Longer video of the head-on wreck from the funny picture thread

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Lifer
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Most likely? Again, defensive driving 101. The FIRST thing you are taught is to always have an out. You never drive with someone blocking your out. The copped quickly passed the car on the right side of him, and appeared to have left room. Also, you can't really see if there are any cars coming from the other lane until after the white truck swerves. Not much time to assess the amount of oncoming traffic. That's why you're taught to know your out before you need it. It really is the very first thing any driving instruction will teach you. There is no way he was counting on the oncoming lane as his out.

:rolleyes:

look, the cop was being defensive in not going right when there was a car there already. he went left because he saw there was no oncoming traffic and it was his safest bet. if there were cars to his left, he would have probably thrown his emergency brake on and taken his feet off the brake so his legs didn't shatter and prepared for impact.

defensive driving is taught so you can quickly assess your surroundings and take the best course of action in a split second. that's exactly what he did. defensive driving doesn't dictate being a moron and sticking to rules regardless of the outcome. you can't say "but according to the tenants of defensive driving, he should have gone right" when there's a fucking car to his right and it would have just blocked him into the path of the truck.

get your head outta your ass.


you can see that there are several cars in that lane waiting for the light to change at the beginning of the video. I think it's fair to assume that they are still there when the accident occurs, thus explaining why the cop reacts the way he does.

I also agree with others who suggest that the truck slamming into his driver's side door would probably be much worse, overall.

exactly
 
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thegimp03

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Good that both of them are alive. Looking at the bright side of things, it's also a good thing that Explorer ran into a cop in a Dodge Charger with a huge front-end rather than some lady and her 2 kids in a tin can Toyota Yaris or something along those lines..
 

RPD

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In order to avoid derailing that thread anymore, here is a longer video of the head-on collision from the dash-cam of the Deputy Sheriff's car.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5wvtuZopk&feature=player_embedded

http://www.news9.com/story/15303026/canine-unit-suv-tangle-in-head-on-collision-in-south-okc

08/23 update:
http://www.news9.com/story/15317215...fs-office-releases-new-video-of-deputys-crash

Now argue away on who did what wrong. :hmm:
Thank you :thumbsup:
 

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Most likely? Again, defensive driving 101. The FIRST thing you are taught is to always have an out. You never drive with someone blocking your out. The copped quickly passed the car on the right side of him, and appeared to have left room. Also, you can't really see if there are any cars coming from the other lane until after the white truck swerves. Not much time to assess the amount of oncoming traffic. That's why you're taught to know your out before you need it. It really is the very first thing any driving instruction will teach you. There is no way he was counting on the oncoming lane as his out.

There is often no "out". Reality driving 101.
 

Twista

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Could've been avoided if SUV's/large trucks weren't allowed on the road. You can't see SHIT around them or over them. Have it been a car he could've seen the other car coming in the wrong lane.


Flame Suit on.

#1 reason i hate driving behind pickups/trucks. You cant see the traffic in front of you!
 

Eos

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Could've been avoided if SUV's/large trucks weren't allowed on the road. You can't see SHIT around them or over them. Have it been a car he could've seen the other car coming in the wrong lane.


Flame Suit on.

#1 reason i hate driving behind pickups/trucks. You cant see the traffic in front of you!

Wider field of view for vehicle behind larger vehicles works too.
 

amdhunter

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Hahaha, I wonder what the drunk driver was thinking at the moment he realized he was going to run smack into a police cruiser?
 

Ichinisan

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Clearly the other guy was on the wrong side of the road and is at fault. But, why would the officer ever turn left to avoid that accident? The rule is to move right, always. It is drivers ed 101 training to turn right. Turning left might miss the first car, but now you are the one in the wrong lane going the wrong direction and you'll likely hit others.

If everyone did that, there would be far fewer accidents. It looked like there was plenty of room to the right. It may possibly have been avoided if he moved just like the white truck did. Or at worse be a slight swipe at the back of the vehicles.

Can you see if there was a car on his right? The fact that he didn't go right tells me that there was almost certainly another car blocking the officer from going that way.
 

mjrpes3

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I doubt there was a car to his right. He passes the red car 10 seconds before; it's pretty rare for someone to be bold enough to accelerate/pass a cop car that's going near the speed limit.

He went left because he didn't have enough time to go right and completely avoid the truck. He saved himself for serious injury.
 

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Good that both of them are alive. Looking at the bright side of things, it's also a good thing that Explorer ran into a cop in a Dodge Charger with a huge front-end rather than some lady and her 2 kids in a tin can Toyota Yaris or something along those lines..

You'd actually be amazed at how well a yaris will hold up in an accident. My wife's 2 door yaris was pancaked between a ford econo-van going 35-40mph and the grand cherokee she was behind at the stop light (she was stopped at the time, van driver didn't even hit the brakes). The trunk and engine compartment were pretty compressed, but the passenger compartment was intact (aside from airbags being deployed and glass from the rear window getting scattered everywhere). Modern vehicle safety is rather impressive. That said she has moved to a larger vehicle, in part because she'd rather have a slightly better safety buffer in a situation like that.
 

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Could've been avoided if SUV's/large trucks weren't allowed on the road. You can't see SHIT around them or over them. Have it been a car he could've seen the other car coming in the wrong lane.


Flame Suit on.

#1 reason i hate driving behind pickups/trucks. You cant see the traffic in front of you!

as was taught when i went to driving school, if you drive a car, you don't drive directly behind a truck, you drive a little to the side so you can see what's in front of them.
 

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I doubt there was a car to his right. He passes the red car 10 seconds before; it's pretty rare for someone to be bold enough to accelerate/pass a cop car that's going near the speed limit.

He went left because he didn't have enough time to go right and completely avoid the truck. He saved himself for serious injury.

Bumping into the back of a pickup because he couldn't stop in time would have been more serious?
 

Ichinisan

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I doubt there was a car to his right. He passes the red car 10 seconds before; it's pretty rare for someone to be bold enough to accelerate/pass a cop car that's going near the speed limit.

He went left because he didn't have enough time to go right and completely avoid the truck. He saved himself for serious injury.

The truck slowed before it veered-right and the cop slowed too, before he could even see the on-coming SUV. It's almost 100% certain that someone had already come up on his right.

Even if no one was directly to his right, he could see that they would be coming up fast, while the oncoming lane was empty.

Get it? Perspective.
 

mjrpes3

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The truck slowed before it veered-right and the cop slowed too, before he could even see the on-coming SUV. It's almost 100% certain that someone had already come up on his right.

Even if no one was directly to his right, he could see that they would be coming up fast, while the oncoming lane was empty.

Get it? Perspective.

Assumptions. We're all making them. We're all full of shit. But it keeps the threads long and circular.
 

SparkyJJO

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Ever think that maybe the cop went left on purpose to stop the guy? Sure he would have been playing the odds a bit. But say he was able to go right and totally avoid getting hit, that would leave the drunk dude to continue careening down the road to smash into somebody else.
 

blinblue

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I am not... DUI should be something that you take their license and car away for the rest of their life.

Fully agree with you there. However I don't wish death on the drunk, I wouldn't be very phased if he had died, but no sense in wishing for his death. But yeah, he should never drive again, he has proven very obviously that he is completely incapable of being trusted behind a vehicle.
 

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ATOT Professional Drivers
ATOT hates cops

This.

The cop had no time to react, and he would have been at greater risk for injury if he swerved right and got hit on the driver's side. It's unlikely that he would have hit anyone else in the lane to his left, because anyone with any sense would see the imminent accident in front of them and move over and/or slow down.
 

Miramonti

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This.

The cop had no time to react, and he would have been at greater risk for injury if he swerved right and got hit on the driver's side. It's unlikely that he would have hit anyone else in the lane to his left, because anyone with any sense would see the imminent accident in front of them and move over and/or slow down.

I thought the cop had plenty of time to react when he saw the pickup suddenly brake and veer right.

When I drive and can't see traffic ahead of car in front, and that car ahead suddenly brakes and veers, I hit the brakes and suddenly veer with it partially, hedging my risk. If I don't know if there is a car next to me, I may not veer but simply hit the brakes hard enough to avoid what the car ahead might be trying to avoid in the road.

Most of the time, the only reason a car suddenly brakes and veers like that is to avoid something...a blown tire, an animal, a jaywalker, or a car directly in front of it that slammed on it's brakes.

However the cop did not react at all to the pickup's reaction, and it went downhill from there. When he finally saw the oncoming car he had no choice but to hit it. He probably made the correct choice to go left at that point, but that's what happens when he's not paying attention and doesn't react sooner to the first clue...the pickup's sudden movement.
 

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as was taught when i went to driving school, if you drive a car, you don't drive directly behind a truck, you drive a little to the side so you can see what's in front of them.

:| Even that doesn't work unless im way way way over the left or right line :hmm: Oh well.. Maybe its because im lowered to the ground and in a smaller sports car..
 

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There should be a 2 seconds separation between cars and the cop was at least 3 seconds behind that truck. You're talking out of your ass.

wtf video are you watching? There's less than 2 seconds separation, and he's closer to 1 second separation than 2 seconds of separation. Use the lines on the road (10 feet long, 30 feet apart) and go frame by frame.

The officer is following another vehicle too closely with his view obstructed. He didn't cause the accident, but he might have had a better chance at avoiding it had he been back just a little more.