Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: T2k
Well, as I said I'm still debating Reserator 1= and Symphony... those are masssive enough, right?
I just skimmed a review of the Symphony, and for a TT product I have to admit that I'm impressed. The temps reported in the review were on the high side and don't, IMO, qualify as high-perf, but they're pretty good. If quiet is your goal, the Symphony may be what you're looking for.
Don't say this now... I'm getting close to favor the custom-made approach...
Thx - I'm aiming 3Ghz with the new one...
It's over 20C but it's very small, closed backroom (door to the backyard) with no A/C yet, so whatever comes out of the case/WC, it stays in the room when it's nice out there...
Wow! Nice job. Sounds like you should be running an overclockers clinic.
Let's wait a bit: it's a new apt, my first Summer is just approaching...
I see, thanks. So custom is the way... hmm...
Perhaps.
Ah, it's clear now, thanks. How about getting some big radiator - presumably a bit ruther away from the machine - and putting one of those 250mm at, say 800RPM?
BTW where can I get some *big* radiator?
This is a good place. Try
http://www.thermochill.com/">this</a> place to learn about the best OEM rads on the market. From what I understand, the PA series is sterling.
What I'm thinking about is some automotive part w/ a 200-250mm fan at ~600RPM - is this totally crazy or just a question of time and energy?
I'm also toying with the idea
Yeah, I see what do you mean... it seems I have to invest more time into this prject.
But it'll be fun, I'm sure - and saving some money isn't the last thing to do either.
As projects go, I find designing and implementing a water-cooler very rewarding. As for expense, well, it MAY not be cheap. It depends on what you want and how you want it to look.
Sure. In my case I have some flat and fairly large Ikea desk (the suspiciously-named Jerker or whatever its name), so I can hide everything...
So let me collect what I want to build: CPU and chipset for now (and probably the VPU later but I'm not sure about this one yet.)
If you're going to include a GPU block I'd suggest doing so right at first. Shoe-horning one in later creates its own problems.
You're right, of course. Even if I don't apply it, it can be there, in the loop already.
Since I have no idea what kind of case I'll buy, I'd try to get a radiator I can put away from the case (ie on the floor under the desk, that's the coolest point anyway). Problem: If I do this, I'd either has to go with passive radiator or take care of its fan's power... hmm...
Case metrics for a water-cooler are very important. I went the chicken route and bought mine from a place that cut the case to my spcifications before I even saw it. The Symphony is starting to look better and better for your application.
Dunno, I'm having problem finding a good midi case... I want not only tool-less but specifically latch-based card slots, an easily accessible side panel like the TT Tai-Chi has (it opens
towards, not
from the back), no cover plate or opens from the side panel's edge, front or side-panel-edge I/O ports (no top or other sided edge ones) - these are my basic needs. I'd prefer a see-thru side panel but it's not that important, just like multi-thermal zoning would be nice but not a dealbreaker if it isn't there... same goes for future BTX compatibility.
I like a lot of cases but none of them would make me perfectly happy...
Clean design w/ advanced new features - that's what I prefer.
The closest contender is Temjin 7 (TJ07) from Silverstone... damn those rivets!
I
hate anything else than latches - I'm the big fan of our HP xw8/9000-family workstations, they have an *EXCELLENT* enclosure (well, xw8000s front I/O cover sux but that's gone since xw9300s)... I'm trying to get one case from HP (for a human p[rice, of course).
Q1: recently I read about dual-pump setups - what's the deal with this?
The reason for using a dual-pump configuration in my case was twofold:
1. I use one of the most restrictive CPU blocks (a
review of it here) currently on the market and wanted to make sure it wasn't starved for pressure.
2. Since I have a 3-block loop, a hefty rad and a fair amount of tube, two pumps (in series) provides enough flow to keep things moving at a brisk pace.
Beyond these I wanted an in-case solution.
Dunno, maybe it's just me but I think when you do have the option to take
the heat out of your case easily it's kinda weird not to do it and cool it outside, (unless you're short on space, oif course.)
Another crazy thing I'm toying with: how about oil cooling? I mean not submersing but using oil as coolant: oil pump with an automotive radiator I mentioned above? Is it very noisy?
Q2: thick pipe or thin pipe - does it matter (apart from the fact that water flows faster in a thin one)?
You mean internal diameter of the tubing? Well, the jury is still out on that one. In general, larger ID has better laminar flow (the "sweet spot" right down the middle of the tube) which allows for better coolant velocity. This helps a lot with impingment-style blocks. If, however, a block is designed for low-velocity operation, you can easily go with smalled ID tubing, though I wouldn't consider anything smaller than 3/8 inch ID. Thinner tubing is also a bit easier to plumb.
I see, thanks. In case of a "thick" tube you may can spare the reservoir if the tubing is long enough, right?
Another question: I read a lot about that Swiftech Peltier-based WC block and sounds interesting... how much would this Peltier help?
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