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T2T III

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For years and years, I'm still wondering why such an event happened? Granted, Gerald Ford wasn't much of a better competitor. But, Jimmy Carter?
 
A lot of people didn't really know what they were voting for with Carter or Reagan for that matter - they were just reacting and rolling dice. Same is true in this election. I was watching PBS doc on Carter - he and Obama sound the same. Obama is more radical though and doesnt even like the US. Joe Biden warning about Obama sinking in polls would come true soon
 
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A lot of people didn't really know what they were voting for with Carter or Reagan for that matter - they were just reacting and rolling dice. Same is true in this election. I was watching PBS doc on Carter - he and Obama sound the same. Obama is more radical though and doesnt even like the US. Joe Biden warning about Obama sinking in polls would come true soon
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Well, Carter was a hell of a lot better than Palin would be if ole' JMac bit the bucket, no doubt with that and I'm sure you agree.

 
Originally posted by: T2T III
For years and years, I'm still wondering why such an event happened? Granted, Gerald Ford wasn't much of a better competitor. But, Jimmy Carter?
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Doesn't sound like you were alive during watergate. There was almost as much fear in the country as after 9/11. People thought the country was coming apart. And, once again, repugs were in the white house. It's not a big stretch.
 
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A lot of people didn't really know what they were voting for with Carter or Reagan for that matter - they were just reacting and rolling dice.

Same is true in this election.

I was watching PBS doc on Carter - he and Obama sound the same.

Obama is more radical though and doesnt even like the US.
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You say some pretty radical shit yourself.

Where's your proof the man doesn't like the U.S.?

He isn't President yet.

Bush on the other hand we have proof he hates this country by what he has done to it.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A lot of people didn't really know what they were voting for with Carter or Reagan for that matter - they were just reacting and rolling dice.

Same is true in this election.

I was watching PBS doc on Carter - he and Obama sound the same.

Obama is more radical though and doesnt even like the US.
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You say some pretty radical shit yourself.

Where's your proof the man doesn't like the U.S.?

He isn't President yet.

Bush on the other hand we have proof he hates this country by what he has done to it.
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Butterbean doesn't need proof, his tin hat gives him all the support he needs.
 
Originally posted by: T2T III
For years and years, I'm still wondering why such an event happened? Granted, Gerald Ford wasn't much of a better competitor. But, Jimmy Carter?
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1976 was the first Presidential election after Nixon's Waltergate scandal. It would have been really hard for the Democrats to not win the White House.

 
the most fundamental reason is that -- despite Mr. Carter's ambivalence in some areas and his vagueness in others -- he and Senator Mondale have demonstrated... a humanitarian, socially oriented, essentially liberal approach to most major questions of domestic and foreign policy... the challenger represents a 'new spirit,' as he put it in the third debate Friday night, while the incumbent is weighted down by th burden of the past and has little vision of the future.

in his choice of senator mondale as his running mate, Governor Carter unmistakably indicated the direction of his political thinking; he picked a man of well-defined progressive philosophy cleary capable of succeeding him in the presidency. the contrast with Mr. Ford's choice of running mate is too painful to dwell upon. but it must be said that in his selection of the man to succeed him should that be necessary, Mr. Ford has inexusably put the country at risk.
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http://graphics8.nytimes.com/p...timeline/carter-76.pdf
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
the most fundamental reason is that -- despite Mr. Carter's ambivalence in some areas and his vagueness in others -- he and Senator Mondale have demonstrated... a humanitarian, socially oriented, essentially liberal approach to most major questions of domestic and foreign policy... the challenger represents a 'new spirit,' as he put it in the third debate Friday night, while the incumbent is weighted down by th burden of the past and has little vision of the future.
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If this is what liberals are hoping for with Obama and Biden, then God help this country. Yes, let's all just get together and hold hands, get along, and sing "Kumbaya".

Instead how about this: Wake the fvck up people! Spend less, save more, achieve more, demand more of yourselves, take care of your family, and leave the world in a better place than you received it.
 
WTF was America thinking of when Bush Jr. was voted in as President a second time?

Much better question.
 
Originally posted by: brencat
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Spend less, save more, achieve more, demand more of yourselves, take care of your family, and leave the world in a better place than you received it.
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I agree. This is why I support obama. The repugs seem to want to destroy things and use things up.
 
I watched recent American Experience episode on Gerald Ford and Republican National Convention that year was apparently really divided, and even after Ford was nominated, a lot of people thought they nominated the wrong guy (should have chosen Reagan).

So, it sounds like was able to squeak by a very divided Republican Party. IIRC, Carter was an evangelical Christian from the south, too.

 
Originally posted by: Budmantom
I have a feeling after Barrack Hussein Obama people will be wishing for Jimmy Carter.
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Interesting thought.

You think things will really be that bad. I agree they'll be bad but wouldn't wish carter on anyone.
 
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: brencat
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Spend less, save more, achieve more, demand more of yourselves, take care of your family, and leave the world in a better place than you received it.
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I agree. This is why I support obama. The repugs seem to want to destroy things and use things up.
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I am a Republican and I have never felt that way. And neither have any of our Republican friends either.

Curious that my in-laws who are U.S. citizens but were born in Spain (recently retired and moved to the U.S. again to be near us & grandchildren) intensely disliked living in a Socialist country for many reasons. But the biggest was a lack of sense of JUSTICE. Not so much from a legal sense (although there is a lot of corruption there with Zapatero) but from an economic sense -- work hard, but taxes take it away to serve the public good.

All of you hoping for a liberal sweep in November...be careful what you wish for. I prefer to be on my own with the chance of being poor or homeless, than to work my ass off with little to show after taxes take it away.

Obama may have an idea that $250k is the right income limit before more taxes kick in, but I believe over time his spending plans will necessitate a lowering of this tax threshold to an unacceptable level below $200k. I live and work in the NYC metro area and it's fairly easy to cross the $250k threshold given cost of living is so high and thus so is family total comp. It's not Obama I'm worried about -- I actually think he's a decent man. It's his party...the liberal Pelosi/Reid/Kennedy wing that comes with him that scares me.
 
Originally posted by: brencat
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: brencat
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Spend less, save more, achieve more, demand more of yourselves, take care of your family, and leave the world in a better place than you received it.
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I agree. This is why I support obama. The repugs seem to want to destroy things and use things up.
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I am a Republican and I have never felt that way. And neither have any of our Republican friends either.

Curious that my in-laws who are U.S. citizens but were born in Spain (recently retired and moved to the U.S. again to be near us & grandchildren) intensely disliked living in a Socialist country for many reasons. But the biggest was a lack of sense of JUSTICE. Not so much from a legal sense (although there is a lot of corruption there with Zapatero) but from an economic sense -- work hard, but taxes take it away to serve the public good.

All of you hoping for a liberal sweep in November...be careful what you wish for. I prefer to be on my own with the chance of being poor or homeless, than to work my ass off with little to show after taxes take it away.

Obama may have an idea that $250k is the right income limit before more taxes kick in, but I believe over time his spending plans will necessitate a lowering of this tax threshold to an unacceptable level below $200k. I live and work in the NYC metro area and it's fairly easy to cross the $250k threshold given cost of living is so high and thus so is family total comp. It's not Obama I'm worried about -- I actually think he's a decent man. It's his party...the liberal Pelosi/Reid/Kennedy wing that comes with him that scares me.
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Yes, the left-wingnuts will need to be kept in check just like the right-wingnuts have been. But, the right-wingnuts haven't really been kept in check the last eight years. Oh well, I'm not going to base what's decent on repug values.

The thing about repug values is that they can be broken into two categories: 1) what they preach and 2) what they actually practice. I'm base my comments on what they practice.

It's damn curious bringing up carter - he's the one responsible for injecting the current round of religion into politics.
 
Originally posted by: Budmantom
I have a feeling after Barrack Hussein Obama people will be wishing for Jimmy Carter.
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You must mean James Earl Carter, try to be a little more consistent in your bigotry.
 
Originally posted by: T2T III
For years and years, I'm still wondering why such an event happened? Granted, Gerald Ford wasn't much of a better competitor. But, Jimmy Carter?
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The country got tired of GOP's and would try anything just like what they are trying to do right now with the Bush's administration! As always, history always repeats itself!
 
Originally posted by: techs
WTF was America thinking of when Bush Jr. was voted in as President a second time?

Much better question.
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I see them swimming again "red herrings"!
 
Originally posted by: brencat
Instead how about this: Wake the fvck up people! Spend less, save more, achieve more, demand more of yourselves, take care of your family, and leave the world in a better place than you received it.
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Why do that when you can vote for the guy who wants to "spread the wealth around"?



 
Originally posted by: T2T III
For years and years, I'm still wondering why such an event happened? Granted, Gerald Ford wasn't much of a better competitor. But, Jimmy Carter?
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But, but, but, Jimmy was a born again cHRisTIaN just like Georgy!
HUMM?? YA! That must explain it then!
 
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