LOL So much for Apple's touch ID "security"

[MrX8503]

I've never used Motorolas version. How did it differ?

Motorola's version was the swipe type that you've seen on laptops for many years. It could only read 1 orientation and it wasn't consistent/accurate. The scanner was at the top edge of the device and you couldn't see it. It's placement really only allowed index finger usage.

Basically, Motorola didn't put much thought into it.

 

[openwheel]

LOL you are comparing iPhone 5S fingerprint scanner to Motorola's Atrix rendition from 3 years ago? I guess whatever justifies your love affair with the gold phone.

Didn't Apple buy the same company that made Motorola's FP scanner? Funny how that works.

 

[Eug]

Heheh. openwheel is trying every excuse to discredit Apple's implementation for the fingerprint scanner, but the arguments don't even make sense.

 

[openwheel]

It's just a gimmicky feature. You and couple other Apple faithfuls don't see it, and likely never will.

This is something Steve Jobs would never have implimented. I'd rather have something more useful like OIS.

 

[Super56K]

It's just a gimmicky feature. You and couple other Apple faithfuls don't see it, and likely never will.

This is something Steve Jobs would never have implimented. I'd rather have something more useful like OIS.

Can this poor reasoning stop please? We don't know that, and never will, because he's dead.

 

[openwheel]

Just one man's opinion.

 

[Rakehellion]

Its not as fast as the 5s

So it isn't the same.

 

[Rakehellion]

Apple have stated that apps can take advantage of TouchID authorization.

No, they didn't. Nothing supports it but the lock screen and App Store.

 

[dontl00katme]

If you are worried about your fingerprints use your toeprints. Trust me, nobody is gonna see it coming. That's what Steve would have done.

 

[Eug]

It works with nipple prints

 

[MrX8503]

LOL you are comparing iPhone 5S fingerprint scanner to Motorola's Atrix rendition from 3 years ago? I guess whatever justifies your love affair with the gold phone.

Didn't Apple buy the same company that made Motorola's FP scanner? Funny how that works.

Someone asked how the Atrix did it and I informed them. It doesn't matter how long ago it was (2yrs ago btw), Moto sucked at implementing it.

Companies either don't understand or can't execute what Steve said by working backwards starting at the UX first. Motorola's method is clearly hardware first and UX later.

Clearly there are some incompetent people at Moto if they forgot about their Atrix having a scanner.

 

[Rakehellion]

1. Your finger could be used while you sleep to unlock the phone or pictures taken then. (snooping girlfriends/wives anyone?)

Or they could just look over your shoulder while you're typing in the PIN.

2. Recording police and they notice you. Place you in handcuffs, finger used to unlock phone, deletion of video.

That's illegal. They could also beat you until you tell them the unlock code or just smash your phone.

In short, if you spot thugs committing a crime, it's good to walk the other way.

 

[Rakehellion]

Isn't the data stored on the iPhone some sort of mathematical representation of your fingerprint? If so, can you produce a workable fingerprint image out of this data?

Probably. You'd have to break hardware-level encryption but I'm sure it's doable.

 

[dontl00katme]

It works with nipple prints

Greater minds think alike.

 

[openwheel]

Someone asked how the Atrix did it and I informed them. It doesn't matter how long ago it was (2yrs ago btw), Moto sucked at implementing it.

Companies either don't understand or can't execute what Steve said by working backwards starting at the UX first. Motorola's method is clearly hardware first and UX later.

Clearly there are some incompetent people at Moto if they forgot about their Atrix having a scanner.

I have to agree it wasn't well implimented. It was brave though.

 

[openwheel]

Or they could just look over your shoulder while you're typing in the PIN.

Again, you can change the code, you can't change your fingerprint.

 

[Rakehellion]

Again, you can change the code, you can't change your fingerprint.

You can remove fingerprint identification.
You won't change your passcode if you don't know it's been compromised.

 

[openwheel]

No, they didn't. Nothing supports it but the lock screen and App Store.

exactly, fingerprint, billing information, and a vast shopping space.....:thumbsup:

Like I said, it's a cruel joke waiting to happen at a frat house.

 

[openwheel]

You can remove fingerprint identification.
You won't change your passcode if you don't know it's been compromised.

You can periodically change passcode just like most security systems, you can't alter your fingerprint.

Why bother removing fingerprint ID after your account is already compromised? So you can fall back to a more secure system?

It's done. You'll never be able to use your fingerprint ever again once it's stolen.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

I feel like people are taking this too seriously. Did Google get this much flak for its facial recognition unlock?

 

[MrX8503]

You can periodically change passcode just like most security systems, you can't alter your fingerprint.

Why bother removing fingerprint ID after your account is already compromised? So you can fall back to a more secure system?

It's done. You'll never be able to use your fingerprint ever again once it's stolen.

You do have ten toes and ten fingers. Be creative.

I feel like people are taking this too seriously. Did Google get this much flak for its facial recognition unlock?

I don't remember. I'm sure you can change your face if its been compromised. /s

 

[Rakehellion]

exactly, fingerprint, billing information, and a vast shopping space.....:thumbsup:

Like I said, it's a cruel joke waiting to happen at a frat house.

So they'll be able to see the last 4 digits of your credit card and buy apps for you. Terrifying.

Back in my day, people just stole credit cards.

 

[ControlD]

I'll admit that I wish Android had this feature. Not enough to make me go back to iOS, but I think the fingerprint unlock is a neat feature. I don't have anything on my phone that would ruin my life were it to get stolen, minus perhaps someone being able to rack up charges on the Play Store. Like most people, I keep a passlock on my phone to keep people from messing with it, not for hardcore security.

 

[Rakehellion]

You can periodically change passcode just like most security systems, you can't alter your fingerprint.

If your passcode is currently a 4-digit number, you can take better steps than periodically changing it.

Why bother removing fingerprint ID after your account is already compromised?

Because you don't want to use it anymore?

It's done. You'll never be able to use your fingerprint ever again once it's stolen.

So don't use it.

 

[Eug]

I feel like people are taking this too seriously. Did Google get this much flak for its facial recognition unlock?

They got flack because it doesn't work very well.