LOL....Read the headline.....then look at the pic

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's funny to laugh at people who are worse off than we are. but imagine yourself stuck in the suburb with a decreasing number of jobs available, gas getting more expensive, and you're still hit with the monthly bills and the expenses of sending your children to school. it's not as simple as "oh lets move to NYC where there are lots of jobs" or "oh lets starve ourselves for a month eating nothing at all so we can lose 100 lbs".

So instead, let's just sit aound and complain that we can't afford meat because the mean ole society isn't giving us enough money.

from what i heard, they are looking for jobs, but there's nothing nearby.

i agree that they are not doing everything that they can do help themselves, but it's not as easy as losing some weight and all that.

Nothing worth having is easy and never has been. Maybe Phil Graham was right when he called us a nation of whiners (and that's saying something coming out of my mouth or off my keyboard! *gasp*)

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's funny to laugh at people who are worse off than we are. but imagine yourself stuck in the suburb with a decreasing number of jobs available, gas getting more expensive, and you're still hit with the monthly bills and the expenses of sending your children to school. it's not as simple as "oh lets move to NYC where there are lots of jobs" or "oh lets starve ourselves for a month eating nothing at all so we can lose 100 lbs".

So instead, let's just sit aound and complain that we can't afford meat because the mean ole society isn't giving us enough money.

from what i heard, they are looking for jobs, but there's nothing nearby.

i agree that they are not doing everything that they can do help themselves, but it's not as easy as losing some weight and all that.

Nothing worth having is easy and never has been. Maybe Phil Graham was right when he called us a nation of whiners (and that's saying something coming out of my mouth or off my keyboard! *gasp*)

to be honest, the daughter can just take part of the $637, move to a place where she can find a job, then settle down and send money back home.

but then again, what if she simply can't find a job? with a high-school diploma, there really aren't many choices. driving around all day looking for jobs costs money too.

she mentioned something like "if i could do this all over again i would, but that's life". surely they could save up, eat healthy, go for high education with a sustainable job, go forth and prosper and all sorts of good stuff. but the same can be said for the current sub-prime mortgage crisis, and in hind-sight, we shouldn't get involved in Iraq and even WTC can be saved. There is always an unlimited number of solutions for problems that have occurred in the past.

The problem is, it is really difficult to get out of what they are in now, and there is no turning back .

 

[rpanic]

Looking at them I don't see how their heart has the motivation to keep beating.

Also I am sure taxpayers are paying ton (might come out to a dollar a pound in their case) for there medical every month.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: sniperruff


to be honest, the daughter can just take part of the $637, move to a place where she can find a job, then settle down and send money back home.

but then again, what if she simply can't find a job? with a high-school diploma, there really aren't many choices. driving around all day looking for jobs costs money too.

she mentioned something like "if i could do this all over again i would, but that's life". surely they could save up, eat healthy, go for high education with a sustainable job, go forth and prosper and all sorts of good stuff. but the same can be said for the current sub-prime mortgage crisis, and in hind-sight, we shouldn't get involved in Iraq and even WTC can be saved. There is always an unlimited number of solutions for problems that have occurred in the past.

The problem is, it is really difficult to get out of what they are in now, and there is no turning back .

So we should just pay them forever and if they complain about not being able to afford meat, them them to STFU because I'm not giving up more of my hard earned dollars so you plump people can stay at home and eat burgers all day long. As far as I'm concerned, eat Ramen noodles.

Really, that's what you are saying. They have a right to complain about not being able to afford meat...I should have the right to complain about my money going for that and them asking for more. Any more though, the working man is told to STFU while people like that get more and more handed to them.

I wonder if they have cable TV? I wonder if they can somehow afford the internet? I bet the AC runs 24/7 instead of using a fan and I would almost bet that they get assistance on their energy bills (again, you and I pay for this though higher rates on our electricity or higher taxes).

Instead, they eat a lot of starches like potatoes and noodles.

Right there is part of their problem.

For the record, I understand the problem very well. My sig. says it all. The so called FREE TRADE deals have gutted middle class American manufacturing jobs (and are working on other types of jobs too) and left many areas in the MidWest with nothing. I'm sure that there are many that have it rough, but this woman has been on SSI for 17 years and the rest are on food stamps. So what if they have to cut back on meat and ice cream when someone else is paying for it? I have cut back and I'm paying for mine....why shouldn't they cut back when I'm paying for that too?

I hope America turns itself around in areas like manufacturing as there are millions of people who aren't / can't be better educated and will need jobs and if the jobs aren't there, the rest of society will pay for it, either directly through welfare assistance or indirectly as these people turn to crime to pay the bills and eat.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: sniperruff


to be honest, the daughter can just take part of the $637, move to a place where she can find a job, then settle down and send money back home.

but then again, what if she simply can't find a job? with a high-school diploma, there really aren't many choices. driving around all day looking for jobs costs money too.

she mentioned something like "if i could do this all over again i would, but that's life". surely they could save up, eat healthy, go for high education with a sustainable job, go forth and prosper and all sorts of good stuff. but the same can be said for the current sub-prime mortgage crisis, and in hind-sight, we shouldn't get involved in Iraq and even WTC can be saved. There is always an unlimited number of solutions for problems that have occurred in the past.

The problem is, it is really difficult to get out of what they are in now, and there is no turning back .

So we should just pay them forever and if they complain about not being able to afford meat, them them to STFU because I'm not giving up more of my hard earned dollars so you plump people can stay at home and eat burgers all day long. As far as I'm concerned, eat Ramen noodles.

Really, that's what you are saying. They have a right to complain about not being able to afford meat...I should have the right to complain about my money going for that and them asking for more. Any more though, the working man is told to STFU while people like that get more and more handed to them.

I wonder if they have cable TV? I wonder if they can somehow afford the internet? I bet the AC runs 24/7 instead of using a fan and I would almost bet that they get assistance on their energy bills (again, you and I pay for this though higher rates on our electricity or higher taxes).

1) they never complained. it's a report by NPR.
2) they never disclosed what they are eating. the report disclosed that "they eat a lot of starches like potatoes and noodles.", which does not really translate to " burgers all day long"
3) again, they are not asking for anything or even complaining. it's an NPR report.
4) who knows what they have? while you can assume that they watch HBO on their new 56-inch LCD HDTV while turning their AC on 24/7 and reading ATOT on their subsidized Verizon FIOS, one can also assume that they can't even afford to run an AC, have a gas stove, or even pay the phone bill. again, nobody knows.

don't get me wrong, i pay my fair share of taxes and i feel the pinch too. and hell, i hate for my tax money to go to undeserved people as much as you do. i just can't stand all this fat jokes and them complaining.

from what i've heard, the woman was in a car accident and couldn't work. again, is she doing everything she can? could she have picked up some sort of educational texts and teach herself and get a decent job? possibly. but faced with what she has now, can she do anything differently to change her life?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

4) who knows what they have? while you can assume that they watch HBO on their new 56-inch LCD HDTV while turning their AC on 24/7 and reading ATOT on their subsidized Verizon FIOS, one can also assume that they can't even afford to run an AC, have a gas stove, or even pay the phone bill. again, nobody knows.

I never assumed anything that's why I placed "?" in my posts. I really wonder if they are buying any of that stuff (for the record, I was thinking 25" CRT and phone line internet to go with the window AC unit, nothing like you describe above! 😛 ). If (and that's if) they are buying any of that kind of stuff, then shame on them and us.

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: sniperruff

4) who knows what they have? while you can assume that they watch HBO on their new 56-inch LCD HDTV while turning their AC on 24/7 and reading ATOT on their subsidized Verizon FIOS, one can also assume that they can't even afford to run an AC, have a gas stove, or even pay the phone bill. again, nobody knows.

I never assumed anything that's why I placed "?" in my posts. I really wonder if they are buying any of that stuff (for the record, I was thinking 25" CRT and phone line internet to go with the window AC unit, nothing like you describe above! 😛 ). If (and that's if) they are buying any of that kind of stuff, then shame on them and us.

to conclude, the current economy just sucks for us, and it doesn't matter whether we're fat or skinny, white or black, where we live or what we do. some people are hit harder than other people is a fact.

not to sound like a flaming liberal, but the money we spent in iraq could have made our lives that much better.

 

[Wheezer]

Fasting is a very healthy thing to do and has been used by many to maintain weight, a healthy digestive system and lower the amount of toxins in the body. I do it one every 6-8 months for a 2 week period, and I think these gals may want to check into an alternative life style that does not force them to eat themselves out of house and home (or children)....just food for thought.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: sniperruff


not to sound like a flaming liberal, but the money we spent in iraq could have made our lives that much better.

I can agree with that. The money we are still spending in Iraq could make our lives better. One thought is if the 150,000 people who are fighting in Iraq now returned to their regular jobs, would it also be worse that it is now? Just a thought and another topic. Your points are well taken (by me) and I understand what you are saying. More details could shed light on the situation though. I've seen so many people who "couldn't work" or "can't get a job" complain about this stuff yet they can jump on the four wheeler and ride around the hills all day long or drink beers with their buddies, on and on and on....It's not difficult to be skeptical.

 

[rpanic]

Maybe they should seek a personal trainer.

Exercise

 

[halik]

Yeah they look like they can't afford to eat :roll:

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: sniperruff


not to sound like a flaming liberal, but the money we spent in iraq could have made our lives that much better.

I can agree with that. The money we are still spending in Iraq could make our lives better. One thought is if the 150,000 people who are fighting in Iraq now returned to their regular jobs, would it also be worse that it is now? Just a thought and another topic. Your points are well taken (by me) and I understand what you are saying. More details could shed light on the situation though. I've seen so many people who "couldn't work" or "can't get a job" complain about this stuff yet they can jump on the four wheeler and ride around the hills all day long or drink beers with their buddies, on and on and on....It's not difficult to be skeptical.

that's a very interesting thought. although i feel that the returning soldiers will demand more housing (clearing out our excessive housing inventory), demand more food (which sadly means higher food prices, but that translates to richer farmers, which will in turn spend more money in a larger farm and more equipment, thus creating more jobs in the long run) , demand more goods (stimulates manufacturing), and it'll give us more room to stabilize the middle east region (imagine if the US actually poses a threat to iran, which would result in more stabilized oil prices).

i do share your frustration with our resources going to undeserved people though. sadly, it is hard to tell them from the truly deserving people a lot of times.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

that's a very interesting thought. although i feel that the returning soldiers will demand more housing (clearing out our excessive housing inventory), demand more food (which sadly means higher food prices, but that translates to richer farmers, which will in turn spend more money in a larger farm and more equipment, thus creating more jobs in the long run) , demand more goods (stimulates manufacturing), and it'll give us more room to stabilize the middle east region (imagine if the US actually poses a threat to iran, which would result in more stabilized oil prices).

i do share your frustration with our resources going to undeserved people though. sadly, it is hard to tell them from the truly deserving people a lot of times.

Depends on whether those soldiers (national guard) already have homes here (many do as their spouse is here) and jobs waiting for them.

Demanding more jobs doesn't stimulate manufacturing. Mabye buying more American made products would (as you stated), but not demanding more jobs. Believe me, if demanding more jobs meant stimulus on manufacturing, my company would not have closed and shipped the 7 plants to Mexico in the last few years (barf).

Lower oil prices would probably result from pulling of the region (or at least pulling back) because of more stability (perceived) in the region. That could help us but if the dollar sprang back to life, it could crush manufacturing again as well as exports (which are soaring).

Lots of "if's" in the big ole economy, and again, probably better for another thread. (Sorry OP).

 

[Scarpozzi]

Oh noes!!! They're gonna starve!!!

 

[nick1985]

"So they cut back on expensive items like meat, and they don't buy extras like ice cream anymore"


SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!! :roll:

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: rpanic
Maybe they should seek a personal trainer.

Exercise

I bet that walrus would put them to shame, he can probably do more crunches than both of those fat slobs combined.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
Oh noes!!! They're gonna starve!!!

Hey, don't make fun! Times are apparently so bad that they're putting on excess blubber reserves for winter. That's the only way they can afford to keep warm - no wintertime food expenses.

By springtime, they'll be looking more like Halle Berry.

 

[blurredvision]

I find it funny that the lot of you are making fun of others as an obvious means to feel better about yourself.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I find it funny that the lot of you are making fun of others as an obvious means to feel better about yourself.

And since you find it funny, and in doing so attempt to portray yourself as superior, that is a "better" feeling than you would otherwise have had. Seeing as it came about through the collective lot of insult-hurling, that makes you an accomplice. 😉


When you start sprouting an extra pair of boobs, that should be a subtle hint that there might be some weight gain going on.

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
I find it funny that the lot of you are making fun of others as an obvious means to feel better about yourself.

Oh yeah, I relish the days that ATOT posts articles about overweight people complaining they can't afford food, It always brightens up my day to know that there are people like that sucking down my tax dollars so they can feed their fat faces.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's funny to laugh at people who are worse off than we are. but imagine yourself stuck in the suburb with a decreasing number of jobs available, gas getting more expensive, and you're still hit with the monthly bills and the expenses of sending your children to school. it's not as simple as "oh lets move to NYC where there are lots of jobs" or "oh lets starve ourselves for a month eating nothing at all so we can lose 100 lbs".

Sorry, but this, "Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job.", tells me all I need to know. Unless she's in permanent hospital care (which she obviously isn't), she's not "incapable of getting a job". She made stupid choices in her past and now she's paying for them. It's as simple as that.

ZV

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's funny to laugh at people who are worse off than we are. but imagine yourself stuck in the suburb with a decreasing number of jobs available, gas getting more expensive, and you're still hit with the monthly bills and the expenses of sending your children to school. it's not as simple as "oh lets move to NYC where there are lots of jobs" or "oh lets starve ourselves for a month eating nothing at all so we can lose 100 lbs".

Sorry, but this, "Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job.", tells me all I need to know. Unless she's in permanent hospital care (which she obviously isn't), she's not "incapable of getting a job". She made stupid choices in her past and now she's paying for them. It's as simple as that.

ZV

I tend to agree with that. Also, what did she do from the time she quit school until she was 23 (time of accident)?

 

[rpanic]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's funny to laugh at people who are worse off than we are. but imagine yourself stuck in the suburb with a decreasing number of jobs available, gas getting more expensive, and you're still hit with the monthly bills and the expenses of sending your children to school. it's not as simple as "oh lets move to NYC where there are lots of jobs" or "oh lets starve ourselves for a month eating nothing at all so we can lose 100 lbs".

Sorry, but this, "Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job.", tells me all I need to know. Unless she's in permanent hospital care (which she obviously isn't), she's not "incapable of getting a job". She made stupid choices in her past and now she's paying for them. It's as simple as that.

ZV

I tend to agree with that. Also, what did she do from the time she quit school until she was 23 (time of accident)?

Watched TV

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: sniperruff
it's funny to laugh at people who are worse off than we are. but imagine yourself stuck in the suburb with a decreasing number of jobs available, gas getting more expensive, and you're still hit with the monthly bills and the expenses of sending your children to school. it's not as simple as "oh lets move to NYC where there are lots of jobs" or "oh lets starve ourselves for a month eating nothing at all so we can lose 100 lbs".

Sorry, but this, "Nunez, 40, has never worked and has no high school degree. She says a car accident 17 years ago left her depressed and disabled, incapable of getting a job.", tells me all I need to know. Unless she's in permanent hospital care (which she obviously isn't), she's not "incapable of getting a job". She made stupid choices in her past and now she's paying for them. It's as simple as that.

ZV

I tend to agree with that. Also, what did she do from the time she quit school until she was 23 (time of accident)?

ate the neighborhood kids that strayed into the yard.

 

[Alistar7]

start at 2:14....