Looking for an AWD/4WD, stick shift, wagon

[jlee]

Originally posted by: kabob983
Give her some grunt and get a Impreza WRX wagon.

:thumbsup:

 

[Throckmorton]

Subaru has a significant advantage.. All of their cars are AWD. Most of those other suggestions are almost all FWD, with a few AWD examples, and out of those even fewer are manual.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Subaru has a significant advantage.. All of their cars are AWD. Most of those other suggestions are almost all FWD, with a few AWD examples, and out of those even fewer are manual.

Where do you suppose subaru got the idea for their "symmetric AWD" from?

 

[Turkish]

Something like this: http://orangecounty.en.craigsl...org/car/779803554.html

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Subaru has a significant advantage.. All of their cars are AWD. Most of those other suggestions are almost all FWD, with a few AWD examples, and out of those even fewer are manual.

Where do you suppose subaru got the idea for their "symmetric AWD" from?

More like the other way around?

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Subaru has a significant advantage.. All of their cars are AWD. Most of those other suggestions are almost all FWD, with a few AWD examples, and out of those even fewer are manual.

Where do you suppose subaru got the idea for their "symmetric AWD" from?

More like the other way around?

Part-time 4x4 with a transfer case, that you can't even engage on dry pavement != "symmetric AWD".

Leone didn't get fulltime 4x4 until the late 80's, i'm not sure if any other models did earlier, but I don't think they did, AFAIK. I think subaru uses/used viscous coupling on their fulltime AWD ones, audi is all gears... (except some of the newer models [A3, TT] with transverse engines, with haldex.. I don't really count them as quattro though)

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: Colt45

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Subaru has a significant advantage.. All of their cars are AWD. Most of those other suggestions are almost all FWD, with a few AWD examples, and out of those even fewer are manual.

Where do you suppose subaru got the idea for their "symmetric AWD" from?

More like the other way around?

Part-time 4x4 with a transfer case, that you can't even engage on dry pavement != "symmetric AWD".

Leone didn't get fulltime 4x4 until the late 80's, i'm not sure if any other models did earlier, but I don't think they did, AFAIK. I think subaru uses/used viscous coupling on their fulltime AWD ones, audi is all gears... (except some of the newer models [A3, TT] with transverse engines, with haldex.. I don't really count them as quattro though)

Score another one to Marketing terms. :roll: Plenty of manufacturers have used Torsen setups. None of it was 'invented' by Audi.

Quattro is the VTEC of transmissions.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Manual + AWD/RWD that isn't a BMW pretty much means a Subaru.

Infiniti G35 too, but it's not a wagon.

Just tell her to suck it up and either pay the coin for the BMW (don't forget maintenance on that one, hah) or get a Subaru.

 

[SketchMaster]

Suzuki SX4

I know, "WTF SUZUKI!?", but it's a great little car that has not given me any issues for the +40K that I have driven mine. And it's a lot more roomy than it looks, I can fit a full sized mountain bike in the back of mine.

 

[mc866]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: mc866

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: senseamp
Saab 9-2X

agree, i have one and its a great lil car

05-06s go in the 10-15k range depending on mileage and mods

i got my 05 with 32K on it for 10K$

Damn you guys beat me to it, +1 though, looking for one myself right now

you look on saab92x.com? few people selling theirs on there currently

I have not but thanks for the tip, I'll check it out.

 

[NAC]

2000+ E46 BMW - probably the nicest to drive of any I'm gonna list, but all are nice cars to drive. I've seen them for under 22k, but definitely not common.

A4 Avant B5 or B6 - nicest interior, similar size to BMW. 1.8L turbo or 3.0L available in B6. Much more common and cheaper than BMW

Golf R32 - smaller than any of the above

S4 Avant B5 - 2.7L twin turbo. I think there is a tendancy for the turbos to need replacing ($$$) after 80k miles or so.

S4 Avant B6 although YMMV - mine with manual was 21,900 from a private seller. A monster 4.2L V8. Fastest wagon available with a manual.

Audi Allroad - bigger than any of the above, 2.7L twin turbo. Perhaps the most common of anything on this list.

 

[Colt45]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero


Score another one to Marketing terms. :roll: Plenty of manufacturers have used Torsen setups. None of it was 'invented' by Audi.

Quattro is the VTEC of transmissions.

please point out which of the "plenty of manufacturers" did it before audi.

 

[Kabob]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: kabob983
Give her some grunt and get a Impreza WRX wagon.

:thumbsup:

Nothing says "I love you" like a cheap 230 hp/220 ft lbs torque for your lady friend.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: vi edit
The stick requirement kills most options.

Audi A4, Subaru, and BMW are about your only choices. You could maybe find a Volvo R70 too.

Volvo V70R?
That's what I came in to suggest.

 

[450]

Originally posted by: NACA4 Avant B5 or B6 - nicest interior, similar size to BMW. 1.8L turbo or 3.0L available in B6. Much more common and cheaper than BMW

I'd avoid the 1.8 turbo. Too many problems with the plastic impeller etc. I'd stick with the 2.8L (B5) or the 3.0L (B6) engines.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Turkish
Something like this: http://orangecounty.en.craigsl...org/car/779803554.html

Have you taken a look at this?

My aunt has an A6 Wagon w/ 5 spd and I love driving that car everytime I visit her.

 

[SoulAssassin]

forget a car, get a Jeep.

 

[mitaiwan82]

Originally posted by: desy
Mazda6 awd wagon
Fusion awd

only US-spec AWD Mazda6 I know is the Mazdaspeed6...