lol Romney adviser says he won middle class (white voters?)

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Lifer
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http://news.yahoo.com/top-romney-adviser-brags-losing-poor-minority-voters-180955828--politics.html

Mitt Romney can take some solace in his devastating loss on Nov. 6: at least he won the voters who really count.

That's the thesis anyway of top adviser Stuart Stevens, who penned an op-ed in the Washington Post on Wednesday arguing that by winning wealthier and whiter voters, Romney secured the moral victory over Obama.

"On Nov. 6, Mitt Romney carried the majority of every economic group except those with less than $50,000 a year in household income," Stevens wrote. "That means he carried the majority of middle-class voters. While John McCain lost white voters under 30 by 10 points, Romney won those voters by seven points, a 17-point shift."

According to Stevens, "The Republican Party has problems, but as we go forward, let's remember that any party that captures the majority of the middle class must be doing something right." As a result, "Republican ideals -- Mitt Romney -- carried the day."

The implied argument that poorer votes are inferior seems to undercut the campaign's central message over the last two years: that Romney's top concern was providing jobs for the jobless. The unemployed Americans Romney highlighted in ads, speeches and photo-ops make under $50,000 a year almost by definition and campaign videos like the one below are jarring next to Stevens' latest piece.

Stevens notably never mentioned jobs and unemployment in his op-ed, instead focusing on how Romney championed "the moral case for free enterprise and conservative economics."
Unfortunately for Romney, poor and minority votes counted just the same as the allegedly superior votes Stevens favored. The result was an electoral college blowout for the president powered by strong turnout and margins among young voters, Latinos, African Americans, and women.

But Stevens had an explanation for that, too. Obama was "a charismatic African American president with a billion dollars, no primary and a media that often felt morally conflicted about being critical. How easy is that to replicate?"

The abject ignorance here is pretty stunning (that's not an opinion, it's a fact). Apparently everyone making over $50,000 are "most of the middle class" according to this Romney advisor. Of course, what about people who used to make $50K and decided to retire this year? What about part-timers who can't find work or those who can't find work at all, they clearly all make below $50K but aren't "middle class" anymore because of temporary circumstances?

Just sad how good conservative ideas are perverted by knuckle-headed partisan drivel about hard work being the domain of their party with leeching being the domain of the other.
 

Anarchist420

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McCain won the middle class in 2008 though.

Anyway, Romney was the worst possible candidate the Republicans could've picked for young efficient white people who didn't have a lot of wealth.
 

waggy

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McCain won the middle class in 2008 though.

Anyway, Romney was the worst possible candidate the Republicans could've picked for young efficient white people who didn't have a lot of wealth.

one of the few times i think i have agreed with you..
 

Ausm

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McCain won the middle class in 2008 though.

Anyway, Romney was the worst possible candidate the Republicans could've picked for young efficient white people who didn't have a lot of wealth.

Nah I actually jumped for joy when he got the nomination but my life was truly fulfilled when he picked Ryan as VP. LMFAO.....
 

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McCain won the middle class in 2008 though.

Anyway, Romney was the worst possible candidate the Republicans could've picked for young efficient white people who didn't have a lot of wealth.

Up until the 1st debate Democrats were claiming Romney was one of the worst picks in history.
 

Screech

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http://news.yahoo.com/top-romney-adviser-brags-losing-poor-minority-voters-180955828--politics.html



The abject ignorance here is pretty stunning (that's not an opinion, it's a fact). Apparently everyone making over $50,000 are "most of the middle class" according to this Romney advisor. Of course, what about people who used to make $50K and decided to retire this year? What about part-timers who can't find work or those who can't find work at all, they clearly all make below $50K but aren't "middle class" anymore because of temporary circumstances?

LOL, if the entire middle class was making over 50K/yr, that would be an incredibly good statement about obama's economic policies. Such a good statement would, in fact, suggest that nobody ever vote republican, ever again.
 

Ausm

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Up until the 1st debate Democrats were claiming Romney was one of the worst picks in history.

I think someone slipped an imposter in for President Obama that night. I have to admit that was a total WTF moment for me though. ;)
 

Moonbeam

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The irony is that the Republicans destroyed the class that would vote for them, not unexpected from congenital idiots.

Of course their biggest problem is that they have run out of sufficient numbers of congenital bigots.

Idiots bigots and twits, they should rename their party the three t's.

The Republican party is dying because it's running out of chumps.
 

nehalem256

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I think someone slipped an imposter in for President Obama that night. I have to admit that was a total WTF moment for me though. ;)

In retrospect I think Obama may have tanked the first debate on purpose.

That way when he still beat Romney he would be able to claim a mandate by having beat a credible opponent.
 

dud

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OP, does this look like P&N???

The last thing ATOT needs is this ...
 

Kadarin

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I read it as "we got our asses kicked in this election, but at least we got the vote demographic that matters to us".

Sad. It's a political party out of touch with reality.
 

Jhhnn

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The author has no idea what "middle class" even means.

The numbers helped drive an overall decline in income for the typical American family. Median household income after inflation fell to $50,054, a level that was 8 percent lower than in 2007, the year before the recession took hold.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/13/us/us-incomes-dropped-last-year-census-bureau-says.html?_r=0

Median is middle, last time I checked...

More epistemic closure on the Right, creating their own reality, at least in their own minds....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/books/28conserv.html?_r=0
 

piasabird

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I think many of the mainstream middle class just did not vote. I think many people realized that they have no faith in democrats or the republicans in congress to cut spending. It is a vote of no confidence in our Broken political system.

I think many people are also hate mongers who just hate Mormons or any form of religion for that matter.
 

jhu

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Asians have the highest median income of any group in this country, and yet Romney lost them by a wide margin. Please explain that.
 

CallMeJoe

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Up until the 1st debate Democrats were claiming Romney was one of the worst picks in history.
Mr. Romney was the worst Republican candidate imaginable... with the exceptions of every other candidate the Republicans gave a chance in their caucuses and primaries.
 

blankslate

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Sure, I'd say Mr. Romney won middle class votes, but he probably lost a lot of them too with the 47% comment and his refusal to speak out against what some of his party members said about women.

I wouldn't be surprised if some women told their husbands "I'm voting for Romney" then wrote in Mickey Mouse.
 
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Ldir

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Asians have the highest median income of any group in this country, and yet Romney lost them by a wide margin. Please explain that.

Asians are intelligent and good with math.