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dud

dud

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"Seriously Awesome Doctor Shuts Down Boss Who Requires A Note For Sick Days"

"Staying home when you're sick is sensible and a common courtesy to your coworkers. This doctor gets it. Pizza Hut does not.

When an employee at an Alberta, Canada, location explained to his physician that company policy requires a doctor's note for sick days, this medical pro had the best response. After backing up his patient for doing the right thing, the doctor had no problem telling it like it is. "...you feel his time and mine should be wasted by making him sit in the walk-in clinic for hours and me spending time writing a sick note that I could be spending on people who genuinely need my attention," he wrote. Frosty. Then for the grand finale he dropped this sass bomb on them: "Please reconsider your policy on this—there are surely better ways of wasting your tax dollars."

The letter is now going viral (rightfully so) after the employee's friend posted it to Reddit. It's too bad the doctor's contact information is blurred out—I'd like to become a regular patient. No word yet on how the note went over with managers at the restaurant, but I'm willing to bet an order of toasted asiago flavor sticks that they're feeling the burn."


I have a family member that was actually "fired" ... i.e. told not to return to work at a Papa John's UNTIL they brought in a doctor's notice because they were sick and missed a shift. I try not to go to the doctor unless I really feel that I need to ... I simply go home and rest. So most people that work fast food are doing pretty well ... with health benefits and all that allows them to go to the doctor and pay $50 or more to save their "lucrative" career at Pizza Hut?

If not true, then these FF places have sick people making our "food" because they can't afford to go to the doctor to get a note so that they can stay home and get better?

Please tell me it's not true ...
 
dud said:
If not true, then these FF places have sick people making our "food" because they can't afford to go to the doctor to get a note so that they can stay home and get better?

Please tell me it's not true ...
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I don't really want to be a dick, but what rock had you been living under where this isn't the case? Fast food businesses require warm bodies and little else, so as long as you're breathing when you show up they don't care what you're like. They don't care what keeps you from showing up either, there are plenty of other breathing people out there that can do your job.

Hell, the Taco Bell in my old home town had (and probably still has) a password you could say in the drive through if you wanted to buy weed and possibly other stuff like meth. Also, at least one of their shift managers had three entire teeth.
 
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Don't eat at Papa Johns (I never do) nor Pizza Hut.

That's the only solution I see working to change these bozos behavior.
 
A lot of places have this policy. I ran into this a couple years ago at work: I was sick for like 3 days with a bad flu or something & HR called and said I had to bring in a doctor's note. Policy. So you basically have to pay $25 to get a note that says you're sick - not only pay the copay, but also waste your time getting it when you could be sleeping 😛
 
Ruptga said:
I don't really want to be a dick, but what rock had you been living under where this isn't the case? Fast food businesses require warm bodies and little else, so as long as you're breathing when you show up they don't care what you're like. They don't care what keeps you from showing up either, there are plenty of other breathing people out there that can do your job.
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You are not a dick ... you called me out pretty quick. Good form. Unless I am stuck in an airport terminal I hardly ever eat FF ... so I was ignorant. Just another reason to not give them my money.
 
I can see both sides of this. It is a huge waste of time to have to go sit in the clinic and pay to get a doctor's excuse, but from experience employees at the low wage jobs can be flaky and not show up for a myriad of reasons other than being sick.

I used to work at a restaurant (several) when I was younger and plenty of times myself and others would be "sick" because we were so hung over from the night before. I've seen people go on crack binges and be missing for several days. These low wage jobs are generally filled by young people, and many times I've seen them call in sick because they wanted to go out of town with their friends.

As a manager you need to have your full staff there so that everything goes smoothly, just part of running a business. People do lie - alot - and a manager needs to deal with that, and yeah that probably involves getting a doctor's excuse to prove you are legitimately sick and not hung over or at the beach.
 
dud said:
You are not a dick ... you called me out pretty quick. Good form. Unless I am stuck in an airport terminal I hardly ever eat FF ... so I was ignorant. Just another reason to not give them my money.
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Honestly, I didn't really know what it was like until I had the supreme honor of working for a McDonald's for several months, so I don't really hold it against people for not realizing. I mean, we all know about it, sortof, but it's usually not until you work there that you realize that basically every awful stereotype really is literally true.

UglyCasanova said:
As a manager you need to have your full staff there so that everything goes smoothly, just part of running a business. People do lie - alot - and a manager needs to deal with that, and yeah that probably involves getting a doctor's excuse to prove you are legitimately sick and not hung over or at the beach.
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There is that, but isn't it simpler to have a common pool of sick and regular days off that can be used whenever? Just mark it against that and when they go over they have to come in regardless. It saves the managers time hounding people, and it saves sick people trouble too. If they run out and have to work sick they'll probably learn quickly, and if they run out and have to work hungover they're going to get fired for that quickly, so it seems like it should all work out in the end. I really think these sick note rules are generally put in by upper management that doesn't have to deal with hounding people over notes, they just care about raw employee attendance numbers.
 
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My wife and daughter both have been working while sick with colds (daughter is currently at work with cold/sore throat as I write this) since their employer has the same 'note from a doctor' requirement to qualify for sick pay. No note, no pay. Even with the note, you don't get any sick pay for the first two days missed. Since it costs more to see the doc than miss some work, they work. As do the rest of the employees.

Management has actually had to push people to go to emergency because they were working when it was quite obvious they were very ill. Passing out at the cash register scares the customers and they can't have that. But as long as you are still breathing and moving, it's off to work with the public. My wife has worked there for over twenty years and has never taken a single paid sick day even though she has missed work a few times because she was too sick.

Remember this when you hit a retail big box store next time and one of the employees coughs as they are helping you.
 
Only employers that don't require notes are the ones with Human Resource departments at the employment site and monitor employees with an occurrence system. People in those positions often tread the line and take another day off when one of their old occurrences expires. Those people get fired when something legitimate happens and they get bumped over the occurrence limit. Often times, when all the occurrences appear legitimate, management will refuse to enforce it with a doctors note, other times they will enforce it to make an example (don't exploit the occurrence system for PTO personal days).
 
I always found the whole note thing stupid. Do you really want me to come in with a cold and make everyone sick? Because that's how you make me come in with a cold and make everyone sick. Easier for me to just come to work if they're going to be that difficult. I can understand needing a note and even constant updated ones for long term (months) but not a few days.

Thankfully my boss does not really enforce it. His response is usually something to the effect "stay home and get some rest, the work will be here when you're feeling better".

I'd also hate to know that sick people are going in to work in the food industry because their boss makes it difficult for them to take a sick day. Yeah, about that green sauce on your pizza....
 
MagnusTheBrewer said:
It is neither food nor, is it served quickly.
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UglyCasanova said:
I can see both sides of this. It is a huge waste of time to have to go sit in the clinic and pay to get a doctor's excuse, but from experience employees at the low wage jobs can be flaky and not show up for a myriad of reasons other than being sick.

I used to work at a restaurant (several) when I was younger and plenty of times myself and others would be "sick" because we were so hung over from the night before. I've seen people go on crack binges and be missing for several days. These low wage jobs are generally filled by young people, and many times I've seen them call in sick because they wanted to go out of town with their friends.

As a manager you need to have your full staff there so that everything goes smoothly, just part of running a business. People do lie - alot - and a manager needs to deal with that, and yeah that probably involves getting a doctor's excuse to prove you are legitimately sick and not hung over or at the beach.
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Yeah I agree man. There's definitely valid points on both sides.
 
We recently instituted this policy at the hospital because the nurses would always call in sick and go to the beach. Especially on Fridays before a long weekend.
 
I have an employee who always calls out for bullshit reasons. He has missed at least 15 days this year already. I require him to see a doctor and bring a note now. More so as punishment for abusing the sick policy.
It is understandable that people DO get sick. If you are one of those people that rarely calls off, then I am inclined to believe you. If you call out because you have a headache once a week, then fuck you, spend the money & bring me a goddamn note.
 
I think there are valid points on both sides, people absolutely love to call in sick just for a day off.. I've spoken to a reasonable amount of people who consider "sick days" just extra vacation days and use them as such.

In my practice, for patients I know reasonably well, I simply have them call my office, the front desk staff will print a form letter, I'll sign it, and it can be faxed/emailed/picked up. Minimal time wasted.
 
Seems stupid to ask an employee for a sick note when they are casual, and only get paid for the hours they work.

As a consultant if I don't work I don't get paid.

If I am sick I just call the employer and tell them I am sick and won't be in ... I TELL them.

I run my life ... not them.
 
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Reynod said:
Seems stupid to ask an employee for a sick note when they are casual, and only get paid for the hours they work.

As a consultant if I don't work I don't get paid.

If I am sick I just call the employer and tell them I am sick and won't be in ... I TELL them.

I run my life ... not them.
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You're a consultant...not doing shift work. If you have a crew of 4 working at Pizza Hut in a given shift and two of them call in "sick" because they're going to a concert, you're screwed. Both sides have valid points but many here fail to see the employer's side.
 
Yea, sick notes are legit. You'd be amazed how many people out there have very little work ethic and will call in for any reason 'sick' just to not go in. The doctor's notes are to make that happen less.

Of COURSE if you are sick you should stay home. Pretty sure Pizza Hut knows that too.

Once someone is hired it is really difficult to fire them for calling in sick repeatedly due to our sue happy world. Thus, the note. If you habitually call in, and you don't have notes showing you are sick (or you didn't post pictures of your drunkfest on facebook like a retard), you will probably be let go after so many times.
 
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