Looking for a Top-Notch 19" CRT Monitor

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jgbishop

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I am looking to buy a high-quality 19" CRT. It must be capable of running 1600x1200 at a decent refresh rate (~75 Hz), as my current 19" is not capable of going higher than 60 Hz. As a result, I run 1280x1024.

The monitor will be used for gaming (action gaming mostly) and general computer use (web-surfing/development, programming, etc.). Price is no concern.

What models do people recommend? I'd like to get one ASAP, as CRT's are starting to disappear from the market.
 
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trinibwoy

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I have the Viewsonic p95f+ and it's a beauty. I thinkg the G series is just one step down from it but I'm not sure what the differences are.
 
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imported_humey

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The above i posted,

640 x 480 @ 60 to 160 Hz
800 x 600 @ 50 to 160 Hz
1024 x 768 @ 50 to 136 Hz
1152 x 870 @ 50 to 120 Hz
1280 x 1024 @ 50 to 102 Hz
1600 x 1200 @ 50 to 88 Hz
1792 x 1344 @ 50 to 78 Hz
1800 x 1440 @ 50 to 73 Hz
1856 x 1392 @ 50 to 75 Hz
1920 x 1440 @ 50 to 73 Hz
 
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fierydemise

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Besides the viewsonic listed most of those are going to be impossible to find new, the viewsonic ig good, I'd also look at the Samsung 997DF it has the same specs as the viewsonic and its cheaper.
 
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kmmatney

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Here's one thing I've never figured out with CRTs. The ViewSonic is a 19" CRT, which means an 18" actual display. At 1600 x 1200 resolution, you have 2000 pixels along the diagonal.

The diagonal is 18", or 457.2 mm
To have 2000 pixels along this length, you'll need a pixel size of 0.229 mm.

However, the monitor only has a diagonal pixel size of 0.25 mm! Theoretically, it should not be able to achieve 1600 x 1200 resolution, let alone the maximum of 1920x1440.
 
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kmmatney

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I should clarify, we have the white version of the monitor in my office:

ViewSonic G90F Beige 19" CRT Monitor 0.21mm horizontal, 0.25mm diagonal Dot

The monitor looks exactly like the one at NewEgg that Rollo linked to, but the "recommended" resolution is 1280 x 1024. The one Rollo linked to had a "recommended" resolution of 1600 x 1200. The monitors look identical, to me, except that one is black. I think NewEgg gmight had messed up the specs on the black one, or perhaps it is a different monitor.
 
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PerfeK

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Originally posted by: kmmatney
Here's one thing I've never figured out with CRTs. The ViewSonic is a 19" CRT, which means an 18" actual display. At 1600 x 1200 resolution, you have 2000 pixels along the diagonal.

The diagonal is 18", or 457.2 mm
To have 2000 pixels along this length, you'll need a pixel size of 0.229 mm.

However, the monitor only has a diagonal pixel size of 0.25 mm! Theoretically, it should not be able to achieve 1600 x 1200 resolution, let alone the maximum of 1920x1440.
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The monitor doesn't display all of the pixels. It is not pixel perfect like an LCD.
 
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kmmatney

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hmmmm... I have no idea why they would recommend the resolution of 1280 x 1024 on the monitor I linked to above. The NEC Diamond Pro humey linked to also has a recommended resolution of 1280 x 1024. Wouldn't this look crap on a 4:3 monitor - I would think it should be 1280 x 960.

You really need to go to 21" to find something thats is meant to be run at 1600 x 1200.
 
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CraigRT

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Originally posted by: kmmatney
hmmmm... I have no idea why they would recommend the resolution of 1280 x 1024 on the monitor I linked to above. The NEC Diamond Pro humey linked to also has a recommended resolution of 1280 x 1024. Wouldn't this look crap on a 4:3 monitor - I would think it should be 1280 x 960.

You really need to go to 21" to find something thats is meant to be run at 1600 x 1200.
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I've always run 1280x1024 on my 19's... i never really liked 960.. to each their own I guess :p
 
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acemcmac

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samsung 957MB hands down

oh.. nm.. the poster above me has the updated version of it... 997DF-T/T 19
 
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HDTVMan

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If you dont mine refurbished and 21 Inch

IBM P-260/ Sony Trinitron 21" Flat Tube Monitor (Beige) $99.99
http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=MON10142

Tube Type: - CRT 21inch SONY Trinitron FD (Flat Display)
Dot Pitch: - 0.24 mm Aperture Grill Pitch
Viewable Size: - 19.8inch
HSCAN / VSCAN: - 30 kHz to 121 kHz / 50 Hz to 160 Hz
Refresh Rate - Max/Recommended: - 85Hz / 85Hz
Resolution - MAX/Recommended: - 1920X1440 / 1280X1024, 1600x1200
Type: - MultiScan, Plug and Play
Platforms: - PC and MAC
Signal Input: - 15-pin D-sub (standard VGA plug) and DVI (Digital Video Interface).
Dimensions: - 19.8 in. (W) x 19.6 in. (H) x 20.0 in (D)
Condition: Refurbished
Warranty: 90 Days
 
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johnnqq

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do not get trinitron. i have one. they don't last long and have 2 annoying (but not very obvious) gray lines across the screen. this monitor is about 4 years old and is starting to fade...
 
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CP5670

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You know, why has 1280x1024 become mainstream? I've seen 1280x1024 instead of 1280x960 since like 1995, when 4:3 CRT monitors were completely standard (in fact, I think modern 17/19" LCDs were made 5:4 in order to support this resolution, not the other way around). 1280x1024 has always been something of an oddity; when they list the standard supported resolutions for a monitor, everything else is 4:3 except for this one. Did some guy make a math error many years ago and the rest of the world has been following that ever since?

I always use 960 whenever possible. 1024 makes everything look slightly squished. I hate it when games only support 1024 and have no way of using custom resolutions.

For the original post, that one humey linked to is probably the best 19" you can get, but it was discontinued almost two years ago and is going to be nearly impossible to find now. I have the Diamond Pro 2070, the 21" version of that one, which was only discontinued recently and is easier to find, but the recently manufactured ones have very poor quality control.

do not get trinitron. i have one. they don't last long and have 2 annoying (but not very obvious) gray lines across the screen. this monitor is about 4 years old and is starting to fade...
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The lines don't bother me too much. They are certainly noticeable if the image is lightly colored, but I think the other advantages of AG tubes far outweigh those lines.
 
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nRollo

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Originally posted by: johnnqq
do not get trinitron. i have one. they don't last long and have 2 annoying (but not very obvious) gray lines across the screen. this monitor is about 4 years old and is starting to fade...
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For gaming, you almost never notice the lines because there is usually color displayed.

Trinitron is the way to go for bright, beautiful colors.

 
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JRW

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I've had my 21" Sony G520P CRT for almost 2 years and it has a great picture, aperture grille based monitors(trinitron) are known to have brighter / more vibrant pictures vs. Shadow mask based CRTs.

It's to bad Sony stopped making CRT based PC monitors.
 
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