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BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I second the Mace suggestion, It has helped my little sister out of a few bad situations. Tasers aren't really that effective, I was gonna buy one for my sister, but i borrowed one a friend had and shocked myself a few times (one of those 50,000 volt ones that runs off a 9V battery) , the thing leaves some little burnmarks, but isnt something that could bring me down. If you opt for a tazer, make sure its got really high voltage, and see if you can find a dummy to test it on to see if it would really help your girl in a bad situation.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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So one of those 'creepy' dark-skinned guys who works with your GF has a crush on her and to date has committed the following atrocities:

-talked about her with various people at work
-talked to her
-flirted with her
-called her at work, which is also his work
-looked at her schedule (which is not a secret document in any place I've ever worked, any employee can look at it)
-has asked her to lunch, which she accepted! (but she didn't want him to think she was interested - wink wink!)

Yeah, OK! Time to call in the Marines. :confused:
 

LordMaul

Lifer
Nov 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: LordMaul
Come on Nik...I've got a ticket for 9:00. We'll give him some good ol' american assbeating. :|

:)

Yeah, you and the "I'm going to squish that bug on the windshield" and accidentally shatter the whole effing windshield. :D My god, dude, I would LOVE to fight next to you :D :D :D

nik

Excellent! I'm printing up fliers right now...how's this:

---------BLANKET PARTY!---------
Grand Hosts: Jeff N. and Nik M.
Guest of Honor: Jose Rodrigez
Tommorow Night at 10!


:D
 

Beau

Lifer
Jun 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I second the Mace suggestion, It has helped my little sister out of a few bad situations. Tasers aren't really that effective, I was gonna buy one for my sister, but i borrowed one a friend had and shocked myself a few times (one of those 50,000 volt ones that runs off a 9V battery) , the thing leaves some little burnmarks, but isnt something that could bring me down. If you opt for a tazer, make sure its got really high voltage, and see if you can find a dummy to test it on to see if it would really help your girl in a bad situation.

Sounds like you didn't get one of the ones that we sell. I've had a law enforcement grade tazer used on me (product demos). It's enough to bring anyone to thier knees. (I have a vhs of the SLC cheif of police getting it demoed on him. He screamed like a girl)
 

snooker

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Apr 13, 2001
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I would meet her everynight she gets off late as well as maybe think about getting a restraining order on him. She would probably be the one who has to get the order since she is the one feeling threatened by him.

 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I second the Mace suggestion, It has helped my little sister out of a few bad situations. Tasers aren't really that effective, I was gonna buy one for my sister, but i borrowed one a friend had and shocked myself a few times (one of those 50,000 volt ones that runs off a 9V battery) , the thing leaves some little burnmarks, but isnt something that could bring me down. If you opt for a tazer, make sure its got really high voltage, and see if you can find a dummy to test it on to see if it would really help your girl in a bad situation.

50,000 is a toy. My 100K taser is a toy.

You can get them <500K, they're quite a bit more powerful.

But mace is simpler & possibly more effective.

Viper GTS
 

NutBucket

Lifer
Aug 30, 2000
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Sorry to hear about that. I guess until he actually does something, which he hopefully won't, there's not much you can do about it. As soon as he makes inappropriate comments or something outside of work, that should be enough grounds, along with what has already happened, to get a restraining order.
 
Feb 24, 2001
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I understand the avoid confrontation/different job idea. She's already taken a stand to him and I say keep it up. Don't let some d00shbag run her life. If she likes working there make it his problem, not hers. Get her a tazer/mace and have her carry it when she walks out. Let her use it on you or herself, it won't kill you, just hurt like a bitch but will let you know what the other guy will feel and that it works.
 

Rilescat

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Jan 11, 2002
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I will lend you my shotgun. Just clean it and dust it before returning it.

JK...seriously. Restraining orders and orders of Harrassment are good deterents.

Only if you really think it is necessary though.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
So one of those 'creepy' dark-skinned guys who works with your GF has a crush on her and to date has committed the following atrocities:

-talked about her with various people at work
-talked to her
-flirted with her
-called her at work, which is also his work
-looked at her schedule (which is not a secret document in any place I've ever worked, any employee can look at it)
-has asked her to lunch, which she accepted! (but she didn't want him to think she was interested - wink wink!)

Yeah, OK! Time to call in the Marines. :confused:

You're an idiot.

nik
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Restraining orders and orders of Harrassment are good deterents.

That's just paperwork.

Exactly. Once you're a statistic, you're a statistic. Paperwork doesn't take the mental, emotional, and physical damage away. And I'll be damned if I don't give it my best to prevent that from happening. Even if nothing happens and the guy doesn't give her another thought, it's worth a little bit extra security to know that she'll be all right.

nik
 

Evadman

Administrator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Feb 18, 2001
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Sorry to hear about that man. I tend to agree with some of what has already been said. It is not her fault, but a new job would probably be the best deterant.

I wish you and your GF luck.
 

Shelly21

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May 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Well the way I see it is you (you and her) have two choices. First you beat the crap out of him. Choice #2, have her quit and get a job elsewhere. While she might like it there it's not that great of a job and she probably can find one as good elsewhere.

I think you should do both of those actions.... Kick him a few times.... A third party trying to insert themselve in a relationship is just a no no...
 
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Maybe she should take a week off or work at an different location...

I dunno, if its really bad ( and I think I would have to be there before I really knew if you were just being a concerned and protective BF, or if this guys is more or less unstable ) sounds like management ought to be willing to give her time off with pay, just let things cool off. They will probably firing that guy pretty soon anyways just to play it safe.

For now, just make sure she is escorted to her car and try not to worry.
 

MrBond

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Feb 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: tcsenter
So one of those 'creepy' dark-skinned guys who works with your GF has a crush on her and to date has committed the following atrocities:

-talked about her with various people at work
-talked to her
-flirted with her
-called her at work, which is also his work
-looked at her schedule (which is not a secret document in any place I've ever worked, any employee can look at it)
-has asked her to lunch, which she accepted! (but she didn't want him to think she was interested - wink wink!)

Yeah, OK! Time to call in the Marines. :confused:
That's harrassment. Looking up her schedule (that only managers are supposed to see) is borderline stalking. Harassment is defined as any action that makes another coworker feel uncomfortable, she was being harassed and was justified in filing a complaint.

 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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It doesn't sound from the story like he's done anything to indicate he's violent. She knows the guy better, so if she actually feels threatened then she should find another job.
 

Bluefront

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Some years ago my GF was raped by one of those "dark-skinned" types, on the way to her car after work. So the possibility of such a thing happening is definitely real. That stun-gun and the mace thing might work, but if not applied correctly, can make the attacker just more angry and more likely to cause physical harm. My personal choice of a defensive weapon for her would be a Baretta 25 cal. Legal or not it fits in a purse easily....will stop most people without even firing. Whatever she gets or does, she has to be 100% serious when she starts any defensive action.......

Is there another restaurant of that type in town? Maybe she could transfer. I'll bet if she even asked the manager about it, he'd fire the guy....which of course could make the situation even worse. Restraining order...don't make me laugh.
 

Nitemare

Lifer
Feb 8, 2001
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Here is what I would do. Find out where he lives, then go knock on his door. Explain to him that you are Chelsea's boyfriend and that you are very jeolous and protective. The last guy got sent to the hospital and you would have been taken in to custody except it was dark and there was no witnesses, plus you wore gloves so there was no fingerprints. Tell him that it would be seriously in both of your best interests that he not persist in his pursuit of your girl because you are not looking forward into spending another night in jail.


Start following him around a little. Make sure he sees you and smile and wave to him. When he starts running from you, then you can stop and Chelsea and you can get on with your lives. Bottom line is she should not have to quit because of this loser.
 

rufruf44

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May 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: Beau6183
Originally posted by: Rilescat
Restraining orders and orders of Harrassment are good deterents.

That's just paperwork.

Exactly. Once you're a statistic, you're a statistic. Paperwork doesn't take the mental, emotional, and physical damage away. And I'll be damned if I don't give it my best to prevent that from happening. Even if nothing happens and the guy doesn't give her another thought, it's worth a little bit extra security to know that she'll be all right.

nik

True, but there's a difference between some dumb loser and a true pscyhopath. At least with it you can distinguish which one you're dealing with. If this guy doesnt stop even after a restraining order comes out, its time for her to find something else. $$$ doesn't mean much when you lost your sense of security.
 

Maverick

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Jun 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

He's hispanic. For some reason, she and several of my other friends (and my MOM) have had problems with hispanics and unwanted sexual advances around here. It must be the water

Man...both my current gf and my ex gf had problem with hispanics harassing them. Both girls are Indian and Hispanics can't seem to tell the difference between them and us. They think any girl with dark skin is one of them. Both girls have been harassed, blatantly stared at, whistled at while they're walking down the street, etc. They'll say stuff in Spanish thinking we don't understand. I took enough Spanish in high school so I can tell what they're saying sometimes. So I know exactly how you must feel about it...I've had to seriously glare at them because they'll start staring while I'm with my gf (even if we're holding hands or have our arms around each other).

Its completely ridiculous...what encourages this behavior? Unwanted advances seem to be ingrained in their culture. I'm not trying to be racist or stereotypical, but I see it way too often and it pisses me off.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Bluefront
Some years ago my GF was raped by one of those "dark-skinned" types, on the way to her car after work. So the possibility of such a thing happening is definitely real. That stun-gun and the mace thing might work, but if not applied correctly, can make the attacker just more angry and more likely to cause physical harm. My personal choice of a defensive weapon for her would be a Baretta 25 cal. Legal or not it fits in a purse easily....will stop most people without even firing. Whatever she gets or does, she has to be 100% serious when she starts any defensive action.......

Is there another restaurant of that type in town? Maybe she could transfer. I'll bet if she even asked the manager about it, he'd fire the guy....which of course could make the situation even worse. Restraining order...don't make me laugh.

Well, the only other one is in downtown Portland which is 15/20 miles or so east and isn't really much an option. There are similar restaurants around, though. But I also agree that he shouldn't be allowed to run her life, which is what he'd be doing if she gets a new job. Even still, it's up to Chelsea. The only violent thing that has come from him is his threat toward me. If he's willing to hurt me to get her, he obviously doesn't respect her enough to not hurt her, though. So who knows.

nik
 

Beau

Lifer
Jun 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Well, the only other one is in downtown Portland which is 15/20 miles or so east and isn't really much an option. There are similar restaurants around, though. But I also agree that he shouldn't be allowed to run her life, which is what he'd be doing if she gets a new job. Even still, it's up to Chelsea. The only violent thing that has come from him is his threat toward me. If he's willing to hurt me to get her, he obviously doesn't respect her enough to not hurt her, though. So who knows.

nik

One splash of that spray, and he'll have a new found respect for anything you want him to :)
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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You're an idiot.
Hey, it wasn't my girlfriend who went to lunch with this guy she doesn't want to give the impression that she likes <wink wink>. That idiot would be none other than you.
That's harrassment [sic]. Looking up her schedule (that only managers are supposed to see) is borderline stalking. Harassment is defined as any action that makes another coworker feel uncomfortable, she was being harassed and was justified in filing a complaint.
Actually, its not. A lot of people feel "uncomfortable" by virtually anything because they're paranoid, have emotional or psychological problems, have prejudices or unreasonable expectations. Therefore, the mere fact that I make you uncomfortable cannot be harassment. Also, the mere fact that I may be flirtatious with a woman also does not constitute harassment.

There must be pervasive advances which have a SEVERE affect on the ability of the employee to do their job or their psychological well-being, which according to nik's description has not remotely occurred, hence my reason for detailing precisely the "offenses" this guy has committed, none of which are particularly offensive nor run afoul of harassment or stalking laws.

I mean, if this guy is so offensive to her, why on earth would she go to lunch with him? When your actions say one thing, and your boyfriend says another, well we know just how 'offensive' she "really" finds this guy...eh?