Lobbyists pissed off at Obama. Change we can believe in

[Mursilis]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
This falls under the category of "window dressing" and "for show". The lobbyists still run washington, and will probably always do so. The only thing that changes is which group the lobbyists shower with money to get their needs met.

We have a winner.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

 

[Phokus]

Only conservatives could look down upon the Obama admin for greatly restricting what lobbyists can do with the admin.

Like i said many times before, conservatives are the scum of the earth.

Thankfully we will progress as a society without you.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Only conservatives could look down upon the Obama admin for greatly restricting what lobbyists can do with the admin.

Like i said many times before, conservatives are the scum of the earth.

Thankfully we will progress as a society without you.

It's trolls like you that are the scum of the Internet.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Craig234
Think we'll see 10 or 20 right-wingers posting in this thread giving credit where it's due to Obama, like we do in threads against him?

Probably not now, since you will take implicit credit for it. I'm sure some would rather die, or certainly remain silent, than give you the pleasure.

Yep. Same as they'd rather be right and this country go down the shitter under a (D) administration than be wrong and it prosper. Rush fans are like that.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Budmantom
Yes finally Barrack Hussein Obama has gotten rid of the lobbyists and he has rejected earmarks, he has brought to light all the tax cheats and made them pay, he has been a great steward with our tax dollar not letting a single penny be misspent, he has gone through the budget line by line and gotten rid of all the waste, his administration is transparent and Obama along with Harry Reed and Natzi Pelosi have created the most open and honest government in history.


This is hope and change we can believe in...... I think I just fainted.

You're a joke. Seriously.

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
If lobbyists are mad, somebody's doing something right.

I think ALL income outside of the federal salary should be permanently banned, and that furthermore, each congressman or senator should only receive the average income for his or her state on a yearly basis, or alternatively, what an army recruit earns in his first year. Punishment for taking bribes (PAC $ is bribes, any other assertions are excuses) should be a mandatory 25-year federal imprisonment in a maximum security facility with rapists and murderers. Campaign finance should be severely limited, to perhaps $10k total, which comes directly out of the candidate's own pockets.

I'm sick and tired of politics being a lifetime, insider, get-rich scheme. If the conditions were very harsh, only the most dedicated public servant would want to persevere through to do a great duty for our nation.

I'm with you totally. China actually did it right with death panelty given to all parties involved in bribing.

 

[Craig234]

I'd say my prediction was proven in spades. I thought there might be 1 or 2 righties who actually would show the intelecutall honesty to compliment him, but the number would be low.

Not zero. It's pathetic.

They aren't going to get improvememnt when they support a McCain who is a big sellout to lobbyists - they had widely infested his campaign - and give no credit for Obama's efforts.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
If lobbyists are mad, somebody's doing something right.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

He's hired almost no lobbyists but he has hired some, you are right about that. In all honesty I'm glad he compromised on that one though, because that sort of strict ideological position is something that Obama tends to be against, and he was probably screwing himself out of some good employees because of it.

He appears to have sharply restricted their influence, but is willing to compromise for people he feels are important. I'm pretty okay with that.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Craig234
I'd say my prediction was proven in spades. I thought there might be 1 or 2 righties who actually would show the intelecutall honesty to compliment him, but the number would be low.

Not zero. It's pathetic.

They aren't going to get improvememnt when they support a McCain who is a big sellout to lobbyists - they had widely infested his campaign - and give no credit for Obama's efforts.

I'm not sure if you are trying to be funny but you have succeeded.

I give Obama an A for posturing and a F for the end result.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

He's hired almost no lobbyists but he has hired some, you are right about that. In all honesty I'm glad he compromised on that one though, because that sort of strict ideological position is something that Obama tends to be against, and he was probably screwing himself out of some good employees because of it.

He appears to have sharply restricted their influence, but is willing to compromise for people he feels are important. I'm pretty okay with that.

This thread is getting better and better, he promised none and dammit get got close.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

He's hired almost no lobbyists but he has hired some, you are right about that. In all honesty I'm glad he compromised on that one though, because that sort of strict ideological position is something that Obama tends to be against, and he was probably screwing himself out of some good employees because of it.

He appears to have sharply restricted their influence, but is willing to compromise for people he feels are important. I'm pretty okay with that.

This thread is getting better and better, he promised none and dammit get got close.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Wanna know what would happen if a republican became president? Lobbyists would flood the government again. Obama did something right and that's why we should be mad at him. Republicans are literally children who should have no say whatsoever.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Kudos to Obama to setting strict standards on lobbying.

I couldn't agree more. :thumbsup:

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Phokus


Wanna know what would happen if a republican became president? Lobbyists would flood the government again. Obama did something right and that's why we should be mad at him. Republicans are literally children who should have no say whatsoever.

Let me see if I got this correct, if a Republican becomes president the lobbyists would flood the government................... and that would lead to billions of tax payer dollars will go to special interest groups...... like the UAW, banks, insurance companies?

I'm glad we have a democratic president like Barrack Hussein Obama that is above doing something like that.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

He's hired almost no lobbyists but he has hired some, you are right about that. In all honesty I'm glad he compromised on that one though, because that sort of strict ideological position is something that Obama tends to be against, and he was probably screwing himself out of some good employees because of it.

He appears to have sharply restricted their influence, but is willing to compromise for people he feels are important. I'm pretty okay with that.

This thread is getting better and better, he promised none and dammit get got close.

You're a joke.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

He's hired almost no lobbyists but he has hired some, you are right about that. In all honesty I'm glad he compromised on that one though, because that sort of strict ideological position is something that Obama tends to be against, and he was probably screwing himself out of some good employees because of it.

He appears to have sharply restricted their influence, but is willing to compromise for people he feels are important. I'm pretty okay with that.

This thread is getting better and better, he promised none and dammit get got close.

You're a joke.

You're almost right, one of us is a joke.

So by liberal standard Bush almost didn't torture anybody.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Kudos to Obama to setting strict standards on lobbying.

I couldn't agree more. :thumbsup:

I think you could if you tried.

 

[fallout man]

hay guys what's goin' on in this thread?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Budmantom

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Was there a statement that he would accept NO lobbyists in his admin; yet he hired 2 or 3.

The day after Obama was sworn in, he signed an executive order that sharply restricts lobbyists' job prospects in the administration. Under the order, an agency can't hire a lobbyist to work in his or her area of expertise unless the White House grants a waiver. So far, it has granted four.

Seems reasonable to me.

He originally stated NONE would be allowed.

He's hired almost no lobbyists but he has hired some, you are right about that. In all honesty I'm glad he compromised on that one though, because that sort of strict ideological position is something that Obama tends to be against, and he was probably screwing himself out of some good employees because of it.

He appears to have sharply restricted their influence, but is willing to compromise for people he feels are important. I'm pretty okay with that.

This thread is getting better and better, he promised none and dammit get got close.

You're a joke.

You're almost right, one of us is a joke.

So by liberal standard Bush almost didn't torture anybody.

One of those things is a war crime, one is a campaign promise. Even you should be able to figure out the difference.

What's interesting to me is that you have to be 13 to sign up for these forums. Assuming you didn't lie about your age when you did it, you have to be at a minimum 19 now. It's amazing to me that someone who is at least around 20 behaves like you do.

 

[Starbuck1975]

How does the story contradict the OP? Your story is about the democratic congress, mine is about the white house.

The true taint of lobbyists resides not at the Executive level but in the Legislative branch...if lobbyists still have access to those who control the purse strings, and set into motion legislation that sets policy, then Obama's promise is an empty one.

Obama promised to eliminate the influence of lobbyists on Washington...that includes the Presidency and Congress...so far we have a few exceptions made in his staffing decisions, and now Congress falling right back into its pattern of making policy decisions influenced by lobbyists...and in the article I references, the coal industry no less, which has been a major agenda item for environmentalists.

Like i said many times before, conservatives are the scum of the earth.

Then again, why am I even bothering to engage in a discussion with you when you make childish statements such as these.

I'd say my prediction was proven in spades. I thought there might be 1 or 2 righties who actually would show the intelecutall honesty to compliment him, but the number would be low.

I will compliment the intent of his agenda regarding lobbyists, as they have far too much sway in Washington, but I have yet to see his delivering on this promise, and Congress seems none to eager to part ways with their lobbyist friends, Democrats and Republicans alike.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Is therre any way Obama can force the lobbyist out of Congress's reach?

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
If lobbyists are mad, somebody's doing something right.

I think ALL income outside of the federal salary should be permanently banned, and that furthermore, each congressman or senator should only receive the average income for his or her state on a yearly basis, or alternatively, what an army recruit earns in his first year. Punishment for taking bribes (PAC $ is bribes, any other assertions are excuses) should be a mandatory 25-year federal imprisonment in a maximum security facility with rapists and murderers. Campaign finance should be severely limited, to perhaps $10k total, which comes directly out of the candidate's own pockets.

I'm sick and tired of politics being a lifetime, insider, get-rich scheme. If the conditions were very harsh, only the most dedicated public servant would want to persevere through to do a great duty for our nation.

Bravo, I couldn't have said it better.

Heres to Obama for some real change.

 

[Cuda1447]

I dislike Obama in many ways, but I think this is some good stuff. Less lobbyists is a good thing, imo.