Lol Microsoft

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/steve-ballmer-s-nightmare-is-coming-true-181558610.html

Is this just a bad dream?

Last year, we concluded by saying, "Fortunately for Microsoft, none of this is going to happen. Windows 8 will reassert the dominance of the Windows PC. Office and other business products will remain corporate necessities, and developers will never be able to ignore Microsoft. Windows Phone will become a viable third mobile platform, the Xbox will continue to dominate the living room, and new products will surprise the pundits who thought Microsoft couldn't innovate. Even Bing will finally make a profit someday."

This year, it's a lot harder to say much of that. Windows 8 doesn't seem to be reasserting the dominance of the PC. Windows Phone is not a viable third platform. Bing is still burning money. The Microsoft nightmare scenario is actually becoming a reality.
 

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Steve Ballmer must not be praying enough to Jesus.

I guess these guys were though hahahah.

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Gunslinger08

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Have fun with Linux, Perl/Ruby/Java/PHP, Lotus Notes, Novell, Oracle DB, Open Office, the 20 products you need to replace SharePoint, etc. Most consumers just associate Microsoft with Windows and maybe Office. They do a whole lot more. Chances are, the majority of your company's infrastructure runs on Microsoft stuff.
 

AstroManLuca

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I started using Bing. Unfortunately it is still crappy for regular web search results compared to Google. They do have better maps and image search though, IMO.

The new Outlook.com (replacing Hotmail) is really nice as well, looks much nicer than Gmail. The question is whether it's A) good enough that I'd actually be willing to switch (although I could just set up forwarding and I wouldn't have to go around changing my email address everywhere), and B) has spam filtering as good as Gmail's.

Zero desire to get Windows 8. Seems like a step back if you're not on a touch-enabled device.

Office IS a corporate necessity, but seeing as how my workplace just last year switched from Office 2003 to Office 2010, it could be a very long time before we move on to the next version.

Xbox, meh, I have one but I rarely use it anymore. I've stopped paying for Live, it's not worth it given how rarely I use it. And because of paid online and the 360 being an inferior console to the PS3 in nearly every way, I'll probably shy away from ever buying another MS console.

I am intrigued by Windows Phone and if I weren't under a contract I'd switch. Starting to get irritated with Android; the question is whether WP is a viable alternative. Don't want to be stuck with a dead OS. I guess I'll re-evaluate in a year or so when I am eligible for an upgrade.
 

swanysto

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Have fun with Linux, Perl/Ruby/Java/PHP, Lotus Notes, Novell, Oracle DB, Open Office, the 20 products you need to replace SharePoint, etc. Most consumers just associate Microsoft with Windows and maybe Office. They do a whole lot more. Chances are, the majority of your company's infrastructure runs on Microsoft stuff.

I agree. I haven't worked for a single company whose software would run on a mac/linux, unless it was through bootcamp. I even own a mac. Like it, but I can only really do my photography, surfing, and website building on it. If I have to do work, I use my laptop.
 

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The new Outlook.com (replacing Hotmail) is really nice as well, looks much nicer than Gmail. The question is whether it's A) good enough that I'd actually be willing to switch (although I could just set up forwarding and I wouldn't have to go around changing my email address everywhere), and B) has spam filtering as good as Gmail's.

Zero desire to get Windows 8. Seems like a step back if you're not on a touch-enabled device.

I am intrigued by Windows Phone and if I weren't under a contract I'd switch. Starting to get irritated with Android; the question is whether WP is a viable alternative. Don't want to be stuck with a dead OS. I guess I'll re-evaluate in a year or so when I am eligible for an upgrade.

Agree with you. What's wrong with android, assuming that you have it rooted?
 

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Except Windows 95 wasn't shit.

Your bottom half is missing an OS. Should start with win2k.

Then the top half would need to have NT 4. They're showing the consumer OSes (although for some reason they showed the professional version of Windows 7). Windows XP is where the XP is where the consumer and professional product lines finally merged. Windows ME was the consumer parallel to Windows 2000.
 

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Have fun with Linux, Perl/Ruby/Java/PHP, Lotus Notes, Novell, Oracle DB, Open Office, the 20 products you need to replace SharePoint, etc. Most consumers just associate Microsoft with Windows and maybe Office. They do a whole lot more. Chances are, the majority of your company's infrastructure runs on Microsoft stuff.

Even that is becoming less and less.

More and more staff are demanding 'dropbox' so at what point do I just find a enterprise friendly version of dropbox for my staff. At 15k a year for storage (based on box.com, dropbox, skydrive, and google drive est costs) I'd save money over my current situation of 125k every 5 years (san upgrades and replacements).

So now I'm using a directory for local login, but everyone wants to byod their ipads, macs, and phones. Cloud based services like salesforce are taking away most of my local apps, so really my directory is just letting you login, which you then get to do for dropbox (or whatever I pick) and salesforce (or other apps). So let's just stop with the directory all together and just manager our users via salesforce or some other cloud product. They could then federate their account info to other cloud services.

Boom, I don't even need a local directory now. Let's stop buying computers now too, we can stipend our users money to buy their own tools.

All of these ideas present challenges, but I see no reason this can't be the norm in 5-10 years.
 

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^Yep, I noticed Win2k missing too.

Windows ME was probably the most shitastic MS product.
 

JM Aggie08

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If you're into the whole cross-over hardware (just picked up a Lenovo Yoga), then Windows 8 is pretty neat. Outside of that, it is not different than 7 in any critical way.
 

AstroManLuca

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Agree with you. What's wrong with android, assuming that you have it rooted?

It's not really bad, it's just kind of kludgy and slow. Maybe it's the hardware, my wife and I both have Galaxy Nexus phones. But they're still dual core with 1 GB of RAM, both rooted and running CyanogenMod 10.1. Jelly Bean did help with the smoothness of some things, but it didn't fix the lagginess inherent in switching between apps and so on.

I've heard a lot of good things about how well Windows Phone runs, that it's more like an iPhone than an Android phone. Whereas with Android, it always feels like the hardware is one generation behind the software.
 

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Your bottom half is missing an OS. Should start with win2k.

Yup. And I like 95 quite a bit... pretty huge leap over 3.1 IMHO

Yep and yep.


I like W7 much more than I originally did (the file manager is still a travesty though), but Office 2010 is retrograde IMO and I can't imagine upgrading for a long time. And I only switched from 2007 so I'd have full compatibility with work.
 
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Sonikku

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The only reason to get 8 was if you were in need of a legit OS for automatic update but were too poor to get 7, back when they were practically giving 8 away. Now windows 8 is kinda pointless.
 

KB

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These stories of Microsoft collapsing are as funny the ones claiming Apple is collapsing. Windows Phone is gaining market share slowly. It won't overtake Apple, but will find some use in low-cost phones. Windows 8 will improve and will find some traction as it is still young and the new low-power Intel architecture is not yet out, although it will not dominate anywhere near as much as XP did. There are still many businesses running programs on Windows that can't be converted to other operating systems. The new XBox console will do fine, everyone will not convert to PS4.

Microsoft does so much, from SQL Server, Exchange, Azure/Cloud to Software for the FBI to track down child-porn. They are always buying other companies or starting up new products like Hyper V. They are huge and will survive in some form for many years to come.
 

Fritzo

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Have fun with Linux, Perl/Ruby/Java/PHP, Lotus Notes, Novell, Oracle DB, Open Office, the 20 products you need to replace SharePoint, etc. Most consumers just associate Microsoft with Windows and maybe Office. They do a whole lot more. Chances are, the majority of your company's infrastructure runs on Microsoft stuff.

I see that a lot, and truthfully Sharepoint is only using by a tiny fraction of businesses. There's also a lot of different concepts to sharing info out there.
 

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Even that is becoming less and less.

More and more staff are demanding 'dropbox' so at what point do I just find a enterprise friendly version of dropbox for my staff. At 15k a year for storage (based on box.com, dropbox, skydrive, and google drive est costs) I'd save money over my current situation of 125k every 5 years (san upgrades and replacements).

So now I'm using a directory for local login, but everyone wants to byod their ipads, macs, and phones. Cloud based services like salesforce are taking away most of my local apps, so really my directory is just letting you login, which you then get to do for dropbox (or whatever I pick) and salesforce (or other apps). So let's just stop with the directory all together and just manager our users via salesforce or some other cloud product. They could then federate their account info to other cloud services.

Boom, I don't even need a local directory now. Let's stop buying computers now too, we can stipend our users money to buy their own tools.

All of these ideas present challenges, but I see no reason this can't be the norm in 5-10 years.

I'm tempted to agree, but will corporations give up that much control? I can see the security guys having a stroke at the very idea of offloading that much responsibility. What about SoX? Any impact there?
 

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It's not really bad, it's just kind of kludgy and slow. Maybe it's the hardware, my wife and I both have Galaxy Nexus phones. But they're still dual core with 1 GB of RAM, both rooted and running CyanogenMod 10.1. Jelly Bean did help with the smoothness of some things, but it didn't fix the lagginess inherent in switching between apps and so on.

I've heard a lot of good things about how well Windows Phone runs, that it's more like an iPhone than an Android phone. Whereas with Android, it always feels like the hardware is one generation behind the software.

The Galaxy Nexus was unveiled jointly by Google and Samsung on October 19, 2011 in Hong Kong. It was released in Europe on November 17, 2011

That's a lot of generations re. phone iteration time. Get with the times pops. <3
 

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It's not really bad, it's just kind of kludgy and slow. Maybe it's the hardware, my wife and I both have Galaxy Nexus phones. But they're still dual core with 1 GB of RAM, both rooted and running CyanogenMod 10.1. Jelly Bean did help with the smoothness of some things, but it didn't fix the lagginess inherent in switching between apps and so on.

I've heard a lot of good things about how well Windows Phone runs, that it's more like an iPhone than an Android phone. Whereas with Android, it always feels like the hardware is one generation behind the software.

the gpu on that device was underpowered for what they made it do from day 1.