Longhorn driver issues

[SunnyD]

I finally managed to download both discs of Longhorn Beta 3, but I'm having an issue on install. I have a machine with an Intel chipset, and immediately on selecting install Longhorn detects devices, etc. and comes back saying it cannot find the driver for the USB/DVD Device. I downloaded the Vista x64 drivers for Intel chipset, and none of the items in there help.

Anyone know where to find actual Longhorn 64 drivers?

 

[SunnyD]

Alright, let's try it from this angle then... has ANYONE successfully installed Longhorn Beta 3 x64 from a clean install?

 

[DasFox]

Longhorn, why would anyone be bothering with this, when Vista is now a final product.

Go play with the latest version of Vista....

ALOHA

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: DasFox
Longhorn, why would anyone be bothering with this, when Vista is now a final product.
Go play with the latest version of Vista....
ALOHA

Dasfox: He is refering to Longhorn Server which is still in beta, not Longhorn client which became Vista...

SunnyD: This is a clean machine install, not in a virutal machine right? I've installed ok, but I suspect the oddball from your post is the USB CD rom device. Is that natively bootable? Any chance you can put an ide cd rom drive on that box to get you thru the install?

 

[stash]

Longhorn, why would anyone be bothering with this, when Vista is now a final product.

Uh because they are completely different products, and some people might want to test, you know, server applications?

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: DasFox
Longhorn, why would anyone be bothering with this, when Vista is now a final product.
Go play with the latest version of Vista....
ALOHA

Dasfox: He is refering to Longhorn Server which is still in beta, not Longhorn client which became Vista...

SunnyD: This is a clean machine install, not in a virutal machine right? I've installed ok, but I suspect the oddball from your post is the USB CD rom device. Is that natively bootable? Any chance you can put an ide cd rom drive on that box to get you thru the install?

This is in a Dell USFF machine which uses the Dell D/Bay style drives. By the looks of the connector, it's an ATA interface. Unfortunately, the machine doesn't have a standard ATA port on it, and I don't have a USB DVD-ROM drive to test with either.

 

[bsobel]

This is in a Dell USFF machine which uses the Dell D/Bay style drives. By the looks of the connector, it's an ATA interface. Unfortunately, the machine doesn't have a standard ATA port on it, and I don't have a USB DVD-ROM drive to test with either.

Did you try to get the Vista driver for that device (it wouldnt be neccisarily the intel chipset drivers you'd need)

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: bsobel

This is in a Dell USFF machine which uses the Dell D/Bay style drives. By the looks of the connector, it's an ATA interface. Unfortunately, the machine doesn't have a standard ATA port on it, and I don't have a USB DVD-ROM drive to test with either.

Did you try to get the Vista driver for that device (it wouldnt be neccisarily the intel chipset drivers you'd need)

The Vista drivers (chipset) do the same thing. In fact, the Intel driver package has drivers for all of the OS's combined, both 32 and 64 bit.

 

[SunnyD]

Of all the odd things... I pulled a different DVD drive (the one from my work laptop) and popped it in, and it works fine. Again, physically a Dell D/Bay drive, but apparently the manufacturer of the drive must play into it.

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Of all the odd things... I pulled a different DVD drive (the one from my work laptop) and popped it in, and it works fine. Again, physically a Dell D/Bay drive, but apparently the manufacturer of the drive must play into it.

Weird. Nice you got it going. Please do bug this however.

 

[SunnyD]

I will personally comment on Longhorn right now... and this is a rough first draft.

With the DVD-ROM issue aside, I setup a 40GB partition, formatted, then went downstairs for dinner, came back and had a nice Vista-style login prompt. Everything installed without a hitch, and the new Server Config screen just plain ROCKS. Aside from not having Aero, it's fast, rather light weight (doesn't have Superfetch), and everything just appears to work.

Now I just need to get AD, IIS and Exchange 2007 installed on it and life will be good.

 

[stash]

Now I just need to get AD, IIS and Exchange 2007 installed on it and life will be good.

Exchange 2007 will not be supported on Longhorn until SP1 for Exchange.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: stash

Now I just need to get AD, IIS and Exchange 2007 installed on it and life will be good.

Exchange 2007 will not be supported on Longhorn until SP1 for Exchange.

Oh see, now that's just plain stupid. These last 3 or 4 releases from Microsoft have been totally idiotic in their support for their own products. I mean let's look at it shall we:

Exchange 2007 - requires a 64-bit OS... meaning a lot of companies will be slow on the uptake here as the bulk of their infrastructure will be 32-bit.
Vista - Idiot Microsoft thinking this will be a common release and cover businesses... um, I can't admin AD and Exchange properly from Vista because the tools don't work (adminpak installs and "works" but is buggy, and forget even trying to use ESM or the Exchange Add-Ins for ADUC in Vista SP1)
If I actually bothered to read the beta 1 and 2 notes for Longhorn, now knowing that companies are going to have to wait for Exchange 2007 SP1 before Longhorn is remotely useful...

I'm thinking all the gripe about AMD pushing back its products so they can get a full end-to-end launch is uncalled for now.

That said, Longhorn is pretty damn cool though.

 

[stash]

Oh see, now that's just plain stupid. These last 3 or 4 releases from Microsoft have been totally idiotic in their support for their own products. I mean let's look at it shall we:

From my perspective, working every day with customers, none of the issues you cite have slowed down the adoption of these products. I know of at least five US gov agencies that will be upgrading to Exchange 2007 within the next 6-12 months, and at least one that has been running it for several months. Contrary to the FUD in the media, Vista adoption in the US gov is happening, and in a big way.

I don't know how things are going outside of Public Sector, but those of us in DC are being kept quite busy.

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: stash

Oh see, now that's just plain stupid. These last 3 or 4 releases from Microsoft have been totally idiotic in their support for their own products. I mean let's look at it shall we:

From my perspective, working every day with customers, none of the issues you cite have slowed down the adoption of these products. I know of at least five US gov agencies that will be upgrading to Exchange 2007 within the next 6-12 months, and at least one that has been running it for several months. Contrary to the FUD in the media, Vista adoption in the US gov is happening, and in a big way.

I don't know how things are going outside of Public Sector, but those of us in DC are being kept quite busy.

I'm in Higher Ed/Public Sector... and I will admit we are in the process of Migrating to Exchange 2007 as I write this. Likely to roll out in August or so with it. I suppose I should look at it from the standpoint that I will be busy for the next two years or so.