Originally posted by: jagec
Learn to spell "vehicle", though
NOOOOO!!! I thought i finally made 1 topic without a spelling mistake....
NOOOOO!!! I thought i finally made 1 topic without a spelling mistake....
Be very careful in that price range. Most of the 98 or newer SUVs in the $5000-7000 range have hidden or not-so-hidden problems. (IE salvage titles, major previous damage, etc)
I was recently shopping for a "small" SUV for my gf's mom, in the $5000-8000 range. I would have been most comfortable with a Cherokee or Grand Cherokee, but we just didn't find quite what we were looking for. (in that price range it would have had to be a 97-98)
The 4.0 engine is solid, as you've determined. Cherokees are fun and fast, and definitely fit the high school/college crowd more than some of the others. But definitely get a carfax account, run all VIN #s through it, and inspect everything carefully for damage.
PS: The best thing we could find after 2 months of looking around was a honda passport (rebadged izuzu rodeo). It actually turned out to be a pretty decent vehicle, the funny thing is that it says honda, but it's really an izuzu, but it's really sourced from like 5 OTHER manufacturers. LOL.
What are the gas mileage estimates for some of the vehicles you're looking at? I had an early 90's Chevy S10 Blazer 4x4 with the 4.3l, and consistently got 19-20 mpg out of it. I loved that truck - too bad I totaled it
Nate
Nate
I'd get a pimp stick-shift 'ruck like a S10. The GM/GMCs are nice, but as you said they are kinda thirsty on gas, not sure if you wanna be paying out the ass for gas as soon as you start driving. The Toyota suggestion was good though too.
If you wanna take big burn rides with your friends, then the van could do. Kinda sucks otherwise...
If you wanna take big burn rides with your friends, then the van could do. Kinda sucks otherwise...
thanks for the help. I'm seriously looking into my bro's van, but there's still the fact that it's a "van"...O well, if it's a nice car then so be it!
I still like the Explorer and the Cherokee though...
I still like the Explorer and the Cherokee though...
Zenmervolt
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None of those are "easy" on gasoline. Not even somewhat. You're talking 21 mpg on the highway at best. That's pretty poor. And you'll probably see 15-17 in mixed driving.
The Jeep 4.0 litre is a _straight_ six, not a vee.
Also, there are 3 different 4.0 litre V6 engines used in Explorers. There's the 4.0 litre Cologne-built pushrod V6 that was in the first generation Explorer and made 160 HP. Then there's the SOHC V6 in the base model second generation Explorers (a very slight improvement over the then 25-ish year old pushrod V6) and the DOHC V6 in the mid-range and high end (pre-5.0 V8 option) Explorers. The pushrod V6 is anemic, but bulletproof. The SOHC and DOHC V6's had some teething problems, but came out pretty good. The DOHC version of the 4.0 litre V6 wasn't distinguishable from the 302 V8 unless one was towing, and then the 302 V8 was clearly better. Unless you're going to be towing though, the DOHC 4.0 litre will have all the power you'll need. SOHC should be fine too, just a little more sluggish.
ZV
The Jeep 4.0 litre is a _straight_ six, not a vee.
Also, there are 3 different 4.0 litre V6 engines used in Explorers. There's the 4.0 litre Cologne-built pushrod V6 that was in the first generation Explorer and made 160 HP. Then there's the SOHC V6 in the base model second generation Explorers (a very slight improvement over the then 25-ish year old pushrod V6) and the DOHC V6 in the mid-range and high end (pre-5.0 V8 option) Explorers. The pushrod V6 is anemic, but bulletproof. The SOHC and DOHC V6's had some teething problems, but came out pretty good. The DOHC version of the 4.0 litre V6 wasn't distinguishable from the 302 V8 unless one was towing, and then the 302 V8 was clearly better. Unless you're going to be towing though, the DOHC 4.0 litre will have all the power you'll need. SOHC should be fine too, just a little more sluggish.
ZV
Sorry, i knew the Jeep was a straight 6, i just made a typo (imagine that....). That's what it gets a lot of it's reliablitiy from AFIAK.
I think that the Explorer i linked to had the SOHC, though it may have the push-rod one, but being it's '99 i think the SOHC is the one
And i know none of these will be "good" on gas, but i want something along these lines (van aside for a moment) and although i could get a dodge ram with the 5.9l V8 for a decent price, i think that the ones that i picked out will do fine for me without getting maybe 15mpg highway max...
Something that has enough power to tow a bit and be able to carry a lot (I bike/ski/fish/hunt, so extra space is important) is what i want, so that's why the ones i picked out (and yes...the van) are my #1 options right now.
the 4.3 L from GM is also known as a bullet proof engine. 3/4 350 is a nickname for it i believe.
but trust me it rapes gas (98 4 door jimmy) just averaged 20mpg on a 300 mile trip on I80/90 but i was goin about 85 so that hurt.
MIKE
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I know, GM seemed to have geared all of these up so that it runs faster than it has to for more torque, so it would be nice if they used the same engine but geared them differently to save on gas and put them in a smaller SUV, but i'm guessing that they wouldn't do that.
I know, GM seemed to have geared all of these up so that it runs faster than it has to for more torque, so it would be nice if they used the same engine but geared them differently to save on gas and put them in a smaller SUV, but i'm guessing that they wouldn't do that.
See if you can get the van for cheaper. The book value for 1994 Lumina is ~$900 to $1300 in your area depending on mileage and options. I entered 130,000 for mileage. Test drive it and if all is good, talk with your brother about price.
Van is cheaper to insure and whatever you save on the car, you can spend on insurance and gas.
Ever thought you might end up getting a $5,000 SUV, but end up having to pay $3-4 K in insurance a year as a 16 year old driver?
Van is cheaper to insure and whatever you save on the car, you can spend on insurance and gas.
Ever thought you might end up getting a $5,000 SUV, but end up having to pay $3-4 K in insurance a year as a 16 year old driver?
What about a Ranger with the 4 cylinder? I've heard they're decent on gas...but the 4 cylinder may not last too long...
same with the S10, hows GM's 4 cyl.? You see quite a few of the Rangers with these for not too much money, how would they last?
Thanks!
same with the S10, hows GM's 4 cyl.? You see quite a few of the Rangers with these for not too much money, how would they last?
Thanks!
Toyota pickup.. I have an old '86 and it is a beast. Not in terms of power, but endurance. My brother owns a '92 five speed and it is easy to drive and has everything you need in a car. Both are cheap to drive and very reliable.
Out of the ones you listed, the S10. Trucks are the best. I have experience with the Toyotas so I'll recommend them, but the most common car I see at college is the mini trucks (with canopy) because they are so practical and fun to drive.
And get a stick shift!
Out of the ones you listed, the S10. Trucks are the best. I have experience with the Toyotas so I'll recommend them, but the most common car I see at college is the mini trucks (with canopy) because they are so practical and fun to drive.
And get a stick shift!
late 80's ranger with a 4 banger, 70mph top speed to keep you out of trouble, good gas milage, will last 200k-300k miles. Find one with around 100k on it and you will be good for awhile for less than $1000
Ok, my metal/wood shop teacher just bought a GMC K1500, and he wants to sell his '95 Dodge Dakota.
I know that they're tranny's have had problems, as he said his was getting sloppy, but he said that after he flushed the tranny and replaced the filter it worked many of the problems out.
It is an extended cab with an auto tranny, has about 150,000 miles on it, and has the 5.2L V8. He said it gets around 22 miles to the gallon, which is appx. what the vehicles on my list get. It has some rust, a big scratch on the side, and is missing some of the paint, but he said that all-in-all it runs good and being it's not the prettiest and it's "a beater" that he'd sell it for about $1250-1500.
Now, this is what I want. I mean, if the tranny lasts another 30,000-50,000 miles i'll get my money's worth.
What do u all think about this? I'll add it to the poll!
I know that they're tranny's have had problems, as he said his was getting sloppy, but he said that after he flushed the tranny and replaced the filter it worked many of the problems out.
It is an extended cab with an auto tranny, has about 150,000 miles on it, and has the 5.2L V8. He said it gets around 22 miles to the gallon, which is appx. what the vehicles on my list get. It has some rust, a big scratch on the side, and is missing some of the paint, but he said that all-in-all it runs good and being it's not the prettiest and it's "a beater" that he'd sell it for about $1250-1500.
Now, this is what I want. I mean, if the tranny lasts another 30,000-50,000 miles i'll get my money's worth.
What do u all think about this? I'll add it to the poll!
Yes, i did list power, but it's not a big thing in my decision. I just know that for the most part a V8 or V6 will last longer than a 4 cylinder because the engine doesnt have to work as hard. Also, if i have 4WD, a 4 cylinder may be a little weak, and 4WD would come in handy off road (I chop/haul wood with my dad now, i just thought another truck or something would let us double our load) and when it's icy.
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