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[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: ffmcobalt

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: AU Tiger
You sympathize for the 3,000 Somali dead? If any sympathy should be given to them it should be for them being stupid enough to follow the commands of the warlords. They chose to attack the U.S. soldiers. The U.S. soldiers did what was necessary to survive.

agreed

We didn't go there to kill them. We went there to make the world a better place. They attacked us, we defended ourselves.

Yep. And honorably as well.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: jjones
Ah, this must be your first experience with a military movie made in Hollywood. Here's a clue: POV.

i understand. thanks jjones. i just wish we have a movie that showed BOTH sides of the war. not necessarily an anti war movie like Platoon, but more like a movie that showed the people and soldiers of both sides, and ultimately showing that we are all the same that there is really no "evil" that we talk about. thin red line is closest i could think of but still it was still just one POV, that of the americans.

yes, of course! we're all the same! after all, i always see american troops stealing aid people send to ethiopia and using it to control the population...

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28
what makes the US force anymore innocent?? the somali's i suppose were taking orders from the warlord, the US forces are taking orders from chief commander

You obviously know nothing of the politics that drove us to be there in the first place.
Read some history, get back to us.....
Links coming for you ......

This should be quick, but informative....
PBS docu-site on "Ambush in Mogadishu"

 

[Nemesis77]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

what about the 3000 somali's?? 3 THOUSAND. is 19 US soldiers worth more than 3000 foreigners?

Unrelated to this situation entirely some dumb asses on these boards have said that one american life is worth more than any number of afghani/iraqi, etc. lives

Of course all life is equal, but it's only natural to care more about those who are closer to you. And to americans (and most of the world), the americans in Somalia were closer than the somalis.

I care alot more about the 30.000 casualties Finland took during the Winter War, I really don't care that much for the 300.000 russians who died in that war. Cruel and cold, I know. But to me, those russians are just a faceless mob, a statistic, whereas I know several families that have their grandparents among those 30.000.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28
the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. to save themselves from killing the thousands of somali civilians, they should have just blew themselves up.
whats more worse? 3000 somali's died or 19 US died? ah darn it forgot, God is an american.

Before you take another idea and twist it all around, may I suggest something small?

Read.

Read the accounts of veterans of foreign wars.

Read the countless stories where troops of ANY country were sent in to accomplish a peacefull mission -but were forced to be armed because of such hostile territory- and had to resort to using their armaments.


If you truely want an explanation or answer of any kind and aren't just spouting your bullsh|t to be a troll and start flame wars, make an effort to find the answer yourself.


Either that or think of it this way: we're more than you are. The needs of us (knowing the truth) outweigh the needs of you (being stupid) so why don't you, as you said yourself, blow yourself up?

See how rediculous you sound?

 

[jjyiz28]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

what about the 3000 somali's?? 3 THOUSAND. is 19 US soldiers worth more than 3000 foreigners?

Unrelated to this situation entirely some dumb asses on these boards have said that one american life is worth more than any number of afghani/iraqi, etc. lives

huh?? does anyone understand what he said??

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: jjyiz28
what makes the US force anymore innocent?? the somali's i suppose were taking orders from the warlord, the US forces are taking orders from chief commander

The US soldiers were there in the first place to remove the warlords that were starving and killing their own people. When they went in to capture a few key people, they didn't go in with the intent to kill 3000 people. note, I didn't call them civilians because they weren't. THEY started shooting at US. We were only trying to get out.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: Skoorb

what about the 3000 somali's?? 3 THOUSAND. is 19 US soldiers worth more than 3000 foreigners?

Unrelated to this situation entirely some dumb asses on these boards have said that one american life is worth more than any number of afghani/iraqi, etc. lives

huh?? does anyone understand what he said??

Yes, most of the world does. What's YOUR problem?

 

[Mustangrrl]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: Skoorb

what about the 3000 somali's?? 3 THOUSAND. is 19 US soldiers worth more than 3000 foreigners?

Unrelated to this situation entirely some dumb asses on these boards have said that one american life is worth more than any number of afghani/iraqi, etc. lives

huh?? does anyone understand what he said??

Yes.

How old are you?

 

[gopunk]

jjyiz28

i think you're getting on the nerves of quite a few of us. why don't you stop posting, since the needs of the many outweigh the needs of you.

 

[Mustangrrl]

Originally posted by: gopunk
jjyiz28

i think you're getting on the nerves of quite a few of us. why don't you stop posting, since the needs of the many outweigh the needs of you.

If you stop posting, we will definitely honor you, son 😀

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: gopunk
jjyiz28

i think you're getting on the nerves of quite a few of us. why don't you stop posting, since the needs of the many outweigh the needs of you.

LOL... golden 😀

 

[jjyiz28]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: jjones
Ah, this must be your first experience with a military movie made in Hollywood. Here's a clue: POV.

i understand. thanks jjones. i just wish we have a movie that showed BOTH sides of the war. not necessarily an anti war movie like Platoon, but more like a movie that showed the people and soldiers of both sides, and ultimately showing that we are all the same that there is really no "evil" that we talk about. thin red line is closest i could think of but still it was still just one POV, that of the americans.

yes, of course! we're all the same! after all, i always see american troops stealing aid people send to ethiopia and using it to control the population...

yeah we are all the same. you forget all too easily how this nation was founded on. forceful colonizations for one.

 

[DorkBoy]

1st of all it's NOT 3,000

 

[fatbaby]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: jjones
Ah, this must be your first experience with a military movie made in Hollywood. Here's a clue: POV.

i understand. thanks jjones. i just wish we have a movie that showed BOTH sides of the war. not necessarily an anti war movie like Platoon, but more like a movie that showed the people and soldiers of both sides, and ultimately showing that we are all the same that there is really no "evil" that we talk about. thin red line is closest i could think of but still it was still just one POV, that of the americans.

yes, of course! we're all the same! after all, i always see american troops stealing aid people send to ethiopia and using it to control the population...

yeah we are all the same. you forget all too easily how this nation was founded on. forceful colonizations for one.

you wouldn't even be here if it weren't for "forceful colonization". The world probably wouldn't even be where it is if it weren't for us.

And what does colonization have anything to do with somalia?

edit: and btw, the ending says 1,000, not 3,000, get your facts straight

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: jjones
Ah, this must be your first experience with a military movie made in Hollywood. Here's a clue: POV.

i understand. thanks jjones. i just wish we have a movie that showed BOTH sides of the war. not necessarily an anti war movie like Platoon, but more like a movie that showed the people and soldiers of both sides, and ultimately showing that we are all the same that there is really no "evil" that we talk about. thin red line is closest i could think of but still it was still just one POV, that of the americans.

yes, of course! we're all the same! after all, i always see american troops stealing aid people send to ethiopia and using it to control the population...

yeah we are all the same. you forget all too easily how this nation was founded on. forceful colonizations for one.

could you elaborate on where during the period of colonization, america has intercepted aid to civilians and used it to control the population?

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: jjones
Ah, this must be your first experience with a military movie made in Hollywood. Here's a clue: POV.

i understand. thanks jjones. i just wish we have a movie that showed BOTH sides of the war. not necessarily an anti war movie like Platoon, but more like a movie that showed the people and soldiers of both sides, and ultimately showing that we are all the same that there is really no "evil" that we talk about. thin red line is closest i could think of but still it was still just one POV, that of the americans.

yes, of course! we're all the same! after all, i always see american troops stealing aid people send to ethiopia and using it to control the population...

yeah we are all the same. you forget all too easily how this nation was founded on. forceful colonizations for one.

hey jjyiz28: i'm lefty as far as these forums go (even though i'm not), but in this situation, the warlords were keeping food from the people and in violation of gross human rights, not to mention had very active and proven links with people like OBL.... 3,000, or 5,000, the job had to get done. It was probably justified.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28
when the movie ends, in text it says something along the lines of: more than 3000 somali's and 19 US special forces died in the battle. this movie is dedicated to the 19 brave and courageous soldiers. 😕 huh??
did anyone cringe when they first read that?? what about the 3000 somali's?? 3 THOUSAND. is 19 US soldiers worth more than 3000 foreigners?

here's one i made up: a white rich girl was kidnapped by 2 male foreigners foreigners, US special forces killed 10000 innnocent foreigners, to get back the girl, but she was found dead by her captors. this movie is dedicated for that brave little girl that died in the horrific tragedy.

It was 1,000 somali's. I watched that movie last night.

 

[jjyiz28]

Originally posted by: gopunk
jjyiz28

i think you're getting on the nerves of quite a few of us. why don't you stop posting, since the needs of the many outweigh the needs of you.

😀 i think im needed in the "real" world more than you will ever be. hence, the needs of the many with me, still outweigh the needs of you guys against me. 😉

 

[gopunk]

another point... those thousands of somalis were killed, but in an effort to reduce further deaths in that region. just like when we dropped the a-bombs on japan. sure a lot of people died as a direct rseult, but ultimately, it reduced the number of deaths.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: gopunk
jjyiz28

i think you're getting on the nerves of quite a few of us. why don't you stop posting, since the needs of the many outweigh the needs of you.

😀 i think im needed in the "real" world more than you will ever be. hence, the needs of the many with me, still outweigh the needs of you guys against me. 😉

ok, then i think those 19 soldiers were needed more than those thousands of somalis ever will be.

 

[SherEPunjab]

Originally posted by: gopunk
another point... those thousands of somalis were killed, but in an effort to reduce further deaths in that region. just like when we dropped the a-bombs on japan. sure a lot of people died as a direct rseult, but ultimately, it reduced the number of deaths.

doesn't compare Gopunk. I like you, but bad analogy.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: gopunk
another point... those thousands of somalis were killed, but in an effort to reduce further deaths in that region. just like when we dropped the a-bombs on japan. sure a lot of people died as a direct rseult, but ultimately, it reduced the number of deaths.

doesn't compare Gopunk. I like you, but bad analogy.

well it depends on what you're looking at. it's a fine analogy for its purpose, which is to show that deaths can result in less overall deaths.

 

[jjyiz28]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: jjyiz28

Originally posted by: jjones
Ah, this must be your first experience with a military movie made in Hollywood. Here's a clue: POV.

i understand. thanks jjones. i just wish we have a movie that showed BOTH sides of the war. not necessarily an anti war movie like Platoon, but more like a movie that showed the people and soldiers of both sides, and ultimately showing that we are all the same that there is really no "evil" that we talk about. thin red line is closest i could think of but still it was still just one POV, that of the americans.

yes, of course! we're all the same! after all, i always see american troops stealing aid people send to ethiopia and using it to control the population...

yeah we are all the same. you forget all too easily how this nation was founded on. forceful colonizations for one.

hey jjyiz28: i'm lefty as far as these forums go (even though i'm not), but in this situation, the warlords were keeping food from the people and in violation of gross human rights, not to mention had very active and proven links with people like OBL.... 3,000, or 5,000, the job had to get done. It was probably justified.

a thoughful post among all these wasted minds. you know, i generally agree, just though it was funny when i first read that message in the movie thats all. =)

 

[fatbaby]

Originally posted by: SherEPunjab

Originally posted by: gopunk
another point... those thousands of somalis were killed, but in an effort to reduce further deaths in that region. just like when we dropped the a-bombs on japan. sure a lot of people died as a direct rseult, but ultimately, it reduced the number of deaths.

doesn't compare Gopunk. I like you, but bad analogy.

Didn't clinton order us to pull out from the region? So their efforts were in vain? If i'm wrong, call me ignorant.