Looking for a webhost

Fiveohhh

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I'm looking for a webhost for a compnay that isn't going to shut the acct off because 5 spam complaints come in. I have a client currently that sends out emails to their clients. They also send out emails to to people that signed up for a raffle or drawing of somesort. Everyone opted in, but they are too lazy to click the unsubscribe link on the bottom of the email and instead reported it as spam. Anyway Clook shut there acct off with out any warning. I'm wondering if there are some hosts that are geared towards this type of client. Everyone on the list opted in, and there is an unsubscribe link on the bottom of the emails.
 

Conky

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Everybody knows that the "unsubscribe" link really means "send me more spam".

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DeviousTrap

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There are some hosts that specialise in it, but due to the nature of the site your real best bet would be a low end dedicated server. That way you could be incharge of your own spam complaints, most shared hosts will kick you off due to complaints, mainly because they cannot risk getting their server blacklisted, as that would affect other clients as well.
 

jfall

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I agree with DeviousTrap, look into a either a dedicated server or a VPS (virtual private server) as you will have your own mail server with a dedicated IP. You would be responsible for spam blocks etc.

Within a shared hosting enviornment everyone uses the same mail server, if that IP gets blocked then everyone suffers. Webhosts need to do what is best to protect their clients, if a customer is generating spam complaints then that will most likely lead to a suspension.
 

DeviousTrap

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Originally posted by: jfall
I agree with DeviousTrap, look into a either a dedicated server or a VPS (virtual private server) as you will have your own mail server with a dedicated IP. You would be responsible for spam blocks etc.

Within a shared hosting enviornment everyone uses the same mail server, if that IP gets blocked then everyone suffers. Webhosts need to do what is best to protect their clients, if a customer is generating spam complaints then that will most likely lead to a suspension.

You would still be better of with a dedicated server in my opinion. A VPS is not quite as private and isolated as a dedicated box. On top of that they usually get few ips and if you do end up getting blacklisted the VPS provider might kick you off just so that they don't get their other vps server ips blacklisted (blacklists usually block the main ip, and then start blcoking the nearby ips if the "spam" sending continues). Unfortunately this arguement could also extend to dedicated server providers, but based on the ones I've worked with they are a lot more cooperative.
 

jfall

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Originally posted by: DeviousTrap
Originally posted by: jfall
I agree with DeviousTrap, look into a either a dedicated server or a VPS (virtual private server) as you will have your own mail server with a dedicated IP. You would be responsible for spam blocks etc.

Within a shared hosting enviornment everyone uses the same mail server, if that IP gets blocked then everyone suffers. Webhosts need to do what is best to protect their clients, if a customer is generating spam complaints then that will most likely lead to a suspension.

You would still be better of with a dedicated server in my opinion. A VPS is not quite as private and isolated as a dedicated box. On top of that they usually get few ips and if you do end up getting blacklisted the VPS provider might kick you off just so that they don't get their other vps server ips blacklisted (blacklists usually block the main ip, and then start blcoking the nearby ips if the "spam" sending continues). Unfortunately this arguement could also extend to dedicated server providers, but based on the ones I've worked with they are a lot more cooperative.


Right, not quite as isolated, but much cheaper and usually geared more towards newbie server admins. It really does depend on the provider, I work for some companies that offer great VPS packages and others that are just horrible.

In any event, at minimum you should have a dedicated mail server. Do not bother with a shared hosting platform. If the host states that they will not remove your account if you are placed on blacklists then chances are they are not a very smart host to begin with and not one that I would recommend doing business with.
 

DeviousTrap

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Originally posted by: jfall
Originally posted by: DeviousTrap
Originally posted by: jfall
I agree with DeviousTrap, look into a either a dedicated server or a VPS (virtual private server) as you will have your own mail server with a dedicated IP. You would be responsible for spam blocks etc.

Within a shared hosting enviornment everyone uses the same mail server, if that IP gets blocked then everyone suffers. Webhosts need to do what is best to protect their clients, if a customer is generating spam complaints then that will most likely lead to a suspension.

You would still be better of with a dedicated server in my opinion. A VPS is not quite as private and isolated as a dedicated box. On top of that they usually get few ips and if you do end up getting blacklisted the VPS provider might kick you off just so that they don't get their other vps server ips blacklisted (blacklists usually block the main ip, and then start blcoking the nearby ips if the "spam" sending continues). Unfortunately this arguement could also extend to dedicated server providers, but based on the ones I've worked with they are a lot more cooperative.


Right, not quite as isolated, but much cheaper and usually geared more towards newbie server admins. It really does depend on the provider, I work for some companies that offer great VPS packages and others that are just horrible.

In any event, at minimum you should have a dedicated mail server. Do not bother with a shared hosting platform. If the host states that they will not remove your account if you are placed on blacklists then chances are they are not a very smart host to begin with and not one that I would recommend doing business with.

Yup, obviously depends on his budget. I know of a couple $40-50 servers that would fit his needs, but he would need to learn to manage them, or hire a 3rd party server admin.