Looking for help/advice with running training!

KeithTalent

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So I just finished my third 10k and I think I am ready to move on to bigger and better things. I signed up for a free running group (starts this Saturday at 8:00am), just so I stay motivated, but I am wondering if anyone here has any advice they can give for someone about to run their first 1/2 marathon with plans to do a full later this year.

Looking for advice, links, tips, tactics from those that have experience or even those who know someone who have experience.

Thanks in advance to everyone!

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Gah, the mods are messing with my head!! :p

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My SO runs 1/2 marathons all the time, which makes me ache just thinking about it. She just did one this past Saturday in about 2 hours which is pretty good, given she's not a 7 day a week trainer in the least. I know that for her, having someone from her running group to do races with her is a huge boost. When she has someone that runs at her same pace, she tends to do a lot better than when she's doing her own thing. Always easier when you have someone pushing you/to push. She runs every Saturday morning with her group which I'm guessing is similar to what you are going to be doing. And of course, she will only eat certain things the day before/morning of and gets plenty of rest.

Also check out: Runnersworld.com I know she's on that site a lot and that it has a ton of helpful info.

I just recently got into running so I'm one big stage behind you (prepping for my first ever 5K next month...lol) so my goal is a 10K for the immediate future. No where near ready to take on 1/2 marathon.

On a related note, at the 1/2 marathon she did Saturday, some guy crossed the finish line and had two huge blood stains on the front of his shirt. My girlfriend told me it was from nipple chafing and is very common for guys if they don't take precaution. It looked like it hurt like hell. :Q So, be sure to put on bandaids or something if you're going to be running for 13 miles.
 

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Originally posted by: 49erinnc
My SO runs 1/2 marathons all the time, which makes me ache just thinking about it. She just did one this past Saturday in about 2 hours which is pretty good, given she's not a 7 day a week trainer in the least. I know that for her, having someone from her running group to do races with her is a huge boost. When she has someone that runs at her same pace, she tends to do a lot better than when she's doing her own thing. Always easier when you have someone pushing you/to push. She runs every Saturday morning with her group which I'm guessing is similar to what you are going to be doing. And of course, she will only eat certain things the day before/morning of and gets plenty of rest.

Also check out: Runnersworld.com I know she's on that site a lot and that it has a ton of helpful info.

I just recently got into running so I'm one big stage behind you (prepping for my first ever 5K next month...lol) so my goal is a 10K for the immediate future. No where near ready to take on 1/2 marathon.

On a related note, at the 1/2 marathon she did Saturday, some guy crossed the finish line and had two huge blood stains on the front of his shirt. My girlfriend told me it was from nipple chafing and is very common for guys if they don't take precaution. It looked like it hurt like hell. :Q So, be sure to put on bandaids or something if you're going to be running for 13 miles.

Ugh, I almost threw up in my mouth a little after reading about the nipple chafing :shocked: I will definitely be careful with that!

Thanks very much for the information! It appears there is some good information on tht site, so I will definitely check it out.

I only have about two months to train for the 1/2 marathon, which I am hoping is enough. :D

Good luck with your 5k! Be warned though, running can be quite addictive! I used to just run small amounts, but after my first 10k I was hooked!

The only thing I am kind of annoyed with is the nutrition part. I know as I start to run more I will need to watch what foods I am eating more closely, but I really, really like food, so that can be quite tough for me! :p

Thanks again!

KT
 

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Jeff Galloway has trained hundreds of thousands of runners. He has a very authoritative book called Marathon. It's got some really good information on different training programs.

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Originally posted by: KC5AV
Jeff Galloway has trained hundreds of thousands of runners. He has a very authoritative book called Marathon. It's got some really good information on different training programs.

Linky

Damn, just placed an Amazon order this morning, I wonder if it is too late to tack that on for free shipping...

Looks great, thanks very much!

KT
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: KC5AV
Jeff Galloway has trained hundreds of thousands of runners. He has a very authoritative book called Marathon. It's got some really good information on different training programs.

Linky

Damn, just placed an Amazon order this morning, I wonder if it is too late to tack that on for free shipping...

Looks great, thanks very much!

KT
I read a different Galloway book, but I found it to be very helpful. One thing he stresses that's pretty important is that you really want to build strength in your quads before you start doing longer distances. This can help save your knees.

General advice for running longer distances:

Run one long slow distance (LSD) run every other week. Try to increase the length of this run by a mile or two each time until you're running your race distance or a little longer.

Do NOT run 7 days a week. Until you build some strength, you're better off doing 4-5 days per week. Unless you're Kenyan or something and grew up running 5 miles a day anyway.

Pay some attention to your stride. Lots of people overstride (like me) which pounds the joints pretty hard. Very few people have a stride thats too short. Try not to land on your heel.

Do not run fast going down hills.

A bunch more stuff to add, but I suspect your Galloway book will cover it in more detail.
 

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: KC5AV
Jeff Galloway has trained hundreds of thousands of runners. He has a very authoritative book called Marathon. It's got some really good information on different training programs.

Linky

Damn, just placed an Amazon order this morning, I wonder if it is too late to tack that on for free shipping...

Looks great, thanks very much!

KT
I read a different Galloway book, but I found it to be very helpful. One thing he stresses that's pretty important is that you really want to build strength in your quads before you start doing longer distances. This can help save your knees.

General advice for running longer distances:

Run one long slow distance (LSD) run every other week. Try to increase the length of this run by a mile or two each time until you're running your race distance or a little longer.

Do NOT run 7 days a week. Until you build some strength, you're better off doing 4-5 days per week. Unless you're Kenyan or something and grew up running 5 miles a day anyway.

Pay some attention to your stride. Lots of people overstride (like me) which pounds the joints pretty hard. Very few people have a stride thats too short. Try not to land on your heel.

Do not run fast going down hills.

A bunch more stuff to add, but I suspect your Galloway book will cover it in more detail.

Very good point about building strength in your quads. Do you think I actually need to do weight-training with my legs? I typically only do upper-body lifting as I feel my lower-body will just be fine with all of the running.

I am starting to think some lower-body weight-training may be a good idea, though I have no clue as to what exercises to do. :confused:

Another thing I never think about is my stride, but I will try and pay closer attention on my next run.

KT
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: KC5AV
Jeff Galloway has trained hundreds of thousands of runners. He has a very authoritative book called Marathon. It's got some really good information on different training programs.

Linky

Damn, just placed an Amazon order this morning, I wonder if it is too late to tack that on for free shipping...

Looks great, thanks very much!

KT
I read a different Galloway book, but I found it to be very helpful. One thing he stresses that's pretty important is that you really want to build strength in your quads before you start doing longer distances. This can help save your knees.

General advice for running longer distances:

Run one long slow distance (LSD) run every other week. Try to increase the length of this run by a mile or two each time until you're running your race distance or a little longer.

Do NOT run 7 days a week. Until you build some strength, you're better off doing 4-5 days per week. Unless you're Kenyan or something and grew up running 5 miles a day anyway.

Pay some attention to your stride. Lots of people overstride (like me) which pounds the joints pretty hard. Very few people have a stride thats too short. Try not to land on your heel.

Do not run fast going down hills.

A bunch more stuff to add, but I suspect your Galloway book will cover it in more detail.

Very good point about building strength in your quads. Do you think I actually need to do weight-training with my legs? I typically only do upper-body lifting as I feel my lower-body will just be fine with all of the running.

I am starting to think some lower-body weight-training may be a good idea, though I have no clue as to what exercises to do. :confused:

Another thing I never think about is my stride, but I will try and pay closer attention on my next run.

KT
Galloway recommends running up hills to build quad strength and form. Find a hill and run up/walk down it until you're really tired and your quads are burning and wobbly.

Also, running backwards will work them really hard too. But you have to get used to all the people staring at that weird guy running backwards. ;)

As for weights, I'm no expert, but I suppose squats are the way to go. As long as your technique is good and you aren't trying too much weight it's not going to hurt.
 

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Galloway recommends running up hills to build quad strength and form. Find a hill and run up/walk down it until you're really tired and your quads are burning and wobbly.

Also, running backwards will work them really hard too. But you have to get used to all the people staring at that weird guy running backwards. ;)

As for weights, I'm no expert, but I suppose squats are the way to go. As long as your technique is good and you aren't trying too much weight it's not going to hurt.

Good stuff, thank you. I have no problem with looking like a weirdo running backwards! :D I have some great hills and bridges near my place where I can do some training as well.

This is going to be fun! Hopefully the wife can keep up! :p

KT