Discussion LMAO is Aussie Steve drunk posting? RX 5700XT vs RTX 3070 fine wine argument on X

[GodisanAtheist]

It was a Soya. I paid in AUD but it looks like 130 USD delivered. As long as you realise the die is used, I think it is a pretty decent deal. The cooler felt very cheap but it works fine. When you consider that the new alternative would be a rx 6500xt running on pcie 3, it seems like it was worth the gamble.

-Yep, 5700xt is the king of the bargain bin used cards at the moment. Can still snag one at the ~$100 mark on eBay here in the US.

Dirt cheap for ~6600xt/7600/3060 performance, which is a tier where RT isn't really going to be much of an option anyway.

Whatever driver issues might have existed with the card at launch are gone now.

 

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-Yep, 5700xt is the king of the bargain bin used cards at the moment. Can still snag one at the ~$100 mark on eBay here in the US.

Dirt cheap for ~6600xt/7600/3060 performance, which is a tier where RT isn't really going to be much of an option anyway.

Whatever driver issues might have existed with the card at launch are gone now.

This brings us to another reason the 2070 super is the winner, it retained the extra cost. Recent sold listings on Ebay show the non blower retail cards go for $200 or more shipped on average.

And some RT features most certainly are an option on that class of card. I've used it on 6600 and A750. The Spiderman games, 2077, BF5, Metro Exodus, and some others are more than playable. And games now requiring hardware RT isn't something that can be wished away to the cornfield. It is going to happen more and more. No mesh shaders, no hardware RT, the worst upscaler on the market, no wonder they can be had for $100.

 

[igor_kavinski]

No mesh shaders, no hardware RT, the worst upscaler on the market, no wonder they can be had for $100.

Perfect for kids who care more about playability than graphics candy

 

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Perfect for kids who care more about playability than graphics candy

That makes no sense. If playability is the goal, they are better off with 16 series for the same money. Low power and heat with single fan ITX models at $100 are perfect for the old 8th gen i7 office PCs with their cheesy PSUs and poor case cooling. It is still a meta for kids looking to get into PC gaming, to buy the old office PCs and rehab them.

But this is all deflection. None of it addresses the topic. I contend the 2070 super aged better and provided vids and evidence. What you got dawg?

 

[GodisanAtheist]

That makes no sense. If playability is the goal, they are better off with 16 series for the same money. Low power and heat with single fan ITX models at $100 are perfect for the old 8th gen i7 office PCs with their cheesy PSUs and poor case cooling. It is still a meta for kids looking to get into PC gaming, to buy the old office PCs and rehab them.

But this is all deflection. None of it addresses the topic. I contend the 2070 super aged better and provided vids and evidence. What you got dawg?

-1660ti is like 40% slower than the 5700xt. Not the same class of card at all...

Ofc the 2070S aged better though, it's a more robust and full featured card than the 5700xt.

 

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Ofc the 2070S aged better though, it's a more robust and full featured card than the 5700xt.

There you go, that's the point of the thread.

 

[GaiaHunter]

I have a powercolor 5700xt red devil.
There was some initial problems with dual monitor that were solved way back when
Other than that still going strong.

 

[GaiaHunter]

There you go, that's the point of the thread.

Considering that a 5700XT could transform into a 6700 XT for a net monetary gain around 2020, I would say it aged way better.

 

[Ranulf]

Considering that a 5700XT could transform into a 6700 XT for a net monetary gain around 2020, I would say it aged way better.

True, but that is the same with many cards. I was foolish to not sell my r9 290 and a couple of rx 480 cards in 2017 or again in 2020/21.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Considering that a 5700XT could transform into a 6700 XT for a net monetary gain around 2020, I would say it aged way better.

Nonsense. The 20 series enjoyed the same price spikes, ask me how I know.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

True, but that is the same with many cards. I was foolish to not sell my r9 290 and a couple of rx 480 cards in 2017 or again in 2020/21.

I listed an old GTX 780 blower model a client gave me for $100. It was gone within the hour. Pandemic pricing did nothing to separate RDNA from Turing. My supers magically turned into an RX 6800 and 7800XT.

 

[GaiaHunter]

That is not my recollection.
The 5700xt used was more than a new 6700xt due to mining.

The 20series cards used weren't more expensive than new 30series cards.

In fact the 5700xt was at that time more expensive than the 2070S.

Anyway isn't the title about the 3070?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

That is not my recollection.
The 5700xt used was more than a new 6700xt due to mining.

Speaking for the U.S. market, this is completely backwards for the pandemic pricing.

The 20series cards used weren't more expensive than new 30series cards.

This I agree with, but it lacks context. They were more expensive than the MSRP for the 30 series. But you could not buy ANY card for anything close to that. And just as with RDNA 1 vs 2, you paid more for the newer generation here in the U.S. with the obvious exceptions of outlier deals made by idiots.

In fact the 5700xt was at that time more expensive than the 2070S.

Again, not in the U.S. market. Nvidia has carried a price premium for a long time here. That extended to pandemic pricing.

Anyway isn't the title about the 3070?

The 3070 was Steve being facetious. If you have read the X thread, and this one, then you should understand why the 2070 super became the focus. It makes no sense to compare the 5700XT to the 3070 outside of Steve bashing it for being 8GB as a way of saying why it also aged like milk. Which I agree with him about.

 

[Thunder 57]

Considering that a 5700XT could transform into a 6700 XT for a net monetary gain around 2020, I would say it aged way better.

True. I was stupid not to take advantage of that.

That is not my recollection.
The 5700xt used was more than a new 6700xt due to mining.

The 20series cards used weren't more expensive than new 30series cards.

In fact the 5700xt was at that time more expensive than the 2070S.

Anyway isn't the title about the 3070?

Ethereum did better on RDNA1 because of the greater memory bandwidth. RDNA2 (and Nvidia) have since cut down on that and "replaced" it with Infinity Cache or L2 cache.