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dpopiz

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my mom's all worried about the possibility of a draft.
fortunately I'll probably already be in germany before the draft is instated if there is one.

but she wanted me to ask on here to stop her from worrying:

is it possible for the gov to force you to stay in the country? it seems to me that that would be some sort of international human rights tolerance violation


edit please lock:
well, nobody attempted to answer my question because they were all too busy whining about an unrelated topic.

but it was my mistake...sorry I should have known better than to post anything non-technical on ATOT.
 
Oh come on, there's not going to be a draft! You forgot YADT in your title for yet another draft thread.
 
I don't know if i should laugh at you for being a tard or being a pu$$y.

They are not going to re-start the draft. even if they did the odds on you getting drafted are small. Not to mention if you are out of country there is little they can do.

but i think its a good thing you are leaving the country. If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
 
WTF is with all of these people freaking out about the draft? :| I seriously doubt if there was a draft in the future, we have plenty of servicemen and women.

And if there was, I would join and serve my country I love. I'll drop out of college, it would be an honor.
 
You guys worry too much. They'll bump jounior enlisted pay before a draft happens. Or when they get real desperate drop the HS diploma/no weed requirment.
 
Originally posted by: cashman
WTF is with all of these people freaking out about the draft? :| I seriously doubt if there was a draft in the future, we have plenty of servicemen and women.

And if there was, I would join and serve my country I love. I'll drop out of college, it would be an honor.
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That got you a 10.
 
You can tell your mother that if a person is officially signed up on the draft list (which is mandated by law, by the way), and that person happens to be out of the country when they are picked for the draft, then they can be charged with desertion from the army. Why? Well, when you're drafted you are automatically absorbed into the military, and if you're not there at that time you are officially AWOL and will be charged by a military tribunal as such.

If your mom doesn't believe me it says as much on the gov't site responsible for selective service.
 
Thats fantastic. When the government drafts, its drafting because "it needs help in its time of need" (or at least it deserves the benefit of the doubt). By being drafted, the government is asking you to pull through with your obligation to your country for all of these elastic-fantastic freedoms you've got. You're a day late and a dollar short a**hole. Don't want to hold up your end of the deal? Get out and dont come back. I for one will be the first to enlist when the country starts drafting (im draft age). I for one am not too busy to drop what I'm doing when my government needs me... right now they clearly dont. We elect leaders to make decisions for us. Don't like congress surrendering all power over war to the prez? dont vote for your congressmen again, until then, grow a pair.
 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
Thats fantastic. When the government drafts, its drafting because "it needs help in its time of need" (or at least it deserves the benefit of the doubt). By being drafted, the government is asking you to pull through with your obligation to your country for all of these elastic-fantastic freedoms you've got. You're a day late and a dollar short a**hole. Don't want to hold up your end of the deal? Get out and dont come back. I for one will be the first to enlist when the country starts drafting (im draft age). I for one am not too busy to drop what I'm doing when my government needs me... right now they clearly dont. We elect leaders to make decisions for us. Don't like congress surrendering all power over war to the prez? dont vote for your congressmen again, until then, grow a pair.
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Do you actually mean to insinuate that this invasion and occupation of Iraq somehow "protects" our freedoms? Baahahahaaa that's a good one you moron. Please explain that to the mothers and fathers loosing their loved ones and countless Iraqis for this offensive war based on lies. Explain how the undermining of Constitutional rights, international law, the Nuremburg Charter, Geneva Convention by this treasonous, autocratic regime is supposedly for our good? And is somehow of benefit to our long-cherished freedoms and democratic ideals?

Or do you mean freedom of those PNAC racketeers, socialist chicken hawks, and Big Business carpetbaggers to unabashedly profit from the criminal deception of the American people and the ruthlessly spent blood of American troops and that of countless Iraqis, merely in order to pursue their lustful, militant, and highly lucrative world domination schemes?
 
Originally posted by: waggy
I don't know if i should laugh at you for being a tard or being a pu$$y.

They are not going to re-start the draft. even if they did the odds on you getting drafted are small. Not to mention if you are out of country there is little they can do.

but i think its a good thing you are leaving the country. If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
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Originally posted by: waggy
If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
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I would agree if the U.S. was being attacked such as what happened at Pearl Harbor, but choosing not to fight in Iraq is suddenly not "doing your duty"? That's bogus. If someone does not support the war in Iraq and chooses not to fight there they should be allowed to stay out of the fight. People are individuals, not drones of the state to be called up whenever some politician decides to invade a country.
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: waggy
If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
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I would agree if the U.S. was being attacked such as what happened at Pearl Harbor, but choosing not to fight in Iraq is suddenly not "doing your duty"? That's bogus. If someone does not support the war in Iraq and chooses not to fight there they should be allowed to stay out of the fight. People are individuals, not drones of the state to be called up whenever some politician decides to invade a country.
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That's right, America was never meant to galavant around the world freeing people at our expense and blood. The American military was never intended to engage in wars except in self-defense and maybe defence of our allies. The American people were never supposed to pay heavy prices in battle and pocket book for the liberty of others. America was founded to secure rights for its people. It was founded as a great experiment in liberty, in freedom, in equality, in democracy, in republic not the global policeman, and certainly not as a nation that goes abroad killing people in the name of such lofty ideals. City on the hill not the international laughing stock we have become.
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: waggy
If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
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I would agree if the U.S. was being attacked such as what happened at Pearl Harbor, but choosing not to fight in Iraq is suddenly not "doing your duty"? That's bogus. If someone does not support the war in Iraq and chooses not to fight there they should be allowed to stay out of the fight. People are individuals, not drones of the state to be called up whenever some politician decides to invade a country.
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No matter what the cause, your country is calling for your help. For the exchange of your living here and enjoying your freedom to hate the U.S. for being so "free", they ask that you serve if you're called. Is that too much to ask, for all you stupid asshats?
 
as a US Navy veteran, all these threads-posts by young americans that are not willing to serve their country annoy me

but i guess it has always been the case that a tiny percentage of the people actually give a crap about defending the freedom of the huge percentage of people that aren't willing to do it

don't let the door hit you on the way out, there are plenty of people wanting to come to this country and take your place and enjoy the freedom that the US Miltary defends
 
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: waggy
If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
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I would agree if the U.S. was being attacked such as what happened at Pearl Harbor, but choosing not to fight in Iraq is suddenly not "doing your duty"? That's bogus. If someone does not support the war in Iraq and chooses not to fight there they should be allowed to stay out of the fight. People are individuals, not drones of the state to be called up whenever some politician decides to invade a country.
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No matter what the cause, your country is calling for your help. For the exchange of your living here and enjoying your freedom to hate the U.S. for being so "free", they ask that you serve if you're called. Is that too much to ask, for all you stupid asshats?
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It's obviously too much for some people.

People can also be true Americans and fight something they don't believe in.
 
In the unlikely event that this ever happened, and in the even less likely event that it happened before I was 25, I would serve to the best of my ability. I just hope to God that if I fight and die that it is for a worthy cause, like the continued freedom of this country, not like Iraq.
 
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: waggy
If you cant/wont do your duty when asked then you shouldn't live here.
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I would agree if the U.S. was being attacked such as what happened at Pearl Harbor, but choosing not to fight in Iraq is suddenly not "doing your duty"? That's bogus. If someone does not support the war in Iraq and chooses not to fight there they should be allowed to stay out of the fight. People are individuals, not drones of the state to be called up whenever some politician decides to invade a country.
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No matter what the cause, your country is calling for your help. For the exchange of your living here and enjoying your freedom to hate the U.S. for being so "free", they ask that you serve if you're called. Is that too much to ask, for all you stupid asshats?
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No matter the cause the Nazis were only being partiots for the fatherland right?

Your post has about as much content as WMD's in Iraq but I'll just say it's everymans responsibilty to not be a brain-dead flag worshiping sissy and use the standards of war a common decentcy we followed for 250 years. You don't start and offensive war. You don't lie to do it either.
 
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