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Looking at a new small SUV...

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Jumpem

Lifer
The standard 2.5L gets 20/26. The turbo gets 19/24 and uses premium.

Oh, and the turbo costs ~$3k more. Either will be a step down from the ~36mpg I get right now though.


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>Oh, and the turbo costs ~$3k more.

Even after gas goes back to $4? 😕

I have a supercharger myself and I do like it, but I do get about 23 city after taking certain steps.

Im also about to get rid of the car since its already 9 years old. :shocked:
 
Originally posted by: lokiju
I went with the standard on my "09 Forester
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That's what we were looking at. We are having trouble deciding what to go with. The 2.5X would be a more practical decision, but we don't want to have buyer's remorse at not getting the XT.
 
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: Oil
What is the HP and torque difference?
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170/170 vs. 224/226.
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Well, sounds like you want the XT, so admit the old "you know you want to" thang and just get it already.

Otherwise, make the nice (and reasonably desperate) Subbie salesman let you take an demo X for an extended spin without him (all they should say is "the gas is on you") and after an hour of all the mixed driving you can stand, decide for yourself whether you can live with such a stolidly plebiain conveyance . . . you, renowned boy racer and one-time would-be master of the universe. 😉
 
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: lokiju
I went with the standard on my "09 Forester
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That's what we were looking at. We are having trouble deciding what to go with. The 2.5X would be a more practical decision, but we don't want to have buyer's remorse at not getting the XT.
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Part of me wishes I had the turbo just for the fun factor but it's plenty "peppy" with the standard.

I have the premium fwiw.

Here's my take on it if you're interested.
 
Originally posted by: Jumpem
The standard 2.5L gets 20/26. The turbo gets 19/24 and uses premium.

Oh, and the turbo costs ~$3k more. Either will be a step down from the ~36mpg I get right now though.
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Step it up, Turbo-Diesel
 
Just go without the turbo. It's not like it's a race car. It's cheaper, you get better gas mileage, you don't use premium, and the turbo will cost you more in the long run.
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Well, sounds like you want the XT, so admit the old "you know you want to" thang and just get it already.

Otherwise, make the nice (and reasonably desperate) Subbie salesman let you take an demo X for an extended spin without him (all they should say is "the gas is on you") and after an hour of all the mixed driving you can stand, decide for yourself whether you can live with such a stolidly plebiain conveyance . . . you, renowned boy racer and one-time would-be master of the universe. 😉
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Well, I do want it, but it adds a bit to the payment, and we drive 30k a year, so the fuel would add up. But it would be just one car payment between thwe two of us.

And the Subaru dealer here doesn't even send some one along for test drives. All of the cars on the lot are unlocked with the keys in them. They hand you a dealer plate with a magnet and tell you go drive as many of whatever you want. I would like to take a nice half hour plus test drive including a little highway stretch, but don't if that would be pushing it.
 
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
30% more torque?

you can't not get the turbo, that's a no-brainer
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It was peppy. The normal 2.5L Outback I drove was slow. Seemed a tad more sluggish than my Fit. We haven't tried a non-turbo Forester yet, and that is a little bit lighter than the Outback.
 
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: quakefiend420
30% more torque?

you can't not get the turbo, that's a no-brainer
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It was peppy. The normal 2.5L Outback I drove was slow. Seemed a tad more sluggish than my Fit. We haven't tried a non-turbo Forester yet, and that is a little bit lighter than the Outback.
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wise man say when given the option between forced induction and atmospheric pressure one must always choose boost
 
A couple more data points:

Forester 2.5X: $540 payment + $191 fuel = $731.
Forester 2.5XT: $623 payment + $228 fuel = $851.
 
Originally posted by: Jumpem
A couple more data points:

Forester 2.5X: $540 payment + $191 fuel = $731.
Forester 2.5XT: $623 payment + $228 fuel = $851.
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It's a no brainer, go for the base engine. Also that's not counting long term maintenance that you may have to do with the turbo and the things it has to go with it. Is the insurance the same on both models as well?
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: Jumpem
A couple more data points:

Forester 2.5X: $540 payment + $191 fuel = $731.
Forester 2.5XT: $623 payment + $228 fuel = $851.
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It's a no brainer, go for the base engine. Also that's not counting long term maintenance that you may have to do with the turbo and the things it has to go with it. Is the insurance the same on both models as well?
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120 bucks a month to not drive a turd...pretty easy decision

of course my daily driver does a quarter in the low 11's, so maybe i'm a bit biased
 
Originally posted by: zerocool84
It's a no brainer, go for the base engine. Also that's not counting long term maintenance that you may have to do with the turbo and the things it has to go with it. Is the insurance the same on both models as well?
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I haven't looked into insurance yet, but it doesn't seem to vary much (at least with my agent). It always seems to stay in the $600-650 range on all of the cars I have had in the past few years.
 
Originally posted by: Jumpem
A couple more data points:

Forester 2.5X: $540 payment + $191 fuel = $731.
Forester 2.5XT: $623 payment + $228 fuel = $851.
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What kind of loan are you doing? 3 years?

That's pretty high.
 
Originally posted by: lokiju
What kind of loan are you doing? 3 years?

That's pretty high.
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48 month. We had been doing 60 months so far, but given how much we drive the payments don't keep up with the deprecitation. I think a 48 month would keep up.
 
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