with different settings very easily. i plan to keep them flat initially and see how that sounds.

looks like the recommendation on thx site is the same.

http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/surround-sound-speaker-set-up/
 

olds

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Does your receiver do the room calibration for you? I am going to assume it does. When you place the microphone in the listening position and run it, it should set the proper delays and levels for the rears.
 

purbeast0

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Does your receiver do the room calibration for you? I am going to assume it does. When you place the microphone in the listening position and run it, it should set the proper delays and levels for the rears.

yup, it does and i know it will set it all up, i'm more wondering what is the ideal position i guess heh. i usually make tweaks to the level settings too because i like it louder than it calibrates it ta.
 

sdifox

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they aren't going to be angled directly or pointed at the seating area, but they will still have a different line of sight to the seating area based on being placed horizontal or vertical. i can angle them down a bit with the mount i got, if i wanted to.

i'm not saying you are right or wrong, but how could speakers being pointed directly at the seating area be worse than having them pointing in a different direction? i don't see why that still wouldn't give you the ambient surround sound.

if you are going to mount them to the side of the sofa, monopoles are not the best choices. If you are mounting them as back, then monopoles are fine. It has to do with where the sound is supposed to go.

your speakers are hefty, I would anchor against a stud for sure.
 
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purbeast0

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if you are going to mount them to the side of the sofa, monopoles are not the best choices. If you are mounting them as back, then monopoles are fine. It has to do with where the sound is supposed to go.

your speakers are hefty, I would anchor against a stud for sure.

no clue what "monopoles" means.
 

Howard

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what you have :biggrin:

monopole is when all the drivers are on the same side of the cabinet.
That's a unique way of describing it, but for surrounds it sure beats anything else I can come up with.