Looking for a HDTV...

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I'll make the suggestion of checking out AVSforum.

Do you need to buy it at sears, or is that just where you happened to find those two?

Oh, and your links don't seem to work for me.
 

JBDan

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These are IMO the sweetest HDTV's made>>http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...ail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR5078WX%2fXAA
I had their older model (HLN) and did about 5 months worth of research before I bought it. They are reasonably priced IMO and offer the best bang for the high buck. No burn-in / Contrast that almost rivals a plasma / 1080p upconvert all signals / no more rainbow effect (unless you are quite the videophile) / user replaceable lamp / very light / thin. Viewing angle is not like that of a plasma or crt, but better than an LCD. Take a look at them, but remember, the displays in the store are not calibrated correctly and their signals are usually very poor because of all the splits.
 

keeleysam

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Originally posted by: JBDan
These are IMO the sweetest HDTV's made>>http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...ail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR5078WX%2fXAA
I had their older model (HLN) and did about 5 months worth of research before I bought it. They are reasonably priced IMO and offer the best bang for the high buck. No burn-in / Contrast that almost rivals a plasma / 1080p upconvert all signals / no more rainbow effect (unless you are quite the videophile) / user replaceable lamp / very light / thin. Viewing angle is not like that of a plasma or crt, but better than an LCD. Take a look at them, but remember, the displays in the store are not calibrated correctly and their signals are usually very poor because of all the splits.

QFT I own the linked one. Can't beat Samsung for DLP.
 

JBDan

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Oops I looked at your links 7earitup :shocked: These are probably a little over budget for you my bad. :)
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Originally posted by: JBDan
Oops I looked at your links 7earitup :shocked: These are probably a little over budget for you my bad. :)

Yeah, he said about $800 so probably not the one you linked to :laugh:
 

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http://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=5946751&SourceID=k15505

pc connection has the slimfit Samsung for $879 with free shipping and no tax. Probably the best you can hope for. It has two component inputs and one digital HDMI input so you won't need to worry about Blu Ray or HD DVD leaving you in the dust.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product....d=05742185000&subcat=25+to+30+inch+TVs

That is a good cheap model with dual component inputs and DVI. The samsung would be better after it's been calibrated, but it's cheaper. Samsungs are good. The only thing I don't like about the brand is that their factory settings usualy suck. In order to get the most out of their displays I suggest getting a avia or digital video essentials callibrating disc.
 

OneOfTheseDays

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If you get the Samsung Slimfit make SURE to get the newest model 308XXX i believe. It has corrected the geometry problems that plague the first iterations of the slimfit series, and has the speakers on the bottom of the tv to save space.
 

mcmikemc

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Originally posted by: JBDan
These are IMO the sweetest HDTV's made>>http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...ail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR5078WX%2fXAA
I had their older model (HLN) and did about 5 months worth of research before I bought it. They are reasonably priced IMO and offer the best bang for the high buck. No burn-in / Contrast that almost rivals a plasma / 1080p upconvert all signals / no more rainbow effect (unless you are quite the videophile) / user replaceable lamp / very light / thin. Viewing angle is not like that of a plasma or crt, but better than an LCD. Take a look at them, but remember, the displays in the store are not calibrated correctly and their signals are usually very poor because of all the splits.

Do those new Samsung 1080p DLPs support true 1080p signals or is the highest they can do 1080i?

I remember looking at a 1080p LCD that's max input was 1080i not to long ago.
 

kylebisme

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I checked the manual on their site and it lists 1920x1080@60hz for the VGA input anyway, it doesn't list the supported resolutions on digital inputs but I'd imagine they would support 1080p as well.
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: mcmikemc
Originally posted by: JBDan
These are IMO the sweetest HDTV's made>>http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...ail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR5078WX%2fXAA
I had their older model (HLN) and did about 5 months worth of research before I bought it. They are reasonably priced IMO and offer the best bang for the high buck. No burn-in / Contrast that almost rivals a plasma / 1080p upconvert all signals / no more rainbow effect (unless you are quite the videophile) / user replaceable lamp / very light / thin. Viewing angle is not like that of a plasma or crt, but better than an LCD. Take a look at them, but remember, the displays in the store are not calibrated correctly and their signals are usually very poor because of all the splits.

Do those new Samsung 1080p DLPs support true 1080p signals or is the highest they can do 1080i?

I remember looking at a 1080p LCD that's max input was 1080i not to long ago.

They support the full 1080p signal.
 
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Originally posted by: JBDan
Originally posted by: mcmikemc
Originally posted by: JBDan
These are IMO the sweetest HDTV's made>>http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...ail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR5078WX%2fXAA
I had their older model (HLN) and did about 5 months worth of research before I bought it. They are reasonably priced IMO and offer the best bang for the high buck. No burn-in / Contrast that almost rivals a plasma / 1080p upconvert all signals / no more rainbow effect (unless you are quite the videophile) / user replaceable lamp / very light / thin. Viewing angle is not like that of a plasma or crt, but better than an LCD. Take a look at them, but remember, the displays in the store are not calibrated correctly and their signals are usually very poor because of all the splits.

Do those new Samsung 1080p DLPs support true 1080p signals or is the highest they can do 1080i?

I remember looking at a 1080p LCD that's max input was 1080i not to long ago.

They support the full 1080p signal.

Wow. That costs more than I paid for my car, but I want one. :D
 

kylebisme

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Those 1080p DLPs are pretty slick, but for the money I'd rather have a nice 768p plasma. As far as money is no object HDTVs go, I'd reallly like to see one of these in action.
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Those 1080p DLPs are pretty slick, but for the money I'd rather have a nice 768p plasma. As far as money is no object HDTVs go, I'd reallly like to see one of these in action.

WWOOWW!! I'd like to see as well. I'm still partial to the dlp's. So many pros/cons about each, but the ones that bothered me most about the PDP panels are: 1) (and this is a biggie IMO) screen BURN-IN
2) heat (wow do they emit some BTU's) 3) life expectancy (although this has gotten much better in the past 2 years). For the money, IMHO DLP is seriously the way to go.
 

kylebisme

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Burn in on plasmas has gotten a lot beter along with life expectancy. I'm sure you could burn one in if you tried, but I accedently left mine on desktop overnight once and didn't even notice the slightest hint of image retention let alone any burn in. I have also put in hundreds of hours in various games and not a hint of any of their HUDs have ever stayed on the screen. So at least for normal use I think the burn in problem with plasmas is a thing of the past.

As for heat, they do run a lot hotter than other technologies but I figure what it does to hurt my A/C bill in the summer it makes back by keeping things warm in the winter. And at least on my Panasonic the fans are really quiet (Panaflo I'd imagine) so the extra heat is really something I never even notice.
 

JBDan

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Originally posted by: TheSnowman
Burn in on plasmas has gotten a lot beter along with life expectancy. I'm sure you could burn one in if you tried, but I accedently left mine on desktop overnight once and didn't even notice the slightest hint of image retention let alone any burn in. I have also put in hundreds of hours in various games and not a hint of any of their HUDs have ever stayed on the screen. So at least for normal use I think the burn in problem with plasmas is a thing of the past.

As for heat, they do run a lot hotter than other technologies but I figure what it does to hurt my A/C bill in the summer it makes back by keeping things warm in the winter. And at least on my Panasonic the fans are really quiet (Panaflo I'd imagine) so the extra heat is really something I never even notice.

lol kinda like a little fireplace in the winter. Probably right about the equaling out of power/gas bills during diff seasons. Never thought about that. :Q Burn-in in a PDP is still there: for the one ignoramus who leaves town with the tube on & text on the screen. I really like PAnnie's new DLP line. :)
 

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Originally posted by: keeleysam
Originally posted by: JBDan
These are IMO the sweetest HDTV's made>>http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...ail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=HLR5078WX%2fXAA
I had their older model (HLN) and did about 5 months worth of research before I bought it. They are reasonably priced IMO and offer the best bang for the high buck. No burn-in / Contrast that almost rivals a plasma / 1080p upconvert all signals / no more rainbow effect (unless you are quite the videophile) / user replaceable lamp / very light / thin. Viewing angle is not like that of a plasma or crt, but better than an LCD. Take a look at them, but remember, the displays in the store are not calibrated correctly and their signals are usually very poor because of all the splits.

QFT I own the linked one. Can't beat Samsung for DLP.

Got one two and I'm very pleased!
 

IeraseU

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Guys, check the avsforums on samsung dlp's. Many people reported 'gaming lag'. As in you press a button and it takes a second for it to register on the screen.
 

JBDan

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This was/is an issue for their HLN line, but it was/is so minute it never bothered me. It was milliseconds though not a full second. I thought it would be non-existent by now, but thanks for the heads up Ierase.