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Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Ok OK I'll just ask the man himself. I'm sorry!!!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEESH!

You asked,I answered to the best of my ability. Anti-piracy is a biggie with MS though and small business can and is audited for compliance,it's good for all license's to be listed and available,no surprises.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: DannyLove
There are a lot of more factors that I need to know before I decide whether it is right or wrong.

danny~!

Ok what would those factors be? I'm being hypothetical here.

1. The software is legit, purchased it legally through this very forum. I can show any type of print out/receipt if need be. I also have a legit eula and cd-key.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Ok OK I'll just ask the man himself. I'm sorry!!!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEESH!

You asked,I answered to the best of my ability. Anti-piracy is a biggie with MS though and small business can and is audited for compliance,it's good for all license's to be listed and available,no surprises.

Uhm, didn't I say in one of my posts that I have the EULA/CD-KEY CD WITH HOLOGRAPHIC image on hand? Why do you guys think that I'm installing warez. Ask Johnnie from this very forum. I purchased it from him. Trust me, I am not into warezing computers. I would never ever think about installing warez. I will always have the EULA/CD-KEY/CD on hand if MS ever decides it wants to audit our company they can do so without hesitation.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i would not be upset, in fact , i would cut you a check and re-imburse you for the expense

Thanks a lot man, hope you make it to CEO one day.

Also, I've already kindly donated a laser printer to my company, donated two Microsoft Intellisemouse Explorers. I am just a kind guy that would like to see all of our systems up-to-date.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: DannyLove
There are a lot of more factors that I need to know before I decide whether it is right or wrong.

danny~!

Ok what would those factors be? I'm being hypothetical here.

1. The software is legit, purchased it legally through this very forum. I can show any type of print out/receipt if need be. I also have a legit eula and cd-key.


Somebody at your company is in charge of the computers and what ever orograms are installed on them correct?

A simple, two minute conversation is all it takes to bring them into the loop here and given them the license info they need.
 

GroundZero

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Originally posted by: fr
I would have to wonder about you. Why didn't you just reinstall Office 97?

sounds fishy to me.
if he owns the co and a prog got scrogged then he has the original and the liscense for it....
get a re-install from the co and don't worry...
why does he scare the hell out of you?


 

bozo1

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Even though I'm paying for it out of my own pocket. I mean I am just trying to do the company a favor.
That is understood but at many companies, including my own, what you did would be grounds for termination. No unauthorized software, legally purchased or not, is to be installed. Don't know about your specific company, but at most it leads to a license accounting and support nightmares.

So what happens when you open a file with Word 2002 on a file server and it automatically converts it to that format. Now everyone else in the company can no longer open the file. That may not be an issue at your work but it would be for many. That's just one example of hundreds I can think of.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: GroundZero
Originally posted by: fr
I would have to wonder about you. Why didn't you just reinstall Office 97?

sounds fishy to me.
if he owns the co and a prog got scrogged then he has the original and the liscense for it....
get a re-install from the co and don't worry...
why does he scare the hell out of you?

Dood, tell me what is fishy? If you think I am dealing with warez, talk to Johnnie as he is the very one who sold me the copy. I have YET to install it. I did not install it. I'm asking if you would get mad if I DID. I haven't, yet! OK? This is not a huge company like the many companies you all work for. This is a 10-15 man business! So what if he did lose the cd? What's so hard to accept about that? What makes this fishy?
 

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: DannyLove
There are a lot of more factors that I need to know before I decide whether it is right or wrong.

danny~!

Ok what would those factors be? I'm being hypothetical here.

1. The software is legit, purchased it legally through this very forum. I can show any type of print out/receipt if need be. I also have a legit eula and cd-key.

Off the top of my head, saying you even had sufficient rights to do the install, if you haven't yet given me the media and license, then my licensing report is going to show an unlicensed officeXP installation and i'm going to come after you asking why.

Second, there was a time when I worked for a service company and their software used bits of VBA and excel macro code. It only worked with Office97. If you installed Office2000, the software would no longer work properly. We would have a client calling us up asking why their report was screwed up and demanding money back.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: athithi
I would be upset with myself - my company should be doing well enough to atleast provide software that works :) Unless your 'gift' could cause some auditing or tax issues, I doubt it should matter. OTOH, your CEO might feel offended :p

He's an extremely busy guy and our true tech support works for free and I don't know when he would be able to come down. I'm sure all it would take is a re-installation of MS OFFICE 97 and that would be that. But, I like being up-to-date with things. Even though I'm paying for it out of my own pocket. I mean I am just trying to do the company a favor.

If you are feeling worried, think about it this way - you are upgrading some office equipment at your personal expense - so would your CEO be upset if you used a table fan because your cubicle was too hot? I don't think he would be upset as long as installing Word XP does NOT directly affect the work you do to the extent of making it functionally different from what it was earlier. Where I work, we were supposed to use only WordPro since other users without MS Word might not be able to view documents as originally intended. Now practically everyone uses MS Word, but I can still only use Lotus 1-2-3 and not Excel if I do some spreadsheets and send it across to other employees. As long as you are not affecting anyone else, I would suggest you just stop worrying about it. It hardly takes a minute to uninstall anyways.

However, in your position, I wouldn't think of doing any favours for the company I work. Your 'favour' introduces an unknown factor into your company's operations - this instance might have negligible impact, not all do - therefore, your company won't take it too kindly all the time.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: DannyLove
There are a lot of more factors that I need to know before I decide whether it is right or wrong.

danny~!

Ok what would those factors be? I'm being hypothetical here.

1. The software is legit, purchased it legally through this very forum. I can show any type of print out/receipt if need be. I also have a legit eula and cd-key.

Off the top of my head, saying you even had sufficient rights to do the install, if you haven't yet given me the media and license, then my licensing report is going to show an unlicensed officeXP installation and i'm going to come after you asking why.

Second, there was a time when I worked for a service company and their software used bits of VBA and excel macro code. It only worked with Office97. If you installed Office2000, the software would no longer work properly. We would have a client calling us up asking why their report was screwed up and demanding money back.

JESUS CHRIST, READ THE POST READ THE FIRST POST, I SAID I BOUGHT MS WORD NOT MS OFFICE!!!!! WHY DONT YOU READ BEFORE YOU MAKE ASSUMPTIONS??? I SAID MS WORD MS WORD MS WORD MS WORD MS WORD, NOT MS OFFICE XP! WORD XP IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM OFFICE XP. OFFICE XP IS A SUITE OF APPLICATIONS, WORD XP IS ONE APPLICATION.
 
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Ok OK I'll just ask the man himself. I'm sorry!!!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEESH!

You asked,I answered to the best of my ability. Anti-piracy is a biggie with MS though and small business can and is audited for compliance,it's good for all license's to be listed and available,no surprises.

Uhm, didn't I say in one of my posts that I have the EULA/CD-KEY CD WITH HOLOGRAPHIC image on hand? Why do you guys think that I'm installing warez. Ask Johnnie from this very forum. I purchased it from him. Trust me, I am not into warezing computers. I would never ever think about installing warez. I will always have the EULA/CD-KEY/CD on hand if MS ever decides it wants to audit our company they can do so without hesitation.
Get your damn head out of your ass. Geekbabe isn't talking about warez. When a company gets audited, the IT department needs every single license for every single piece of software. The problem here is, you've installed something without your IT personel knowing. When a MS rep sees a copy of Word XP on your machine, what explanation are they going to give?
 

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Lifer
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This is a 10-15 man business! So what if he did lose the cd? What's so hard to accept about that? What makes this fishy?

Even when my present company (400) had 15 people (6 years ago), one of them was an IT guy. There was no formal process for getting software installed, but you still had to at least wander into the IT guy's office and ask him if it was OK.
As for lost media, it is quickly and cheaply replaced with just a phone call to a vendor.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Ok OK I'll just ask the man himself. I'm sorry!!!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEESH!

You asked,I answered to the best of my ability. Anti-piracy is a biggie with MS though and small business can and is audited for compliance,it's good for all license's to be listed and available,no surprises.

Uhm, didn't I say in one of my posts that I have the EULA/CD-KEY CD WITH HOLOGRAPHIC image on hand? Why do you guys think that I'm installing warez. Ask Johnnie from this very forum. I purchased it from him. Trust me, I am not into warezing computers. I would never ever think about installing warez. I will always have the EULA/CD-KEY/CD on hand if MS ever decides it wants to audit our company they can do so without hesitation.



I did not say you wre installing warez, what I said was that your IT person needs to have that info.Btw, there are compliance issues with OEM software sometimes.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Ok OK I'll just ask the man himself. I'm sorry!!!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEESH!

You asked,I answered to the best of my ability. Anti-piracy is a biggie with MS though and small business can and is audited for compliance,it's good for all license's to be listed and available,no surprises.

Uhm, didn't I say in one of my posts that I have the EULA/CD-KEY CD WITH HOLOGRAPHIC image on hand? Why do you guys think that I'm installing warez. Ask Johnnie from this very forum. I purchased it from him. Trust me, I am not into warezing computers. I would never ever think about installing warez. I will always have the EULA/CD-KEY/CD on hand if MS ever decides it wants to audit our company they can do so without hesitation.
Get your damn head out of your ass. Geekbabe isn't talking about warez. When a company gets audited, the IT department needs every single license for every single piece of software. The problem here is, you've installed something without your IT personel knowing. When a MS rep sees a copy of Word XP on your machine, what explanation are they going to give?

We truly don't have an IT rep. One guy who volunteers his own time could possibly be called a volunteer rep. Again you guys have the wrong idea, you guys think I work for some huge company, I don't. I work for a company that is possibly 15 people large.
 

bozo1

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WHY DONT YOU READ BEFORE YOU MAKE ASSUMPTIONS???
Dude, he was just making an example.

You appear to be WAY too defensive in this thread. Sounds to me like you are planning something you know isn't right.
 

nealr

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it's their computer, in their minds, you changed something you didn't have the right to. I guess check your company policy on this stuff, (if they have one).
 

Nocturnal

Lifer
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Why am I getting flamed here being told I'm fishy. All I asked was if you would get mad. Simply put, some of you said yes, some of you said no. Ok I got it, I appreciate it. End of story.

I did not install it, nor did I say I installed it. I bought the software, and if OEM has issues with installing in on a business computer I'll purchase the retail version of it tomorrow.
 

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Lifer
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JESUS CHRIST, READ THE POST READ THE FIRST POST, I SAID I BOUGHT MS WORD NOT MS OFFICE!!!!! WHY DONT YOU READ BEFORE YOU MAKE ASSUMPTIONS??? I SAID MS WORD MS WORD MS WORD MS WORD MS WORD, NOT MS OFFICE XP! WORD XP IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM OFFICE XP. OFFICE XP IS A SUITE OF APPLICATIONS, WORD XP IS ONE APPLICATION.

There is no difference in the situation. Word XP. Office XP. Notepad. WinAMP. Minesweeper. I don't care what the hell you bought or are planning on installing. You still are going to monk up my licensing report, and you still are going to potentially monk up the company's software, costing the company time and money.

Don't ask the question if you can't handle the answer, jerk.
 

Nocturnal

Lifer
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Originally posted by: bozo1
WHY DONT YOU READ BEFORE YOU MAKE ASSUMPTIONS???
Dude, he was just making an example.

You appear to be WAY too defensive in this thread. Sounds to me like you are planning something you know isn't right.

Sounds like you're assuming a lot of things.

What do you think I'm planning? I was planning on installing MS WORD XP onto my work computer. But after reading this thread I will definately ask my CEO if it will be OK to do so before touching anything on my work computer. OK? What do you want me to do? Admit I was trying to install warez? No way, ask Johnnie, again, he sold it to me. And if OEM cannot be installed onto business computers I will purchase MS OFFICE XP Professional Retail from Comp USA. No biggy.
 
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Ok OK I'll just ask the man himself. I'm sorry!!!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEESH!

You asked,I answered to the best of my ability. Anti-piracy is a biggie with MS though and small business can and is audited for compliance,it's good for all license's to be listed and available,no surprises.

Uhm, didn't I say in one of my posts that I have the EULA/CD-KEY CD WITH HOLOGRAPHIC image on hand? Why do you guys think that I'm installing warez. Ask Johnnie from this very forum. I purchased it from him. Trust me, I am not into warezing computers. I would never ever think about installing warez. I will always have the EULA/CD-KEY/CD on hand if MS ever decides it wants to audit our company they can do so without hesitation.
Get your damn head out of your ass. Geekbabe isn't talking about warez. When a company gets audited, the IT department needs every single license for every single piece of software. The problem here is, you've installed something without your IT personel knowing. When a MS rep sees a copy of Word XP on your machine, what explanation are they going to give?

We truly don't have an IT rep. One guy who volunteers his own time could possibly be called a volunteer rep. Again you guys have the wrong idea, you guys think I work for some huge company, I don't. I work for a company that is possibly 15 people large.
Great, then tell your CEO, CTO, IT volunteer whoever. Give them a copy of the license and be done with it.

You're being so damned defensive about the whole ordeal, one can't help but be suspicious.;)
 

rival

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why the hell would you buy software for a computer at the place you work? sit there and btch until they fix it