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look at this guy, kung fu ain't kidding..

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Hmm . . . if I'm correct, military forces don't focus so much on hand-to-hand combat, even in the elite units. And as for the guy who thinks power will win everytime . . . well, good luck
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Anyhoo, that's not "kung fu", not even "wushu" - The guy in the mpg's this guy, BTW - he's in "competitive Karate" and is doing freeforms. The Japanese equivalent of Wushu, I suppose.

I'd say he's more of a dancer then a fighter (impressive nontheless), but what do I know? 😉
 
I never said that dude can kick ass but I am saying things he do is impressive, I doubt the Eliteforce dude can do what that kid does with his 5'8 and 280lbs of muscle.. I just don't know why the dude insist that he's unbeatable.. how about a fight of your fellow eliteforce buddies? if you are just saying kungfu, TKD, karate or wushu are nothing, sorry dude, there are no more arguement if you can't even take a lose.
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: manuelku
I think he probably can jack the whole damn car up without using anything else..

cliff note:
so kung fu, karate, TKD and other fighting style = focus at speed and trying to disable opponent or hit in the weakness
and SnapIT being in the eliteforce, muscule man, body builder and unbeatable dude claims that he can "ficking" kill someone once he caught the person regardless that he got disabled before he did so.

And bringing up my diabilites helps in what way?

Oh, you are constipated again someone packed your mud too tight?

well, moron, expect it, lot's of nights doing the nasty with loads of men will make that thappen....

He didn't mention you having any "diabilites." What he meant is that it will be hard for you to rip Jackie Chans arms off after he makes your arms completely useless.
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I've never seen so many threats from a large, stupid, "I'm gonna kick your ass" man in one thread before. "Duuhhh uhh I'm gonna rip your arms out duhhh uhhhhhh." Yeah, enjoy your mediocre life, Moose.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead the fvcking thread, what was i supposed to do...


Just because you will give your butt up all the time, i won't..

Little one... i cannot believe how jealous you guys get... LMAO...

Not jealousy. I don't want to be big, and if I wanted to, I could drastically increase muscle mass if not height. And I have no problem with you being able to kick asses, but you posted about it like 10 times. For Christ's sake.
 
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: manuelku
I think he probably can jack the whole damn car up without using anything else..

cliff note:
so kung fu, karate, TKD and other fighting style = focus at speed and trying to disable opponent or hit in the weakness
and SnapIT being in the eliteforce, muscule man, body builder and unbeatable dude claims that he can "ficking" kill someone once he caught the person regardless that he got disabled before he did so.

And bringing up my diabilites helps in what way?

Oh, you are constipated again someone packed your mud too tight?

well, moron, expect it, lot's of nights doing the nasty with loads of men will make that thappen....

He didn't mention you having any "diabilites." What he meant is that it will be hard for you to rip Jackie Chans arms off after he makes your arms completely useless.

Jackie chan? a movie star who know how to kick so it looks good... you have got to be kiddin...
 
A couple of other considerations I forgot to mention:

Length of time fighting: A person who has been fighting for 40 years will have more experience than somebody who's been fighting for 20. While they may be older and weaker, they will have an advantage in reading body language, and will be better able to anticipate attacks.

Also, most martial artists are quick to acknowledge that no one form is superior. A master in one style may easily be taken unawares by a master of another style, simply because fighting methods are so diverse. Ideally, the best way would be to train in all forms, and take the best of each. Unfortunately, life is only so long... 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Metalloid15
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: manuelku
I think he probably can jack the whole damn car up without using anything else..

cliff note:
so kung fu, karate, TKD and other fighting style = focus at speed and trying to disable opponent or hit in the weakness
and SnapIT being in the eliteforce, muscule man, body builder and unbeatable dude claims that he can "ficking" kill someone once he caught the person regardless that he got disabled before he did so.

And bringing up my diabilites helps in what way?

Oh, you are constipated again someone packed your mud too tight?

well, moron, expect it, lot's of nights doing the nasty with loads of men will make that thappen....

He didn't mention you having any "diabilites." What he meant is that it will be hard for you to rip Jackie Chans arms off after he makes your arms completely useless.

Jackie chan? a movie star who know how to kick so it looks good... you have got to be kiddin...

Jacke chan, harrison ford, maddona...well, one of the would win, guss who...
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: dtyn
Originally posted by: SnapIT
So? kick me, hit me, i'll smile and when i get a hold of you, you are dead meat... You may all buy into this BS, but size over swiftness will work every day of the week, if you are just big enough...

Really? So if I'm twice as fast as you are, and I pull off a nice knife strike to your larynx, you're just going to stand there and take it like a "big man." I disagree, people give size way more credit than it deserves. If you know what you are doing, speed is more important. Remember, power = speed x mass. That being said, that guy was obviously more of an acrobat than a martial artist. Flashy, high flying kicks will get you nowhere in a fight.

Wow, aren't you real heavy and all "knife strike" huh?

Yup, if you were to cut my throat you MIGHT get out of the fight without every bone in you body broken, that is, if i do not get a grip on your body, then you are sold out... i will rip your fvcking elbow apart, and crack your shoulder...

You want to fight the meanest idiot to ever have faced this earth, fight me, and you can jump around as much as you wish....


So are you saying you could take Jet Li?
 
Originally posted by: palad
A couple of other considerations I forgot to mention:

Length of time fighting: A person who has been fighting for 40 years will have more experience than somebody who's been fighting for 20. While they may be older and weaker, they will have an advantage in reading body language, and will be better able to anticipate attacks.

Also, most martial artists are quick to acknowledge that no one form is superior. A master in one style may easily be taken unawares by a master of another style, simply because fighting methods are so diverse. Ideally, the best way would be to train in all forms, and take the best of each. Unfortunately, life is only so long... 🙂

Well then, as i am pretty old... i win.. 😀
 
jackie chan is getting old, he's not in real power. try jet li, he is one tough guy.. if bruce lee is still alive, I really want to see who will win
 
Originally posted by: manuelku
jackie chan is getting old, he's not in real power. try jet li, he is one tough guy.. if bruce lee is still alive, I really want to see who will win

Jet lee can fly... oooh, how great his movies are, he flyes from place to place....

Honestly jet li sucks... BIGTIME!
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: manuelku
jackie chan is getting old, he's not in real power. try jet li, he is one tough guy.. if bruce lee is still alive, I really want to see who will win

Jet lee can fly... oooh, how great his movies are, he flyes from place to place....

Honestly jet li sucks... BIGTIME!

Yes... we know you're a real hero by now. Do you really still need to flex those e-muscles of yours?
 
Originally posted by: manuelku
I never said that dude can kick ass but I am saying things he do is impressive, I doubt the Eliteforce dude can do what that kid does with his 5'8 and 280lbs of muscle.. I just don't know why the dude insist that he's unbeatable.. how about a fight of your fellow eliteforce buddies? if you are just saying kungfu, TKD, karate or wushu are nothing, sorry dude, there are no more arguement if you can't even take a lose.

Meh? Are you talking to me? :Q First of all, I did admit that it was impressive (Whether it is useful or not is debatable) Uh, what do you mean when you say "if you are just saying kungfu, TKD, karate or wushu are nothing"? What's nothing? Let's just say that I disagree with competitive martial arts - I wouldn't consider it a martial art.

First of all, I do realize that for a martial art to survive in this world with the existance of the "great equalizer", the next logical step would for the preservation of martial arts would be to go "commercial", i.e. competitions and such.

You see a similar (but different) progression in Japan -the older styles in Japan usually have names that end with "-jitsu", which the definitions escape me at this point, but the point of those styles were for pure survival no matter what the cost. In contrast, the newer styles in Japan (within the last ~200 years), if you see, tend to have a name that ends with "-do", that denotes "the way" or "the path", i.e. Judo, Aikido, and even some styles of karate. The aims of those styles are to "cultivate the person" while losing some of their effeciency in their style - a necessary undertaking for martial arts to survive in. Let's look at Judo, for instance - the meaning of "Judo" is "gentle way" and it is originally a derivative of Jujitsu, a common form of martial art which has many techniques which are permanently damaging - Judo, however has aims of subding the enemy while never permanently injuring them - DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?

Let's, for instance, take that muscle dude - say I got him in a situation (if you're reading this muscledude, it's because I was lucky/because this is fictitious 😉 ) where I would want to defend myself against future attacks, i.e. subdue him - instead of simply breaking his **** (too violent for my tastes to mention), I'd have to go through the hassle of throwing him around and pinning him while his buddies gather around - sound efficient to you?

Same thing witht he other styles of today - they're modernizing in order to survive, but at the same time, they're losing their true purpose as a consequence - which I personally do not agree with, but I can respect the competitors and participants in the sport, just don't expect me to call them anything other than "athletes".

But then again, what do I know? 🙂

EDIT
FYI, there are some badass martial arts competitors/practical martial arts the are heavy into competitions - Muay Thai, KyoKyuShinKai, Boxing - but no way in hell is what that guy doing anything near these styles.
 
if I see you in movie I can think that you fly from one place to and other.. and I think you will SUCK BIGTIME as well.. please, if you have never fight or even seen him in reality, don't talk sh*t of somebody. good thread people 🙂 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: manuelku
jackie chan is getting old, he's not in real power. try jet li, he is one tough guy.. if bruce lee is still alive, I really want to see who will win

Jet lee can fly... oooh, how great his movies are, he flyes from place to place....

Honestly jet li sucks... BIGTIME!

Yes... we know you're a real hero by now. Do you really still need to flex those e-muscles of yours?

But friggin PUUUHLEAAASE, you cannot compare Jet Li "fly by's" with the real stuff, bruce was great jackie, well, he is great at what höe does... but to compare these two to the Jet Li Flying stuff... you have GOT to be kidding me...
 
Originally posted by: palad
A couple of other considerations I forgot to mention:

Length of time fighting: A person who has been fighting for 40 years will have more experience than somebody who's been fighting for 20. While they may be older and weaker, they will have an advantage in reading body language, and will be better able to anticipate attacks.

Also, most martial artists are quick to acknowledge that no one form is superior. A master in one style may easily be taken unawares by a master of another style, simply because fighting methods are so diverse. Ideally, the best way would be to train in all forms, and take the best of each. Unfortunately, life is only so long... 🙂



😕 Is that even possible? How?
 
Originally posted by: Jehovah
Originally posted by: manuelku
I never said that dude can kick ass but I am saying things he do is impressive, I doubt the Eliteforce dude can do what that kid does with his 5'8 and 280lbs of muscle.. I just don't know why the dude insist that he's unbeatable.. how about a fight of your fellow eliteforce buddies? if you are just saying kungfu, TKD, karate or wushu are nothing, sorry dude, there are no more arguement if you can't even take a lose.

Meh? Are you talking to me? :Q First of all, I did admit that it was impressive (Whether it is useful or not is debatable) Uh, what do you mean when you say "if you are just saying kungfu, TKD, karate or wushu are nothing"? What's nothing? Let's just say that I disagree with competitive martial arts - I wouldn't consider it a martial art.

First of all, I do realize that for a martial art to survive in this world with the existance of the "great equalizer", the next logical step would for the preservation of martial arts would be to go "commercial", i.e. competitions and such.

You see a similar (but different) progression in Japan -the older styles in Japan usually have names that end with "-jitsu", which the definitions escape me at this point, but the point of those styles were for pure survival no matter what the cost. In contrast, the newer styles in Japan (within the last ~200 years), if you see, tend to have a name that ends with "-do", that denotes "the way" or "the path", i.e. Judo, Aikido, and even some styles of karate. The aims of those styles are to "cultivate the person" while losing some of their effeciency in their style - a necessary undertaking for martial arts to survive in. Let's look at Judo, for instance - the meaning of "Judo" is "gentle way" and it is originally a derivative of Jujitsu, a common form of martial art which has many techniques which are permanently damaging - Judo, however has aims of subding the enemy while never permanently injuring them - DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?

Let's, for instance, take that muscle dude - say I got him in a situation (if you're reading this muscledude, it's because I was lucky/because this is fictitious 😉 ) where I would want to defend myself against future attacks, i.e. subdue him - instead of simply breaking his **** (too violent for my tastes to mention), I'd have to go through the hassle of throwing him around and pinning him while his buddies gather around - sound efficient to you?

Same thing witht he other styles of today - they're modernizing in order to survive, but at the same time, they're losing their true purpose as a consequence - which I personally do not agree with, but I can respect the competitors and participants in the sport, just don't expect me to call them anything other than "athletes".

But then again, what do I know? 🙂

I still say that size beats speed... so... forget it, you would get your ass kicked....

That and i trained krav maga... that might have helped a bit... and i was in th special forces too, linx can confirm it...

but, you could probablly take me... hehe.. i would love you to try...
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Jehovah

Let's, for instance, take that muscle dude - say I got him in a situation (if you're reading this muscledude, it's because I was lucky/because this is fictitious 😉 ) where I would want to defend myself against future attacks, i.e. subdue him - instead of simply breaking his **** (too violent for my tastes to mention), I'd have to go through the hassle of throwing him around and pinning him while his buddies gather around - sound efficient to you?

But then again, what do I know? 🙂

I still say that size beats speed... so... forget it, you would get your ass kicked....

That and i trained krav maga... that might have helped a bit... and i was in th special forces too, linx can confirm it...

but, you could probablly take me... hehe.. i would love you to try...

Meh - I'd say both speed and power take a backseat to proper technique - if you do the proper technique, speed and power follow - power from the proper structure of your attack, and speed from the proper set-up of the technique(s). Anyhoo, as a side note - AIEEEE! PLEASE DON'T HURT ME! 🙂

<----- Cowardly fish
 
I sent my link around, this thread died... what would you say? considering (which is mentioned in the linx) that i am an elite soldier, could i take a little fast idiot?

OR 25 of them... small idiots... i would get my face slapped lots of times, but they would eventuallly all be in custody,...
 
Bob Sapp (6'4 350lbs) got beat by smaller fighters in Pride and K1. Size and strength will lose to technique. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
I sent my link around, this thread died... what would you say? considering (which is mentioned in the linx) that i am an elite soldier, could i take a little fast idiot?

OR 25 of them... small idiots... i would get my face slapped lots of times, but they would eventuallly all be in custody,...

What link? 😕 Anyhow, let me just warn ya: if you say something like "Kung Fu" or "Karate", that's a pretty broad term there - Kung Fu have well over 3000 styles, with much of them still preserving their "survival no matter what" instincts. A lot of them are so crazy in how they train themselves I'd be one of the last people to ever piss them off, IMO. And as for Karate, same thing - like I said, KyoKuShinKai, a style of Karate, has my respect - the founder of the style (it's a fairly recent style) fought and killed many full sized bulls, and I've seen pictures of one of the practitioners (a big mofo) fighting and beating a bear once! :Q It's bad to generalize - especially in martial arts. 😉
 
Originally posted by: jooksing
Bob Sapp (6'4 350lbs) got beat by smaller fighters in Pride and K1. Size and strength will lose to technique. 🙂

Did you see the Bob Sapp vs Mirco Filipovic fight on March 28th?

Here's a link if you haven't, it's a good fight! Text
 
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