Looking for a good subwoofer in the sub $400 range(no pun intended)

[glen]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
SVS is kinda overated and basically just ripped off HSU, which also makes the big round sub and did it years ago.



PS: I have 4 18" sitting in 12 cubic ft box each and power by 5000 watts and there tuned to 20 hz !!!!!!!!!!!

massive drivers

Basically what I have, but 4 15" in a small room, powered with 1200 watt mono Hafler amplifier EQed with a Symetrix 551 parametric.

But, why tune to 20hz? Thereare 2 octaves between 5hz and 20hz and I can pretty much play them flat.

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
SVS is kinda overated and basically just ripped off HSU, which also makes the big round sub and did it years ago.



PS: I have 4 18" sitting in 12 cubic ft box each and power by 5000 watts and there tuned to 20 hz !!!!!!!!!!!

massive drivers

Basically what I have, but 4 15" in a small room, powered with 1200 watt mono Hafler amplifier EQed with a Symetrix 551 parametric.

But, why tune to 20hz? Thereare 2 octaves between 5hz and 20hz and I can pretty much play them flat.

Lots of reasons:

1. Most music doesn't go that low

2. 20 hz was best for sound quality since the FS was 20 and forcing them to play lower would have require a bigger and more complicated port.

3. The room itself will play down to 15 hertz which is fine for even classical music with pipe organ.

4. I've heard very loud 5 hertz bass and it really doesn't do much except that you feel a kinda of pressure.

 

[glen]

1 plenty does
2 don't use a port
3 You are telling me with a straight face that you have measured your room and done the calculations for the mass of air in your room?
4 feel the canons in the 1812

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: glen

1 plenty does
2 don't use a port
3 You are telling me with a straight face that you have measured your room and done the calculations for the mass of air in your room?
4 feel the canons in the 1812

1. I listen to rock mainly which tends to have most energy around 30 to 40 hertz with the kick drum, 20 hertz is actually used more for movies.
2. The drivers I used were very low Q and intended to be used in a ported box and even with the 2 inch linear excursion in a sealed box they wouldn't play very loud at 5 hertz.
3. LOL.....nothing like that just used some test tones to see how far they could extend, at 15 hertz there was still plenty of output.
4. with 4 15" I can't imagine there would be to much output at 5 hertz ?

 

[glen]

They are in an infinate baffle, I have 1200 watts on them, and the Symetric 551 parametric EQ with maximum emphasis on the low side.

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: glen
They are in an infinate baffle, I have 1200 watts on them, and the Symetric 551 parametric EQ with maximum emphasis on the low side.

What kind of output do you get at 5 and 10 hertz ?

GOT ANY PICS ?

 

[glen]

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: glen
They are in an infinate baffle, I have 1200 watts on them, and the Symetric 551 parametric EQ with maximum emphasis on the low side.

What kind of output do you get at 5 and 10 hertz ?

GOT ANY PICS ?

No pics; and I am shipping the subs to ViperGTS.
I have the drivers on a 2.5 " thick MDF CNC routed for the drivers.
Theoretically, I am flat, but my test equiptment, an Audio Control RTA, simply does not go down that low.
Basically you need a parametric EQ and set it for maxium boost at 5hz sloping down till you can actually "see" what you are doing with the RTA. An IB rolls off slowly, and predictably, so even with out EQing it has more output than a ported enclosure tuned to 20hz, simply becasue the ported one won't have ANY real output below the tunning Hz.

Look here:
http://t-3.cc/users/audioworx/page101-IB-FAQ.html

 

[Marauder-]

Originally posted by: bleeb
The Polk line of subwoofers are pretty nice as well and are below 400 bones.

Polk subs suck. You'll do fine by going SVS, HSU or Velo. (Which will be slightly surpassing your budget but will be WELL worth it.) Sunfires will definitely blow your budget away but at that price you might want to get a SVS PB2+ if space is not a concern.

 

[glen]

Here we go:
http://t-3.cc/users/kloneaudio/page13-12Shiva1.html

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: glen
They are in an infinate baffle, I have 1200 watts on them, and the Symetric 551 parametric EQ with maximum emphasis on the low side.

What kind of output do you get at 5 and 10 hertz ?

GOT ANY PICS ?

No pics; and I am shipping the subs to ViperGTS.
I have the drivers on a 2.5 " thick MDF CNC routed for the drivers.
Theoretically, I am flat, but my test equiptment, an Audio Control RTA, simply does not go down that low.
Basically you need a parametric EQ and set it for maxium boost at 5hz sloping down till you can actually "see" what you are doing with the RTA. An IB rolls off slowly, and predictably, so even with out EQing it has more output than a ported enclosure tuned to 20hz, simply becasue the ported one won't have ANY real output below the tunning Hz.

Look here:
http://t-3.cc/users/audioworx/page101-IB-FAQ.html

I've seen a setup like this, a guy showed his which was done in the basement and firing up into the listening room, powered with 2000 watts. It sounded pretty good with movies, he had 8 15" if I recall.

 

[TheeeChosenOne]

$400
Athena ASP-400 (Best Buy) (On internet: $300) (http://www.athenaspeakers.com) Review
Adire Rava (http://www.adireaudio.com/home_audio/loudspeakers/exact_series/rava.htm)

$500
Hsu Research VTF2 (www.hsuresearch.com)
SVS (http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pci_25-31.htm)

$750
ACI Force (http://www.audioc.com/speakers/Force/intro.htm)


These are all good subs. The key is to find a tight, powerful sub that won't artificially boom. All the subs above have been professionally raved to the extreme and will outperform anything at your local Circuit City.

 

[DieselUV]

This is what I have so I'm going to vote for it.

Boston Acoustics C110

Here's a review from Consumer Guide

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: glen
Here we go:
http://t-3.cc/users/kloneaudio/page13-12Shiva1.html

WOW that looks CRAZY.

Having a piece of floor cut out of a room so you could have 12 drivers make sound go to the other room!

Dam I bet it kicks HARD.

Koing

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: glen
Here we go:
http://t-3.cc/users/kloneaudio/page13-12Shiva1.html

WOW that looks CRAZY.

Having a piece of floor cut out of a room so you could have 12 drivers make sound go to the other room!

Dam I bet it kicks HARD.

Koing

That is a solid setup. 12 Shiva's would sound excellent... especially in my car

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: glen
They are in an infinate baffle, I have 1200 watts on them, and the Symetric 551 parametric EQ with maximum emphasis on the low side.

What kind of output do you get at 5 and 10 hertz ?

GOT ANY PICS ?

No pics; and I am shipping the subs to ViperGTS.
I have the drivers on a 2.5 " thick MDF CNC routed for the drivers.
Theoretically, I am flat, but my test equiptment, an Audio Control RTA, simply does not go down that low.
Basically you need a parametric EQ and set it for maxium boost at 5hz sloping down till you can actually "see" what you are doing with the RTA. An IB rolls off slowly, and predictably, so even with out EQing it has more output than a ported enclosure tuned to 20hz, simply becasue the ported one won't have ANY real output below the tunning Hz.

Look here:
http://t-3.cc/users/audioworx/page101-IB-FAQ.html

Damn yoooooouuu!

 

[Mrburns2007]

Originally posted by: glen

Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

Originally posted by: glen
They are in an infinate baffle, I have 1200 watts on them, and the Symetric 551 parametric EQ with maximum emphasis on the low side.

What kind of output do you get at 5 and 10 hertz ?

GOT ANY PICS ?

No pics; and I am shipping the subs to ViperGTS.
I have the drivers on a 2.5 " thick MDF CNC routed for the drivers.
Theoretically, I am flat, but my test equiptment, an Audio Control RTA, simply does not go down that low.
Basically you need a parametric EQ and set it for maxium boost at 5hz sloping down till you can actually "see" what you are doing with the RTA. An IB rolls off slowly, and predictably, so even with out EQing it has more output than a ported enclosure tuned to 20hz, simply becasue the ported one won't have ANY real output below the tunning Hz.

Look here:
http://t-3.cc/users/audioworx/page101-IB-FAQ.html

IB are a nice idea and all if your room will work with them, mine wouldn't so I had to build regular subs. I hit 125 db at the listener position though so it's like rock concert levels. My setup has plenty of extended bass truthfully don't think I'm missing 5 and 10 hertz much.