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Looked at some TV's at BB today...

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mharr7

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So I went there to check out the new Panasonic G10. They actually had the new G10 set up in their little theater setup where they advertise geek squad installation. So they have a Bluray demo disc, playing various scenes from diff movies. Also had a nice Klipsh audio system set up.

Well my question is, why did it look so grainy? I mean the colors were nice, and it looked good, all except for it being way too grainy IMO. It looked comparable to my old 27"
CRT tv with normal cable broadcast....that bad... Xmen 3 was the worst. I actually thought they were showing normal def or something, but on the bottom right it said Blu-ray HD. U571 wasn't as bad, but was still grainy.

Did they have a bad hook up, or is that just how they look? Is that taken care of with calibration or something?
I noticed alot of the TV's up on the walls were the same way. The only ones that weren't were the Samsung LED and the sony setup where they were playing Demo discs(I know the demo discs are way better looking than movies)....those looked crystal clear.

Thanks for any insight, ive never owned an LCD or Plasma, just started looking recently.
 
Some movies are just grainy on purpose.

Demo discs often crop movies to make them 16:9 and do other edits to make them look as appealing as possible.
 
Originally posted by: WraithETC
Some movies are just grainy on purpose.

Demo discs often crop movies to make them 16:9 and do other edits to make them look as appealing as possible.
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I do understand that some Bluray's look really bad, while others are excellent quality. I've seen taht page that rates them all. But, that being the case, why would they choose crappy quality movies to broadcast on a tv they're trying to get you to buy and have them come set up, so you can enjoy it....

I just don't get it...
 
Could be poor cabling, bad calibration, or crappy discs. X-men 3 generally gets good reviews for BD quality, so my guess is a combination of some.
 
Originally posted by: marketsons1985
Could be poor cabling, bad calibration, or crappy discs. X-men 3 generally gets good reviews for BD quality, so my guess is a combination of some.
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Ya I really think it was. I did some more reading over on avsforums and pretty much people were saying its going to look better when you get home...I'm pretty sure they just had a shitty source or something.
 
I've seen the G10 in three stores and didn't notice any graininess, at least nothing more noticeable than any other TV.
 
Originally posted by: aphex
I've seen the G10 in three stores and didn't notice any graininess, at least nothing more noticeable than any other TV.
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Thats assuring...musta been the store then...
 
Originally posted by: mharr7
Originally posted by: WraithETC
Some movies are just grainy on purpose.

Demo discs often crop movies to make them 16:9 and do other edits to make them look as appealing as possible.
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I do understand that some Bluray's look really bad, while others are excellent quality. I've seen taht page that rates them all. But, that being the case, why would they choose crappy quality movies to broadcast on a tv they're trying to get you to buy and have them come set up, so you can enjoy it....

I just don't get it...
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Grainy != bad
 
Well most stores use some kind of distribution system and most are component (better than coax that they used to use..) and probably use bad distribution products and you get some interference.

ORR... The movie was grainy on purpose to give a grainy effect.
 
Combination of natural film grain, visual noise inherent to plasmas, and probably issues with splitting the feed among at least 20 televisions.
 
Well, there shouldn't be distribution if the G10 is in the place I think mharr7 was, the mini HT that sits directly behind the sales desk in the HT department. All the stores around me have a single panny plasma hooked up directly to a panny Blu-Ray player and Klipsch HT.
 
The G10 is just grainy compared to the other HDTVs, but Panasonics have always had that problem. Fortunately for you, the Pioneer 5020s are back in stock online at BB for $1999. And at that price, there should be no question which set you should get. Now I'm assuming you're looking at 50" models, so if you're not, never mind about the 5020.
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
The G10 is just grainy compared to the other HDTVs, but Panasonics have always had that problem. Fortunately for you, the Pioneer 5020s are back in stock online at BB for $1999. And at that price, there should be no question which set you should get. Now I'm assuming you're looking at 50" models, so if you're not, never mind about the 5020.
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Ya, I wasn't planning on buying the tv for another 2 months or so(thats when I'll be moving out into my own place). Not sure if I should get the 5020 now while I can, or wait the 2 months, and possibly pick the G10 or something to the like up for cheaper.

Also, if I buy from BB, I have to pay taxes....if I order online, no tax...BUT, I don't know if I feel comfortable ordering a plasma online and getting it shipped... hmmm
 
Originally posted by: mharr7
Ya, I wasn't planning on buying the tv for another 2 months or so(thats when I'll be moving out into my own place). Not sure if I should get the 5020 now while I can, or wait the 2 months, and possibly pick the G10 or something to the like up for cheaper.

Also, if I buy from BB, I have to pay taxes....if I order online, no tax...BUT, I don't know if I feel comfortable ordering a plasma online and getting it shipped... hmmm
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I'd say passing up on the 5020 now would be a decision I think you'll regret. Is the G10 cheaper? Yes. Is it close to the 5020 PQ and performance wise? IMO, HELL NO! I consider the 5020 priced at $1999 a steal. And at that price, I don't think they will last long at all.
 
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: mharr7
Ya, I wasn't planning on buying the tv for another 2 months or so(thats when I'll be moving out into my own place). Not sure if I should get the 5020 now while I can, or wait the 2 months, and possibly pick the G10 or something to the like up for cheaper.

Also, if I buy from BB, I have to pay taxes....if I order online, no tax...BUT, I don't know if I feel comfortable ordering a plasma online and getting it shipped... hmmm
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I'd say passing up on the 5020 now would be a decision I think you'll regret. Is the G10 cheaper? Yes. Is it close to the 5020 PQ and performance wise? IMO, HELL NO! I consider the 5020 priced at $1999 a steal. And at that price, I don't think they will last long at all.
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Just out of curiosity, do you own a Kuro? If not, have you/do you own another plasma/lcd?

 
Originally posted by: mharr7
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: mharr7
Ya, I wasn't planning on buying the tv for another 2 months or so(thats when I'll be moving out into my own place). Not sure if I should get the 5020 now while I can, or wait the 2 months, and possibly pick the G10 or something to the like up for cheaper.

Also, if I buy from BB, I have to pay taxes....if I order online, no tax...BUT, I don't know if I feel comfortable ordering a plasma online and getting it shipped... hmmm
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I'd say passing up on the 5020 now would be a decision I think you'll regret. Is the G10 cheaper? Yes. Is it close to the 5020 PQ and performance wise? IMO, HELL NO! I consider the 5020 priced at $1999 a steal. And at that price, I don't think they will last long at all.
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Just out of curiosity, do you own a Kuro? If not, have you/do you own another plasma/lcd?
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Yes I do own a Kuro (Pioneer Elite 141 to be exact). I've also recommended Samsung LCDs and DLPs to people depending on what they were looking for. However, this was a time when Pioneer displays were way more expensive than the other HDTVs. Now at $1999 for a 50" 9G Kuro, I just think it is a no brainer. Recently I helped someone pick out a display and the choices were, Pioneer 5020, Samsung 55" 7100 LCD and Panasonic 50" G10. The Samsung LCD believe it or not, was the most expensive. But it was also 55" compared to 50" like the other TVs we were looking at. Given that the Sasmung was out of her budget, we crossed that one off the list immediately (It looked great though). The G10, well it just didn't compare to the 5020. It was just a night and day difference (and yes, there was graininess were the 5020 showed none). So she picked up the 5020, took it home and it looked GREAT! Beautiful display.
 
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