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funboy6942

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Originally posted by: Krazy4Real
We obviously need to know what the temperature is inside and outside the box.

Well the outside temp is 70 degrees but when your at mass flapping the inside gets close to 100 degree F. Till the birds birds die. Which at that point the temp will rised with the decomposing bodies of dead birds in it.

OH extra credit right there. The box is sealed so will there still be the formation of maggots and worms eating the dead birds?

Originally posted by: swtethan
Is this bulk crows? like 10lbs?

Excelent question and I am sorry I didnt touch further on this. They were all hand selected by 1 legged 1 boob hookers and certified by the CMF Inc. (crows motherfvckers incorperated) to be exactly 6lbs, each bird. And there will be aprox 15-20 birds in there depending on its individual size and girth. And also if the moon has hit its zenith. Zomofobahamaflab was not taken into acount so it shale not be graded in this experiment.

And yes each crow can carry a coconut across the sea, and has migrated north to Alaska.
 

Rubycon

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As long as you had someone to count them as you let them fly all the way to Omaha.

hehehehehe Counting Crows. :p
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
As long as you had someone to count them as you let them fly all the way to Omaha.

hehehehehe Counting Crows. :p

You know, for some reason, after I read your reply, I got that short drum roll go through my hear you hear after someone tells a bad joke ;)

Ba doom boom, cheee
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: MS Dawn
As long as you had someone to count them as you let them fly all the way to Omaha.

hehehehehe Counting Crows. :p

one for sorrow, two for joy, three for girls, four for boys, five for silver, six for gold, seven for a secret never to be told.
 

DrPizza

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Sorry, I forgot to answer your other part:
The box weighs just as much, regardless of whether the crows are flying inside or sitting inside.

Anyone who thinks the box would be lighter when the crows are flying - - fools. :p :)
 

MaxFusion16

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: MaxFusion16
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: TravisT
The air would merely be circulating inside the box.


Ok but what about the weight of the box?

same, nothing would change, the box wouldn't be any different.

in a closed system, all forces cancel out.

edit: actually, i beg your pardon, if the box is completely sealed as is in this case, the box would have the combined weight of the box and the crows regardless if they are flying or not.

How do you figure the box will have the comboned weight of the birds when they are flying and not touching the bottom or the top of the box at all? If they are suspended in air in the box they dont have a mass force pressing down on it causing weight. Atleast not till they die and fall to the bottom of the box that is.

to understand this, let's first define weight as a force of gravity.
Force = mass x acceleration, acceleration being gravity.

birds fly by pushing air downwards with wings, and we know from Newton's third law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, hence the wings push on the air, the air push back on the wing, the air pushes on each other.........and ultimately they push on the box. it's this chain of action and reaction that produces the upward force on the bird, hence "suspending" them in midair.

normally, in an open environment, this movement of air is very spread out, so you don't feel crushed everytime a flock of birds or a plane flies overhead. But in a closed system such as a sealed box, the air has no where to go, so they all end up pushing down on the box, this force is equal in magnitude to the weight of the birds.

So the term "suspended" is a misnomer, the crows are no more suspended than me sitting here typing this post, we are both supported by the same reaction force, the "normal force" in physics terms.

The only time where something is really "suspended" in midair is during a free fall, such as that seen in the space station, when everything is falling at the same rate.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Why all the hate? My threads could of been alot worse then this and be like 75% of the others in OT and be all about bitching and hate. I was kidding around in my other one with you, Im sorry. And I was having fun and feeling good too :(:(:(

um, bipolar much?
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: funboy42
Why all the hate? My threads could of been alot worse then this and be like 75% of the others in OT and be all about bitching and hate. I was kidding around in my other one with you, Im sorry. And I was having fun and feeling good too :(:(:(

um, bipolar much?

All the time.
 

DrPizza

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Hey, I thought about the question a bit more. It's true that while the birds are flying, the scale that was weighing the box would show the same weight. But, if the birds all stopped flying instantly, the scale would read much while the birds fell through the air in free-fall. Then, the scale would briefly show a greater force due to the impulse of the birds hitting the bottom of the box.
 

SmoochyTX

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<mental note>Will remember to not remember much of what you type.</mental note>

Once bitten Twice shy baby!