Lol, losing weight with body building..

[Scarpozzi]

Changing body composition is what it's about...

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: davestar

Originally posted by: dullard
1) As said above, it can help lose weight.

2) Almost no female truely cares about weight, they care about volume. A pound of muscle has much less volume than a pound of muscle. So REPLACING that fat with toned muscle will accomplish her REAL goal of looking smaller. "Losing weight" is a misnomer, it should be called "losing volume".

well said

Not quite; Fat does not magically turn into muscle

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: davestar
well said

Typed too fast. Oops. It is edited to be correct now.

Originally posted by: Amused
Finally. :laugh:

Were you waiting for me to finally goof up?

LOL!! No, I actually read your post and instead of seeing the mistake, I read what you intended. :laugh:

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Not quite; Fat does not magically turn into muscle

Well, this is a thread about weight lifting and losing weight. If you do it all properly, this is not "magic". You will lose the fat and you will build the muscle.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: davestar

Originally posted by: dullard
1) As said above, it can help lose weight.

2) Almost no female truely cares about weight, they care about volume. A pound of muscle has much less volume than a pound of muscle. So REPLACING that fat with toned muscle will accomplish her REAL goal of looking smaller. "Losing weight" is a misnomer, it should be called "losing volume".

well said

Not quite; Fat does not magically turn into muscle

If I toss my fat girlfriend and replace her with a muscular girlfriend, has my fat girlfriend magically turned into a lean one?

His post in no way implies that fat turned into muscle.

 

[bobdelt]

She might gain weight, but her goal is too lose fat, which she will.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Not quite; Fat does not magically turn into muscle

Well, this is a thread about weight lifting and losing weight. If you do it all properly, this is not "magic". You will lose the fat and you will build the muscle.

You can weight lift and lose weight. It just means smaller amounts of weight and more repetitions.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Not quite; Fat does not magically turn into muscle

Well, this is a thread about weight lifting and losing weight. If you do it all properly, this is not "magic". You will lose the fat and you will build the muscle.

You can weight lift and lose weight. It just means smaller amounts of weight and more repetitions.

Not true at all. High rep weight lifting is no more effective for fat loss than normal reps.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Myths.html

High Repetitions Burn More Fat Myth

Performing lighter weight with more repetitions (15-20 reps, 20-30 reps, or 20-50 reps) does not burn more fat or tone (simultaneous decrease of fat and increase muscle) better than a heaver weight with moderate repetitions (8-12 reps). Weight training utilizes carbohydrates after the initial ATP and CP stores have been exhausted after the first few seconds of intense muscular contraction. Typically a set's duration is 20 to 30 seconds. For the average fit person, it requires 20 to 30 minutes of continuous aerobic activity with large muscle groups (eg. Gluteus Maximus and Quadriceps) to burn even 50% fat; fat requires oxygen to burn. Performing a few extra repetitions on a weight training exercise is not significant enough to burn extra fat and may in effect burn less fat. If intensity is compromised, less fat may be burned when light weight is used with high repetitions. The burning sensation associated with high repetition training seems to be the primary deterrent for achieving higher intensities.

For individuals attempting to achieve fat loss for aesthetics, the intensity of weight training can be a double edge sword. When beginning an exercise program, muscle mass increases may out pace fat losses, resulting in a small initial weight gain. Significant fat loss requires a certain intensity, duration, and frequency that novice exercisers may not be able to achieve until they develop greater tolerance to exercise. If an exercise and nutrition program is not adequate for significant fat loss, a lighter weight with higher repetitions may be recommended to minimize any bulking effects, although less fat may be utilized hours later. If an aerobic exercise and nutrition program is sufficient enough to lose fat, a moderate repetition range with a progressively heavier weight will accelerate fat loss with a toning effect. If a muscle group ever out paces fat loss, the bulking effect is only temporary. For a toning effect, fat can be lost later when aerobic exercise can be significantly increased or the weight training exercise(s) for that particular muscle can be ceased altogether. The muscle will atrophy to a pre-exercise girth within months. Higher repetitions training may be later implemented and assessed.

Higher volume weight training (ie 3 sets versus 1 set of each exercise) with short rest periods of approximately 1 minutes can stimulate a greater acute growth hormone realease (Kraemer 1991, 1993; Mulligan 1996). Growth hormone is lipolytic in adults. It is hypothesized that maximal effort is necessary for optimizing exercise induced secretion of growth hormone. Growth hormone release is related to the magnitude of exertion (Pyka 1992) and is attenuated with greater lactic acidosis (Gordon 1994).

Intense weight training utilizing multiple large muscles with longer rest between sets may also accentuate body lipid deficit by increasing post training epinephrine. Intramuscular triacylgycerol it thought to be an important energy substrate following repeated 30 second maximal exercise with 4 minute recovery intervals (McCartney 1996, Tremblay 1994). Rest periods lasting approximately 4 minutes between maximal exercise exercise of very short duration is required for almost complete creatine phosphate recovery required for repeated maximal bouts (McCartney 1986).

It still may be recommended to perform high repetitions (eg 20-30) for abdominal and oblique training. It has been theorized muscular endurance may be more benifitial for low back health than muscular strength. Furthermore, moderate repetitions with a greater resistance can increase muscular girth under the subcutaneous fat, particularly in men, who have greater potiential for muscular hypertrophy. Increasing the thickness around the waist with existing abdominal fat may further increase bulk, particularly in men who typically have greater intra-abdominal and subcutanuous fat in this area. The abdominal muscularture is composed of relatively small musclemass as compared to the glutes, quadriceps, hamstrings, chest, and upper back. Performing high reps with a lighter resistance should not compromise metabolism or muscle increases as would performing high reps with light resistance on larger muscle groups. See Spot Reduction Myth above.

It is plausible that the high repetition myth was originated and later propagated by bodybuilders that used calorie restrictive diets to shed fat before a contest. Because of their weakened state from dieting, they were unable to use their usual heavier weights. When inquired about their use of lighter weights, they explained they were "cutting up" for a contest. This is merely a theory, but it is easy to see how it may have been misunderstood that the lighter weight was used to reduce fat instead of actually being a result of their dietary regime.

Typically with weight training alone, fat loss is similar to muscle gain, give or take a few pounds. Certain dietary modification can have much greater impact on fat loss than weight training alone. The ideal program for fat loss would include the combination of proper diet, weight training, and cardio exercise.

 

[Parkre]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

No, but it is roughly twice as dense.

...meaning.... it's heavier...

Not to be picky..well yes to be picky, how is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of muscle?

Is that a british pound or an american pound?

no, it's a metric pound ...or europound...I forget which

 

[sourceninja]

Wouldn't the real question be "What is heavier, a 1 inch cube of fat, or a 1 inch cube of muscle?"

I lost almost 30 pounds this year training boxing/jiujitsu/judo. But now as I'm starting to tone up I'm gaining weight. However my pants are getting way to big around the waist.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

No, but it is roughly twice as dense.

...meaning.... it's heavier...

Density has nothing to do with weight, only volume.

What are they teaching in school these days?

Eh? Density is mass/volume.

 

[DougK62]

I always gain weight when I start lifting weights heavily..of course, heavy lifting goes hand in hand with eating like a fat man for me...

 

[EGGO]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

I so almost pulled a and then I saw the username. In which case still warrants a .

I thought that it won't help you lose weight, per se, but it will help you lose fat.

 

[theNEOone]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

No, but it is roughly twice as dense.

...meaning.... it's heavier...

Density has nothing to do with weight, only volume.

What are they teaching in school these days?

whatever they're teaching in school, you didn't learn either.

density = mass/volume


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[Howard]

Originally posted by: theNEOone

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: Golgatha

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

No, but it is roughly twice as dense.

...meaning.... it's heavier...

Density has nothing to do with weight, only volume.

What are they teaching in school these days?

whatever they're teaching in school, you didn't learn either.

density = mass/volume


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[bigfil]

i lost 30 lbs on my quick fix diet
but gained most of it back doing body building

 

[Appledrop]

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

Pretty much.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Heh, my sister thinks you can lose weight by building up muscle or at least becoming 'toned'. Great, so I guess she believe all those bow-flex ads eh? And she refuses to listen to anything else, while I keep telling her you need to consume lots of protien to build any muscle at all.

wow.. you are stupid, aren't you?

edit- ah I just saw who posted it hi mango.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: MajinWade
I actually gained weight when I was body building. Muscle is heavy.

Really? Is a pound of muscle heavier than a pound of fat?

Pretty much.

wow.. another bright one here... -_-; hahaha

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: MustangSVT

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Heh, my sister thinks you can lose weight by building up muscle or at least becoming 'toned'. Great, so I guess she believe all those bow-flex ads eh? And she refuses to listen to anything else, while I keep telling her you need to consume lots of protien to build any muscle at all.

wow.. you are stupid, aren't you?

edit- ah I just saw who posted it hi mango.

And he has the audacity to ponder why people call him a moron on this forum.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: MustangSVT

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Heh, my sister thinks you can lose weight by building up muscle or at least becoming 'toned'. Great, so I guess she believe all those bow-flex ads eh? And she refuses to listen to anything else, while I keep telling her you need to consume lots of protien to build any muscle at all.

wow.. you are stupid, aren't you?

edit- ah I just saw who posted it hi mango.

And he has the audacity to ponder why people call him a moron on this forum.

I dont want to be mean.. but I was around when he first joined ATOT .. those were some good times. He posted a picture of him, argued about Pokemon and other things hehehehehe

 

[Starbuck1975]

The focus of body building is not to lose weight but rather to build lean muscle and reduce body fat.

I used to lift religiously in college and while in the Army...got soft, weak and undisciplined when I went to grad school.

3 months ago I decided to get back into a morning weight lifting routine...while my weight has not fluctuated, I have lost 1.5 inches on my waist and have reduced my overall body fat percentage.

Also, the development of lean muscle increases your metabolism such that you burn more fat, and at a quicker rate...so even if you gain weight from lifting weights, you are actually losing fat...which if far more important.

Also, fat turning into muscle or muscle turning into fat are both myths...fat is fat and muscle is muscle...you put on weight and lose muscle definition when you become lazy, weak and undisciplined girlie men.

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Heh, my sister thinks you can lose weight by building up muscle or at least becoming 'toned'. Great, so I guess she believe all those bow-flex ads eh? And she refuses to listen to anything else, while I keep telling her you need to consume lots of protien to build any muscle at all.

When you first start bodybuilding you lose fat and synthesize lean mass at the same time. In a sense you can replace one with the other.

 

[Fingolfin269]

And go ahead and tell your sister that 'losing weight' should not be her goal anyway. Her goal should be to reduce her body fat % since that is what she is really wanting anyway. Throw away the scale...