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[Locut0s]

there's no gender restriction for lookin' good

True

But that's an actual cosmetics store, or looks 100% just like a cosmetics store, so like I said, wouldn't occure to me that they would have anything I would buy.

 

[Locut0s]

Grandville St at night is fun.

 

[Locut0s]

Damn horrible quality on that ^

 

[Riceninja]

lets just update this thread with our happenings

for example i was outside new amsterdam cafe last night

 

[lxskllr]

Grandville St at night is fun.

Pic Clipped

Can't see much in that picture, but I like the vibe. It reminds me of mid 20th century USA.

 

[Locut0s]

lets just update this thread with our happenings

for example i was outside new amsterdam cafe last night

Smoking?

 

[Locut0s]

Can't see much in that picture, but I like the vibe. It reminds me of mid 20th century USA.

The buildings along there are of that era as are some of the signs. It's a street with a lot of night life. Trendy bars, night clubs, tattoo parlours, sex shops, theaters, all kinds of interesting shops. It's a real mix of rich and poor, some of it has a fairly rough aspect to it.

 

[Locut0s]

You invariably end up in this situation:

2 customers are on the sales floor or are in line. You get customer 1.

Customer 1: I need a cable to connect my laptop to my TV.

You: Ok what outputs does your laptop and TV have.

1: I don't know I just want to play video on my TV

Y:OK see this here, this is VGA is this what your laptop has?

1:Yup

Y:OK unless your TV has a VGA port as well your options are going to be limited. You will need a converter box to convert the signal from VGA to composite.

1:No I just want a cable. I've seen them!!

Y:Yes I know but you can't use a simple cable with most older TVs, and older laptops the signal types aren't the same. I can sell you the cable but it's not likely to work for you.

Blah blah blah 30 minutes down the drain

Customer 2 goes to the sales guy next to you:

2:I want the fastest computer you can build and I don't care about cost.

FUUUUUUU.......

This of course happens the other way round often enough so I'm not really complaining seriously here, but it certainly causes your eye(s) to twitch when it does happen.

 

[Riceninja]

what happened to your blog thread?

 

[Locut0s]

what happened to your blog thread?

Ooops. Hmm... nothing to see here folks...

Right this WAY...

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2116703

Mods please lock this one.

 

[Locut0s]

You invariably end up in this situation:

2 customers are on the sales floor or are in line. You get customer 1.

Customer 1: I need a cable to connect my laptop to my TV.

You: Ok what outputs does your laptop and TV have.

1: I don't know I just want to play video on my TV

Y:OK see this here, this is VGA is this what your laptop has?

1:Yup

Y:OK unless your TV has a VGA port as well your options are going to be limited. You will need a converter box to convert the signal from VGA to composite.

1:No I just want a cable. I've seen them!!

Y:Yes I know but you can't use a simple cable with most older TVs, and older laptops the signal types aren't the same. I can sell you the cable but it's not likely to work for you.

Blah blah blah 30 minutes down the drain

Customer 2 goes to the sales guy next to you:

2:I want the fastest computer you can build and I don't care about cost.

FUUUUUUU.......

This of course happens the other way round often enough so I'm not really complaining seriously here, but it certainly causes your eye(s) to twitch when it does happen.

 

[BudAshes]

You invariably end up in this situation:

2 customers are on the sales floor or are in line. You get customer 1.

Customer 1: I need a cable to connect my laptop to my TV.

You: Ok what outputs does your laptop and TV have.

1: I don't know I just want to play video on my TV

Y:OK see this here, this is VGA is this what your laptop has?

1:Yup

Y:OK unless your TV has a VGA port as well your options are going to be limited. You will need a converter box to convert the signal fro VGA to composite.

1:No I just want a cable.

Y:Yes I know but you can't use a simple cable with most older TVs, the signal types aren't the same.

Blah blah blah 30 minutes down the drain

Customer 2 goes to the sales guy next to you:

2:I want the fastest computer you can build and I don't care about cost.

FUUUUUUU.......

This of course happens the other way round often enough so I'm not really complaining seriously here, but it certainly causes your eye(s) to twitch when it does happen.

I worked at circuit city when I was a teenager and they were still giving the sales people commission. When I first started working there I just made an hourly wage as you had to be promoted to the commission job and it was hilarious watching these salesman feed b.s. to the customers. Every salesmen knew which brand and which model made him the most commission so inevitably they would just push all customers toward those models no matter what the customer actually wanted. Any thing like a non monster cable that wouldn't make them any money was immediately cause to search out one of the newbies and sluff that customer off on them. These guys were just as bad as used car salesmen, and Circuit City managers completely promoted that behavior even going so far as to constantly get on the back of salesmen who didn't have these terrible tactics because their numbers weren't as high. The blatant lies these dudes said to sell extended warranties were so preposterous, but what did they care? The managers were happy and the person that bought the product would never be able to remember which salesmen told them what when they brought there product back after their dog ate it or whatever and circuit city told them to fuck off.

Once I turned 18 I quit. because that place was the douchiest den of douches you can imagine, and as I was quitting they fired almost everyone on commission and gave all the new salesman hourly wage. Apparently trying to re-train their staff was more difficult than just promoting new morons.

 

[Riceninja]

I worked at circuit city when I was a teenager and they were still giving the sales people commission. When I first started working there I just made an hourly wage as you had to be promoted to the commission job and it was hilarious watching these salesman feed b.s. to the customers. Every salesmen knew which brand and which model made him the most commission so inevitably they would just push all customers toward those models no matter what the customer actually wanted. Any thing like a non monster cable that wouldn't make them any money was immediately cause to search out one of the newbies and sluff that customer off on them. These guys were just as bad as used car salesmen, and Circuit City managers completely promoted that behavior even going so far as to constantly get on the back of salesmen who didn't have these terrible tactics because their numbers weren't as high. The blatant lies these dudes said to sell extended warranties were so preposterous, but what did they care? The managers were happy and the person that bought the product would never be able to remember which salesmen told them what when they brought there product back after their dog ate it or whatever and circuit city told them to fuck off.

in canada, we call these people futureshop employees

 

[Locut0s]

I worked at circuit city when I was a teenager and they were still giving the sales people commission. When I first started working there I just made an hourly wage as you had to be promoted to the commission job and it was hilarious watching these salesman feed b.s. to the customers. Every salesmen knew which brand and which model made him the most commission so inevitably they would just push all customers toward those models no matter what the customer actually wanted. Any thing like a non monster cable that wouldn't make them any money was immediately cause to search out one of the newbies and sluff that customer off on them. These guys were just as bad as used car salesmen, and Circuit City managers completely promoted that behavior even going so far as to constantly get on the back of salesmen who didn't have these terrible tactics because their numbers weren't as high. The blatant lies these dudes said to sell extended warranties were so preposterous, but what did they care? The managers were happy and the person that bought the product would never be able to remember which salesmen told them what when they brought there product back after their dog ate it or whatever and circuit city told them to fuck off.

Once I turned 18 I quit. because that place was the douchiest den of douches you can imagine, and as I was quitting they fired almost everyone on commission and gave all the new salesman hourly wage. Apparently trying to re-train their staff was more difficult than just promoting new morons.

One nice thing about where I work from the customers point of view is that we tend to hire people who are really interested in tech to begin with. Most of our staff know a heck of a lot more about tech than employees at the big box stores do, though I have to admit I know less than some of my fellow employees (still more than most sales people in large stores though). We are a computer hardware enthusiast company so a LOT of our customers coming in already know a hell of a lot about computers to begin with. Then there's the fact that we don't earn commission based on the GP on the item but on the total retail price. So it's a fixed amount of the total retail and not the GP, so there's less of an incentive to just push the high GP items.

 

[Locut0s]

in canada, we call these people futureshop employees

Yes yes yes. I ordered my 58in plasma (yes bragging) about 5 years ago from FS and when I did the sales guy there really tried to push some monster cables onto me. I didn't blame the guy one bit because I knew that's what he made his commission on but it was funny trying to explain to him that a $5 cable really would suffice for my needs.

 

[guyver01]

You invariably end up in this situation:

2 customers are on the sales floor or are in line. You get customer 1.

Customer 1: I need a cable to connect my laptop to my TV.

You: Ok what outputs does your laptop and TV have.

1: I don't know I just want to play video on my TV

Y:OK see this here, this is VGA is this what your laptop has?

1:Yup

Y:OK unless your TV has a VGA port as well your options are going to be limited. You will need a converter box to convert the signal from VGA to composite.

1:No I just want a cable. I've seen them!!

Y:Yes I know but you can't use a simple cable with most older TVs, and older laptops the signal types aren't the same. I can sell you the cable but it's not likely to work for you.

This .. of course... is where you're a fail salesman.. and a fail pc tech.

all the customer wanted was a VGA to Component Video cable.

edit:

here you go. linked righ on your own companies website

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53158&vpn=HD15CPNTMF&manufacture=Startech%2Ecom%20Ltd

2 minute sale.. at most.

 

[MotionMan]

OP, a good salesman would have been able to convince Customer No. 1 to buy a new laptop AND a new TV AND a full set of Monster cables to go with them (along with the extended warranty for the laptop, TV AND cables).

Sales Fail!!!










MotionMan

 

[MovingTarget]

A good sale is like a good wedgie - your victim shouldn't see it coming.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

I really miss commissioned sales people for wholesale/commercial accounts. Now we deal with 'order takers' and web portals instead of real live people who have a vested interest in your success.

 

[Locut0s]

I really miss commissioned sales people for wholesale/commercial accounts. Now we deal with 'order takers' and web portals instead of real live people who have a vested interest in your success.

Why? A lot of commissioned sales people don't have your best interest in mind and don't need to be nor are very knowledgeable about their field.

 

[Locut0s]

This .. of course... is where you're a fail salesman.. and a fail pc tech.

all the customer wanted was a VGA to Component Video cable.

edit:

here you go. linked righ on your own companies website

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53158&vpn=HD15CPNTMF&manufacture=Startech%2Ecom%20Ltd

2 minute sale.. at most.

No you idiot I'm talking about people who have TVs that have composite / rca in not component. A tv won't except a vga signal over composite and a lot / most laptops won't output a composite signal over vga. You need to convert the signal types. Sure I could sell them just a cable but 9 times out of 10 it will just be coming right back. Dam you are dense.

 

[illusion88]

Same thing waiting tables. You get a six top, all New Yorkers, and all they order is appetizers and water and talk loudly for 3 hours while the two top you passed up on orders three courses and a $200 bottle of wine.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Why? A lot of commissioned sales people don't have your best interest in mind and don't need to be nor are very knowledgeable about their field.

They don't last long in the commercial world because you can always switch to another company. Commissioned sales people who don't know their products don't get our business.

Unfortunately, now days, most companies are equally clueless. Giving good service leads directly to more sales. An obvious and, totally ignored, business practice. Training and finding the right personalities to represent your company is expensive and difficult.

So, leading corporate entities decided to 'cut costs' and 'streamline' their revenues and, smaller companies followed trying to emulate the 'success' of the corporations. That left America with crappy service like the rest of the world and trying to compete with labor costs in other countries.

Service was always the key to American success and has been thrown away by the corporations who do not care about America.

 

[Riceninja]

Same thing waiting tables. You get a six top, all New Yorkers, and all they order is appetizers and water and talk loudly for 3 hours while the two top you passed up on orders three courses and a $200 bottle of wine.

luck of the draw, i guess. in my experience the people that look the poorest often tip the best

 

[Locut0s]

luck of the draw, i guess. in my experience the people that look the poorest often tip the best

Chinese don't tip