lol, I had a strange dream today.

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shud

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Originally posted by: jEct2
In the dream, I woke up to my friend touching me sexually and doing sexual acts. At first I was like WTF & Nooo simuntaneously as I'm not personally attracted to her in real life.

But like any guys, I went along with it eventually.

I just found it hilarious.

We are truly the weaker sex.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: PingSpike
So basically what your saying is "a mouth is a mouth"?

Lol, or a hand is a hand. But I'm not sure if that's true. What would you say?

Whether its because of social norms/conditioning or that I just really that not-into-the-dudes I cannot say with absolute certainly, but I find the idea of a dude sucking away down there almost as undesirable as the idea of doing the sucking. Its not that I find men repulsive. If a guy is good looking, I'll say so. And a guy with a good body is sort of a source of envy. But I look upon them the same way I would admire a horse or a tiger...which is entirely different from the way I look at women. There's less gawking and tent pitching with the horse mainly. And I wouldn't let a horse or a guy go to town on me.

Alcohol might make me more receptive to doing fat/ugly chicks, and certainly allowing them to do things to me...but thats not because I would have found the whole situation entirely undesirable, I am in fact a shameless horndog with relatively slack standards...its more like I "forgot" I was going to get teased incessently by others or the girl might turn out to be a nutjob. The desire was there...its just the reasons that overcome previously it became "blurry".

I would think any guy that let another guy go down on him had that desire in the first place, whether he admits it to himself or not. Not that I personally find anything wrong with it, I think my position as being a big proponent of gay rights is fairly clear. I'm just saying...if the guy said "whoa I was so drunk that I turned gay a little" is most likely full of it.

But from a strickly logical standpoint a mouth is in fact a mouth and you could argue with validity that if you close your eyes and tell him to shut up its just as good as a girl down there. :p Although, I would tend to disagree.
 

GasX

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Since when is a guy having a sexual dream about a female acquintance a wierd thing? :confused:
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
Originally posted by: PingSpike
So basically what your saying is "a mouth is a mouth"?

Lol, or a hand is a hand. But I'm not sure if that's true. What would you say?

Whether its because of social norms/conditioning or that I just really that not-into-the-dudes I cannot say with absolute certainly, but I find the idea of a dude sucking away down there almost as undesirable as the idea of doing the sucking. Its not that I find men repulsive. If a guy is good looking, I'll say so. And a guy with a good body is sort of a source of envy. But I look upon them the same way I would admire a horse or a tiger...which is entirely different from the way I look at women. There's less gawking and tent pitching with the horse mainly. And I wouldn't let a horse or a guy go to town on me.

Alcohol might make me more receptive to doing fat/ugly chicks, and certainly allowing them to do things to me...but thats not because I would have found the whole situation entirely undesirable, I am in fact a shameless horndog with relatively slack standards...its more like I "forgot" I was going to get teased incessently by others or the girl might turn out to be a nutjob. The desire was there...its just the reasons that overcome previously it became "blurry".

I would think any guy that let another guy go down on him had that desire in the first place, whether he admits it to himself or not. Not that I personally find anything wrong with it, I think my position as being a big proponent of gay rights is fairly clear. I'm just saying...if the guy said "whoa I was so drunk that I turned gay a little" is most likely full of it.

But from a strickly logical standpoint a mouth is in fact a mouth and you could argue with validity that if you close your eyes and tell him to shut up its just as good as a girl down there. :p Although, I would tend to disagree.

If I were drunk enough, and knew it would just be for fun, I doubt I would have a big problem with it. In fact it might be fun.
The question is, with the amount of alcohol I ingested, and the fact that I don't find girls attractive, would I be able to maintain anything anyway. More than likely not.
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
If I were drunk enough, and knew it would just be for fun, I doubt I would have a big problem with it. In fact it might be fun.
The question is, with the amount of alcohol I ingested, and the fact that I don't find girls attractive, would I be able to maintain anything anyway. More than likely not.

Why would you have to be drunk if you wouldn't have a problem with it? :) Take alcohol out of the equation.

The dynamics are sort of different because we're in different positions I think. There's of course societal pressures for men to be heterosexual, I suspect you would know this much better than I. I'd be swimming against the current and you'd just be sitting there and letting the current take you, if only for a moment.

Its hard to say whether my own feelings are a product of self reflection or my bending to the whims of social norms. But I consider myself a pretty introspective person that has a pretty good grasp on why I feel the way I do about things, so I believe its the former. Of course I'm bias since I also consider myself smarter most people...but what can I say I'm a conceited ass.
 

Zysoclaplem

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Originally posted by: PingSpike
Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
If I were drunk enough, and knew it would just be for fun, I doubt I would have a big problem with it. In fact it might be fun.
The question is, with the amount of alcohol I ingested, and the fact that I don't find girls attractive, would I be able to maintain anything anyway. More than likely not.

Why would you have to be drunk if you wouldn't have a problem with it? :) Take alcohol out of the equation.

The dynamics are sort of different because we're in different positions I think. There's of course societal pressures for men to be heterosexual, I suspect you would know this much better than I. I'd be swimming against the current and you'd just be sitting there and letting the current take you, if only for a moment.

Its hard to say whether my own feelings are a product of self reflection or my bending to the whims of social norms. But I consider myself a pretty introspective person that has a pretty good grasp on why I feel the way I do about things, so I believe its the former. Of course I'm bias since I also consider myself smarter most people...but what can I say I'm a conceited ass.

If I took alcohol out of the equation, I wouldn't consider it. It's not something that is attractive to me. In other words, I could, but I wouldn't. I find that when I drink I will do things that I would normally not. But like you said, the social consequences wouldn't be as bad for me as they would for you. That's a factor my situation would be lacking...so it's easier for me to give in.