bwahahahahahahaha, that piece of sh!t is funny. Whats even funnier is those of you retards who believed it was real. hahahahahahaha
Velocity mesh you say? Ok, I can't back this up with anything, but my guess is that it's like this (which I've seen before, but never had a name for):Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: Eli
LOL!
Okay, people. That is a GoPed, not a moped.
And there is no way in fsck that video is real. OMG! LOL... It sure is funny.
As a motorized scooter enthusiast(GoPed is a brand), and owner of a highly modified Mosquito Hawk, I can tell you that there is NO WAY that a scooter could beat a car like that. LOL! It's laughable. C'mon people, they've got one gear, and go about 25MPH stock, 35+MPH with heavy modifications. It is VERY hard to get a motorized vehicle with a single gear to go 40+ without some SERIOUS HP and RPM.
Thanks for the laugh tho.
Goped:
It's a 4 speed. 23k rpm. 2 stroke with tuned exhaust.
Lets say it's a 50cc engine. GP bikes with 125cc 2-strokes makes around 50-60 hp. Scaled down to 50cc ---> 20 - 25 hp.
Add NOS for 30-40% increase in power (taken out of my ass) gives 25 - 35 hp.
Small guy ~120lbs + goped (40lbs?) gives ~160lbs.
Power/weight ratio : 0.16 - 0.22 hp/lbs
Trans Am
~450hp (325 stock + mods)
3400lbs
Power/ weight ratio : 0.13 hp/lbs
Goped is the winner. I'd say this is possible.
:Q
Hmmmmmmmm...... I didn't notice the "4 speed" part.
What the fsck is a Velocity Mesh 4 speed? Nothing realevent comes up on Google, and I've never heard such terms.
I know of a guy who adapted a 5 speed automatic bicycle hub hub to his scooter, and he can go damn fast.. but not THAT fast. 35+MPH in 5th, he reports. Check out the Fly By's on his page.
You can also see Rick's "Rockzilla". Rick, my girlfriends mom's boyfriend, has an 18HP, 135cc US820 Kart engine powered scooter, and he can happily keep up with freeway traffic, but to outright beat a car like that.. there's just no way, unless the car was "letting" him.
It's a Komatsu-Zenoah GRZ43, 43cc. I cannot find any information about this particular engine, but even with a tuned pipe, 25HP is pushing it.......
The Italian made 50cc screamers only do around 18HP.. with tuned pipe.
I dunno. I think it's a pretty big stretch.
You have a two parallel shafts. Each shaft has a set of gears (say 4 in this case), one shaft having gears going from small to large and the other shaft having gears large to small respectively. The engine has a centripital clutch, connecting to the lowest ratio gear set, which has a ratchet mechanism (or one way bearings) to allow it to coast freely. The other gears of the shaft going to the rest of the drivetrain have centripital based clutches inside of them, while the gears on the motor driven shaft have ratcheting mechanisms (or one way bearings) in them. When the goped (or whatever) gets to a certain speed, the drivetrain spins the one shaft fast enough to engage the centripital clutch on the second gear set, in effect shifting up. Since it's relatively low power, the motor just bogs down and you get a more or less "smooth" shift into "2nd" gear, and as the motor slowly works the rpms back up you gain more speed from the new gear ratio. This repeats for the # of gears.
Sorry if that's hard to understand, it's pretty hard to explain without diagrams and whatnot...
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Velocity mesh you say? Ok, I can't back this up with anything, but my guess is that it's like this (which I've seen before, but never had a name for):Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: FrustratedUser
Originally posted by: Eli
LOL!
Okay, people. That is a GoPed, not a moped.
And there is no way in fsck that video is real. OMG! LOL... It sure is funny.
As a motorized scooter enthusiast(GoPed is a brand), and owner of a highly modified Mosquito Hawk, I can tell you that there is NO WAY that a scooter could beat a car like that. LOL! It's laughable. C'mon people, they've got one gear, and go about 25MPH stock, 35+MPH with heavy modifications. It is VERY hard to get a motorized vehicle with a single gear to go 40+ without some SERIOUS HP and RPM.
Thanks for the laugh tho.
Goped:
It's a 4 speed. 23k rpm. 2 stroke with tuned exhaust.
Lets say it's a 50cc engine. GP bikes with 125cc 2-strokes makes around 50-60 hp. Scaled down to 50cc ---> 20 - 25 hp.
Add NOS for 30-40% increase in power (taken out of my ass) gives 25 - 35 hp.
Small guy ~120lbs + goped (40lbs?) gives ~160lbs.
Power/weight ratio : 0.16 - 0.22 hp/lbs
Trans Am
~450hp (325 stock + mods)
3400lbs
Power/ weight ratio : 0.13 hp/lbs
Goped is the winner. I'd say this is possible.
:Q
Hmmmmmmmm...... I didn't notice the "4 speed" part.
What the fsck is a Velocity Mesh 4 speed? Nothing realevent comes up on Google, and I've never heard such terms.
I know of a guy who adapted a 5 speed automatic bicycle hub hub to his scooter, and he can go damn fast.. but not THAT fast. 35+MPH in 5th, he reports. Check out the Fly By's on his page.
You can also see Rick's "Rockzilla". Rick, my girlfriends mom's boyfriend, has an 18HP, 135cc US820 Kart engine powered scooter, and he can happily keep up with freeway traffic, but to outright beat a car like that.. there's just no way, unless the car was "letting" him.
It's a Komatsu-Zenoah GRZ43, 43cc. I cannot find any information about this particular engine, but even with a tuned pipe, 25HP is pushing it.......
The Italian made 50cc screamers only do around 18HP.. with tuned pipe.
I dunno. I think it's a pretty big stretch.
You have a two parallel shafts. Each shaft has a set of gears (say 4 in this case), one shaft having gears going from small to large and the other shaft having gears large to small respectively. The engine has a centripital clutch, connecting to the lowest ratio gear set, which has a ratchet mechanism (or one way bearings) to allow it to coast freely. The other gears of the shaft going to the rest of the drivetrain have centripital based clutches inside of them, while the gears on the motor driven shaft have ratcheting mechanisms (or one way bearings) in them. When the goped (or whatever) gets to a certain speed, the drivetrain spins the one shaft fast enough to engage the centripital clutch on the second gear set, in effect shifting up. Since it's relatively low power, the motor just bogs down and you get a more or less "smooth" shift into "2nd" gear, and as the motor slowly works the rpms back up you gain more speed from the new gear ratio. This repeats for the # of gears.
Sorry if that's hard to understand, it's pretty hard to explain without diagrams and whatnot...
Yes, I understand what you mean.. I've thought about adding a second gear to my scooter with this method, using two clutches.. one that engages at low RPMs, and one that engages at higer RPMs.
The scooter looks basically stock though. I don't see provisions for all that stuff.
Besides, GoPeds don't even use a chain drive system, they use a friction drive..........
This was a drag race 0-60 on a scooter that does 80-90 tops (I read this on their site)
Keep in mind the car weighs much more than the scooter and requires much more power to accelerate. This was an excersize in acceleration not top speed.
Neither of them were WOT from the start obviously, since the scooter launches people head over heels if they try that.
What i meant by it not being fake is whether there really is such a scooter not whether it can beat a ws6 or not.
It's not a fake vid. The Ws6 driver didn't give it all he had, but neither did the scooter, it all depends on the driver anyway. Neither of them can start WOT from a standing start without losin it or burning half their tread away, this was more driver vs driver than car vs scooter. Which one is willing to give it more gas at what point.
Keep in mind the car weighs much more than the scooter and requires much more power to accelerate. This was an excersize in acceleration not top speed.
Neither of them were WOT from the start obviously, since the scooter launches people head over heels if they try that.
What i meant by it not being fake is whether there really is such a scooter not whether it can beat a ws6 or not.
It's not a fake vid. The Ws6 driver didn't give it all he had, but neither did the scooter, it all depends on the driver anyway. Neither of them can start WOT from a standing start without losin it or burning half their tread away, this was more driver vs driver than car vs scooter. Which one is willing to give it more gas at what point.
I dont see how this is possible, I dont see how someone can do greater than 50 on a scooter simply because of the wind would knock them off and or make them lose control.
You can definately go faster than 50 on a scooter..
The video just looks so silly. I'm still skeptical, although I do think a scooter can beat a car from 0-60, I out accelerate cars at stoplights on my scooter all the time.. but my top speed is only ~40MPH @ 8000RPM.
Some people have no common sense. Or maybe their brain just doesn't have the resolving power to differentiate what is real from what is not. In any case, they're an idiot. The people who made the video are putting you guys on by claiming it's real.
Oh geez. If you're going to quote numbers, at least get them right.
Time to tear you apart.
First of all, how are you going to say that it's only 450hp? Even if the car was totally stock 325hp other than the 150 shot, that would be 475 hp with the 150 shot.
Now the 325 hp figure is bogus anyway, since they are heavily underrated from the factory. They usually have more than 310 hp at the rear wheels, which is about 360 at the crank. Now it says he has intake, exhaust, and cams. That puts the car well over 400hp, even without the nitrous. To be conservative, we'll say 420 hp + 150 shot= 570 hp.
Now you have drag to worry about on the scooter and the car, and even with a good power to weight ratio the scooter will still be drag limited. With a guy standing straight up on it, it's not going to be very aerodynamic.
The vid is fake, wake up.
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People are inhaling something if they think that goped can beat a WS6.
I don't care what is done to the engine of the goped.
A WS6 with 275 width tires would peel out like crazy and it might get something like low to mid 5 in the 60 with all those mods (just an estimate, im not an expert on camaros) Anyone get a good look at the tires of that goped? those are like 20 width. no traction whatsoever. the goped might weigh much less needing less power to accelerate but that less weight makes it MUCH harder to get any usable traction.
second, in the beginning of the video it's obvious that the vid has been sped up or something like that. i mean, if this guy is going sooo fast then how come it travels horizontally for few frames and then corrects itself in the span of a tenth of a second?
I don't care what is done to the engine of the goped.
A WS6 with 275 width tires would peel out like crazy and it might get something like low to mid 5 in the 60 with all those mods (just an estimate, im not an expert on camaros) Anyone get a good look at the tires of that goped? those are like 20 width. no traction whatsoever. the goped might weigh much less needing less power to accelerate but that less weight makes it MUCH harder to get any usable traction.
second, in the beginning of the video it's obvious that the vid has been sped up or something like that. i mean, if this guy is going sooo fast then how come it travels horizontally for few frames and then corrects itself in the span of a tenth of a second?
Unless the car "let" the GoPed win, it's fake. There's just no way, even with the engine turning 26,000+ RPM.. which is about 50% more than the engine will do stock, the damn thing only has one gear, it's maximum speed is only going to be around 70-80, maybe a little higher with changed gearing... and even then, it's friction drive.. you'd just eat a hole in the rear tire if you floored it. You wouldn't be able to control it. Even if you could get the traction on the rear tire, it would just spin.
The video looks kinda funny to me also, which is another thing that leads me to believe it's fake.
<---- resident ATOT motorized scooter enthusiast.
Preaching to the choir brother!
The scooter would need to be a 1600cc motorcycle like a hyabusa in order to beat that car.
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