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LMAO, NVIDIA's CEO is talkin' junk about ATI
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Lifer
I've been into computers a long ass time, since when nvidia first got into the industry and I'm a pretty big nWhore. I still own 2 of their first mainstream video cards, the RIVA 128.
I've seen their successes and failures. Don't underestimate them. Like the article says, they've put down many very good companies, including 3dfx, intel and rendition. They've had a number of failures and short lived performance leads, but they keep coming back.
I've seen their successes and failures. Don't underestimate them. Like the article says, they've put down many very good companies, including 3dfx, intel and rendition. They've had a number of failures and short lived performance leads, but they keep coming back.
Heaven forbid Huang say that nvidia is going to reclaim the performance 'crown.' Who does he think he is?
Sure he could have phrased it in a more complimentary tone, but maybe it was a subtle jibe at Canada's marajuana thing, what with ati being a canadian company and all.
edit: dumb typo
Sure he could have phrased it in a more complimentary tone, but maybe it was a subtle jibe at Canada's marajuana thing, what with ati being a canadian company and all.
edit: dumb typo
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Lifer
It really isn't worth mentioning, as ATi has had a chance to break into the Socket 478 AND Socket A market for well over a year, and so far has done nothing at all in Socket 478 and basically nothing in Socket A (FIC is the only board maker I know of producing ATI-chipset powered boards). ATI may have, perhaps, half of one percent of the entire Socket A market, maybe less. With just Socket A, NVIDIA's nForce1/2 has garnered about 7% of the entire Socket A market, and that's only going to increase with nForce2 from every indication we've seen.
Honestly, I don't see what's holding ATI up from gaining market share in the huge Socket 478 market. I'd have to say it has something to do with Intel's desire to stay the #1 chipset maker, but that's just an educated guess.
this is a close call...
Nvidia has already passed .13 micron process but ATI will have to build from ground up
What I am alluding is that like the articles says, Nvidia might be able to produce derivatives of NV30 based on .13 micron faster than ATI working on a whole new .13 micron, but thats just a guess.
No, I dont own any Nvidia stock, and I have been using ATI products since radeon.
Nvidia has already passed .13 micron process but ATI will have to build from ground up
What I am alluding is that like the articles says, Nvidia might be able to produce derivatives of NV30 based on .13 micron faster than ATI working on a whole new .13 micron, but thats just a guess.
No, I dont own any Nvidia stock, and I have been using ATI products since radeon.
GTaudiophile
Lifer
ATi will have a .13mu part out in a month in the form of RV350. Granted, it won't be a totally new core, but it will be a derivation of R300, which is already a fairly complex core. R400 will probably be the true test for ATi though.
Wolfsraider
Diamond Member
me grabs my bag of bones
gives them a shake
dumps them on the ground
scratches chin hmmmm
this is going to be a very intresting year lol
gives them a shake
dumps them on the ground
scratches chin hmmmm
this is going to be a very intresting year lol
Nvidia did not put down Intel or Rendition. After the 2200 series, the Rendition team didnt even try to develop anything new. They just got shuffled back and forth between companies. The only intel chipset was the i740, but that wasnt really Intel's, it was more or less bought property from a third party company for use in Intel's integrated chipsets.
The only company that nvidia put down is 3dfx, but that was mainly due to bad management than anything else.
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Lifer
ugh, against both intel and rendition, nvidia had better cards at the same time frame. All of them were involved in the stand alone 2d/3d card market, but nvidia's cards were either consistently faster, arrived earlier, or some combination of both. I've used both intel and rendition cards of the same time frame.
As a matter of fact, Rendition had a post v2x00 project, a socketed graphics chip with embedded ram that was stillborn, because of high competition. They got bought out by Micron.
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Also there were a number of i740 based cards, all based on discrete i740 chips. The i740 wasn't initially used in integrated graphics, it was intel's first and only foray into discrete video cards. It failed because it wasn't as good as the competition. Guess who that would have been.
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Sounds as if the guy running Nvidia has gotten rich and faggy. When you wake up to whores and boos everyday, you start to forget how you got there. He trampled all those chip makers on his way to the top. Then he asumed the coast would stay clear. Then Unf! What's this!? Left hook knocked his old ass out. *smack* Time for the young whipper snappers to take the reigns. 😀
Ownt.
PS: I have all Nvidia products, I'm not a fanboy. But face facts, Nvidia is fuk0red.
Edit: mispelled the word "coast." ;o
Ownt.
PS: I have all Nvidia products, I'm not a fanboy. But face facts, Nvidia is fuk0red.
Edit: mispelled the word "coast." ;o
Originally posted by: apoppin
Peyote, mushrooms and smoke from a burning GF-FX.
😀
I think DMT will bitchslap reality into a bunch of morphing jeweled bean-bag chairs pouring out of a tear in the wall and puddling into the dancing moon craters in your now multicolored shag carpet. I'm not sure you would want to mix it with 3d graphics though.
I don't understand all the hate mail towards nVidia. It's not like they ever supplied drivers to have their cards reviewed that were specifically written to make the card looked good when it was running quake. I don't know how anyone could ever trust ATI again after the kind of crap they have pulled. I currently own an ATI and a Geforce, and I know that I never have had problems with my nVidia card loosing the ability to do opengl in a game after a patch release or driver update. ATI has a great card right now, but I just don't trust the company to do things the right way all the time.
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Lifer
Exactly it`s getting tiresome IMHO,as for ATI I like them equal as Nvidia two companies two choices.
Looking at the quote ,I read it as Nvidia take ATI serious and respect the 9700 etc,as for the last bit well I think it was just a bit of humour .
Any company that has been or is top dog wants to stay there if they can,I would not underestimate either ATI or Nvidia ,the battle and war is neverending between the two.
Long live ATI and long live Nvidia,we need competition that`s for sure.
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You know whats great about all this?
Not that a bunch of yahoos on some message board are getting kicks out of it, but that what this means is that there's an actual war over performance. Instead of one company taking the lead and holding it and sitting on thier technology making profits, they now have to wage a bitter war to put out the next best chip. And for consumers, this means good things. I hope ATI and nVidia stay neck and neck for some time and continue to swap the "crown" of best performance, if only to keep competitive.
I would be more worried if ATI and nVidia were "buddy-buddy" so to speak, as then they'd just pace themselves and take profits on current technology before ramping up new chips.
Not that a bunch of yahoos on some message board are getting kicks out of it, but that what this means is that there's an actual war over performance. Instead of one company taking the lead and holding it and sitting on thier technology making profits, they now have to wage a bitter war to put out the next best chip. And for consumers, this means good things. I hope ATI and nVidia stay neck and neck for some time and continue to swap the "crown" of best performance, if only to keep competitive.
I would be more worried if ATI and nVidia were "buddy-buddy" so to speak, as then they'd just pace themselves and take profits on current technology before ramping up new chips.
And you don't remember when the 9700 first came out, and Nvidia had no "Ace in the Hole.." Then magically 1 month later I was able to pick up new det 3.XX that gave a 5% performance boost to my GF2....
Which basically broke down to the fact that I could get 10-15 more FPS in Quake 3?
Noooooo they never wrote any drivers that specifically made any one game look good......Nooooooo
GTaudiophile
Lifer
I guess you're referring to the Quake/Quack issue? nVidia pulled a similar stunt before ATi did, but only one company caught hell for it.
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