Looking for memory recomendations for IC7-G/IC7-Max3?

[mjs22]

Thinking about picking up an Abit IC7-G...what memory should I get for this board?

I thought that maybe some more information was needed...

I am going to overclock. I have a 2.4C that I hope to push tword 3GHz.....

 

[fredtam]

I'm having trouble with my Hyperx3200. Thinking about changing to Corsair.

 

[mjs22]

Still looking for those running this board with the 2.4C to see what ram you are running and what speeds you are getting with said ram.

 

[stevennoland]

mjs22, if you havn't purchased the mobo yet, I would wait for the IC7-MAX3 (if you have the fundage). This board looks to be the cat's meow.

 

[mjs22]

OK...what memory would I get for the IC7-MAX3 one if I want to OC the hell out of my 2.4C?

 

[orion7144]

Originally posted by: mjs22
OK...what memory would I get for the IC7-MAX3 one if I want to OC the hell out of my 2.4C?

The OCZ Gold stuff specifically the PC3700. I have the IC7-G MAX2 and am running at 275 1:1 with my 2.4C. If money is a concern then I would recomend the OCZ PC3500EL just make sure it is the EL (Enhanced latency) and that it is a Dual kit. I had trouble with Kingston. But the OCZ has been good to me. No need to wait for the ovepriced MAX 3 either. They both use a BIOS that is similar.

 

[mjs22]

...does anyone else have any memory suggestions?

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

Originally posted by: orion7144

Originally posted by: mjs22
OK...what memory would I get for the IC7-MAX3 one if I want to OC the hell out of my 2.4C?

The OCZ Gold stuff specifically the PC3700. I have the IC7-G MAX2 and am running at 275 1:1 with my 2.4C. If money is a concern then I would recomend the OCZ PC3500EL just make sure it is the EL (Enhanced latency) and that it is a Dual kit. I had trouble with Kingston. But the OCZ has been good to me. No need to wait for the ovepriced MAX 3 either. They both use a BIOS that is similar.

Yes, but the MAX3 has otes and I heard it will drop temps alot lower when overclocking

 

[NicColt]

from the looks of it you won't be able to put a zalman on it either. I'm just guessing.....

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

Originally posted by: NicColt
from the looks of it you won't be able to put a zalman on it either. I'm just guessing.....

is a zalman good for keeping it cool...whats a good heatsink to cool OCs?

 

[JackBurton]

I would recommend OCZ EL DDR 1024MB (2x 512MB) PC-4000 . Newegg sells the memory kit for $380, but if you want to play, you gotta pay. Seriously, if I were getting a Max3 board, I'd get the PC4000 1024MB kit, no questions asked.

 

[oldfart]

$380 is an insane price for 1G of ram. I'd go for Corsair XMS for much less. There is also Buffalo Tech PC3700 @ Newegg for $100 a 512M stick. It is Winbond BH5 based which is generally very good. Not sure how it is, but the price is right.

People are getting too hung up on the big $$ ram. The performance difference is tiny. This includes 1:1 Vs 5:4 and fast and slow timings. You are talking about maybe 1 - 2% here in actual system performance. CPU speed is what you need to worry about, not memory.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

Originally posted by: oldfart
$380 is an insane price for 1G of ram. I'd go for Corsair XMS for much less. There is also Buffalo Tech PC3700 @ Newegg for $100 a 512M stick. It is Winbond BH5 based which is generally very good. Not sure how it is, but the price is right.

People are getting too hung up on the big $$ ram. The performance difference is tiny. This includes 1:1 Vs 5:4 and fast and slow timings. You are talking about maybe 1 - 2% here in actual system performance. CPU speed is what you need to worry about, not memory.

can you tell me the benefits of 1:1 over 5:4?

 

[oldfart]

There really aren't any. It's been a very misunderstood topic. Running 1:1 usually means @ a higher latency. 5:4 can be typically run @ a lower latency. Its higher speed, slower timings VS lower speed faster timings. In the end, its about the same. Neither have that much effect on actual system performance. CPU speed is what really matters. Mem BW is not that big a deal anymore.

 

[JackBurton]

I agree oldfart, $380 is not cheap but I like to get every ounce of performance out of my machine when I build something that is going to be my main machine. The $100 sticks you recommend MIGHT be good, and they also may not. I don't want to spend $200 (512MB X 2) and it not perform at the level I expected it to. I'd rather spend $380 and know what my memory can do. To each his own, but I likey the EL PC4000.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I agree oldfart, $380 is not cheap but I like to get every ounce of performance out of my machine when I build something that is going to be my main machine. The $100 sticks you recommend MIGHT be good, and they also may not. I don't want to spend $200 (512MB X 2) and it not perform at the level I expected it to. I'd rather spend $380 and know what my memory can do. To each his own, but I likey the EL PC4000.

OK, but wouldn't getting EVERY ounce of performance require TOO much cooling? If thats the case i just want to reach a 250FSB,at maybe 3.0+ speeds... I want to have a decent OC that does'nt demand so much cooling where i have to shell out like 200$ for it... oldfart i understand what you mean with 1:1 VS 5:4, but isn't there something that 1:1 provides that 5:4 doesn't, ex. features etc? if there isn't any then i don't see any reason to run 1:1 if u can have all that goodness in 5:4 and save money on ram

 

[JackBurton]

OK, but wouldn't getting EVERY ounce of performance require TOO much cooling?

??? This or this is all you need. $200? How about $30-37.

*Just make sure your case has good airflow (at least one fan intake and one fan exhaust). Overclocking or not, your case should ALWAYS be well ventilated.

 

[oldfart]

Probably the most misunderstood part about building a P4 rig is the memory. The need for high end memory has been highly overstated. Fact is, the difference between the big $$ memory and reasonably priced stuff will have an actual system performance difference of ~ 1%, or even less. Spending all that $$ on high end ram is by far, the worst bang for the buck you can spend on your rig. The Memory mfgrs have done a good job of hyping this stuff up with big sounding numbers like PC4000!!, and use synthetic benches like SiSoft to show large gains. Fact is, these gains are also synthetic. In real world benches, they simply aren't there.

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

Originally posted by: oldfart
Probably the most misunderstood part about building a P4 rig is the memory. The need for high end memory has been highly overstated. Fact is, the difference between the big $$ memory and reasonably priced stuff will have an actual system performance difference of ~ 1%, or even less. Spending all that $$ on high end ram is by far, the worst bang for the buck you can spend on your rig. The Memory mfgrs have done a good job of hyping this stuff up with big sounding numbers like PC4000!!, and use synthetic benches like SiSoft to show large gains. Fact is, these gains are also synthetic. In real world benches, they simply aren't there.

yes, i have educated myself enough when it comes to best memory for the money when OC a P4, i am looking for good PC3500 ram i can't seem to find a good matched pair...i am aware of the corsair 3500 but i never find it in a dual kit...can someone help me out on that?

 

[ronnuke]

 

[ronnuke]

I happen to have just the setup you are referring to...(an IC7-Max3 and OCZ PC4000 Gold Edition 1024M (512X2)) I will be putting it all together on Monday or Tuesday and I will let you know if it is worth the extra $$$ or not. From what I have seen in some real world benches it should be spectacular. Wish me luck......

 

[SuPrEIVIE]

Originally posted by: ronnuke
I happen to have just the setup you are referring to...(an IC7-Max3 and OCZ PC4000 Gold Edition 1024M (512X2)) I will be putting it all together on Monday or Tuesday and I will let you know if it is worth the extra $$$ or not. From what I have seen in some real world benches it should be spectacular. Wish me luck......

thanks ronnuke,for the money that u spent i hope it turns out excellent will be waiting for results!

 

[tallman45]

Look into the Mushkin web site for PC3200 Promo build sticks, $139 for 512mb with Winbond BH-5 Cas 222

 

[NicColt]

ronnuke let us know of the cpu, heatsink, mem and settings you'll be using.

anyone know if someone installed a Zalman on this beast yet. I know that someone installed a Swiftech MC 4000

 

[ronnuke]

Originally posted by: NicColt
ronnuke let us know of the cpu, heatsink, mem and settings you'll be using.

anyone know if someone installed a Zalman on this beast yet. I know that someone installed a Swiftech MC 4000

Cpu: Malay L321 P4 2.4Ghz "C" with 800mhz FSB
Heatsink: Thermalright SLK-900U with 92mm Vantec Tornado 114 cfm or some ridiculously high cfm like that. (And yes indeed it DOES fit the IC7-Max3 touching the OTES shroud and the NB heatsink but not so much as to be a problem)
Memory settings to be determined but I will try most aggressive and work util unstable then relax until stable and then raise FSB more....etc. I have a feeling I will end up like most reviews I have seen of this RAM at 3.0,4,4,8 at 295FSB or higher 1:1 for a CPU overclock up to 3540Mhz...over 1.1 Ghz overclock. I have not assembled the system fully yet but the heatsink is on and the memory is in...just have to disassemble the system that currently occupies the case my new system will call home, and we will be in business...I will keep you informed.