LMAO, Did anyone see the piece on 60 minutes tonight about computers?

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuus! Are you guys this geeky or nerdy that you take things that concern the computer personal and cannot even find humour in teases?

Thank God I'm not forced to live with you guys! No wonder many of you cry your hearts out about being unable to approach chicks. I don't think many sound girls would like guys with such dull sense of humour!

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: luvly
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuus! Are you guys this geeky or nerdy that you take things that concern the computer personal and cannot even find humour in teases?

Thank God I'm not forced to live with you guys! No wonder many of you cry your hearts out about being unable to approach chicks. I don't think many sound girls would like guys with such dull sense of humour!

yeah I'm sure it was all a joke... Especially the part where he bitched and moaned for the whole commentary

 

[Shawn]

very stoopid

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: cpals
I thought it was funny. All of the stuff he says is (to me) just supposed to be for a laugh. I don't think you're supposed to take him serious.

Thank you!!

Has no one else ever listened to Andy Rooney's other rants?

 

[woodie1]

I laughed my butt off. The "START" button thing was priceless. I didn't know there were so many clueless kids on this board.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: luvly
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuus! Are you guys this geeky or nerdy that you take things that concern the computer personal and cannot even find humour in teases?

Thank God I'm not forced to live with you guys! No wonder many of you cry your hearts out about being unable to approach chicks. I don't think many sound girls would like guys with such dull sense of humour!

yeah I'm sure it was all a joke... Especially the part where he bitched and moaned for the whole commentary

You don't watch Andy Rooney much, do you? Bitching and moaning is what he does. Andy Rooney earns his paycheque every week for complaining about something. I'd love to watch you try changing the ribbon in a typewriter while Andy laughs at you for being clueless. This is just one more example of a bunch of geeks needing to feel superior about something.

Oh, also, you deserve to die for making me agree with luvly

ZV

 

[McCarthy]

ness1469
Do you drive? If so you must know how to maintain and repair a car, know how to repair the valve body in an automatic transmission, right?

Do you wear clean clothes? Then you must be the Maytag man because if you don't fix your own washing machine it shows you suck at washing machines.

Then again washing machines don't tend to BSOD unless you put in TidyBowl instead of Tide.

Have you ever used a pen? Ever found one that wouldn't write? Did you take a class in ink formulation or did you just throw it away and get another one?

Just because someone uses a product doesn't mean they should be required to spend the rest of their life learning to maintain it. That's the whole point of this gathered community living humans have been doing for the past couple thousand years, the distribution and specialization of labor thing. But computers are a product that demand you either learn to be your own PC mechanic or spend a lot of money taking them in to shops for repair. "60 minutes will end 5 minutes early tonight, Mr Rooney's computer is in the shop" I can see why he'd just throw it away and replace it to get his work done, like with a pen.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: luvly
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuus! Are you guys this geeky or nerdy that you take things that concern the computer personal and cannot even find humour in teases?

Thank God I'm not forced to live with you guys! No wonder many of you cry your hearts out about being unable to approach chicks. I don't think many sound girls would like guys with such dull sense of humour!

yeah I'm sure it was all a joke... Especially the part where he bitched and moaned for the whole commentary

You don't watch Andy Rooney much, do you? Bitching and moaning is what he does. Andy Rooney earns his paycheque every week for complaining about something. I'd love to watch you try changing the ribbon in a typewriter while Andy laughs at you for being clueless. This is just one more example of a bunch of geeks needing to feel superior about something.

Oh, also, you deserve to die for making me agree with luvly

ZV

I don't watch Andy Rooney ever, the only reason I even saw this is because I was flipping channels after the football game. I'm not exactly in CBS' target audience for 60 minutes since I'm less than 70 years old.

 

[McCarthy]

This is just one more example of a bunch of geeks needing to feel superior about something.

Haha, exactly.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: McCarthy
ness1469
Do you drive? If so you must know how to maintain and repair a car, know how to repair the valve body in an automatic transmission, right?

Do you wear clean clothes? Then you must be the Maytag man because if you don't fix your own washing machine it shows you suck at washing machines.

Then again washing machines don't tend to BSOD unless you put in TidyBowl instead of Tide.

Have you ever used a pen? Ever found one that wouldn't write? Did you take a class in ink formulation or did you just throw it away and get another one?

Just because someone uses a product doesn't mean they should be required to spend the rest of their life learning to maintain it. That's the whole point of this gathered community living humans have been doing for the past couple thousand years, the distribution and specialization of labor thing. But computers are a product that demand you either learn to be your own PC mechanic or spend a lot of money taking them in to shops for repair. "60 minutes will end 5 minutes early tonight, Mr Rooney's computer is in the shop" I can see why he'd just throw it away and replace it to get his work done, like with a pen.

then let him write it with his fvcking typewriter and send it off to get typed into Word by someone who knows how to do it. I'm sure he makes enough money to afford that.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: McCarthy

That was sad. :/ How can these people consider themselves "reporters" if they have absolutely no idea about what they are talking about. How in the world can that man compare a typewriter and a freaking computer or even a television for that matter. What's even worse is that millions of people watched it and now think thats how it really is. Screw em and their ignorance.

It was an editorial, not a report. And it did have a basis. As I've been saying for years, a computer is an appliance. Just because it can do multiple things doesn't make it so special. Swiss Army knives have been doing that much longer, and caveman Thor's club could be used to knock something over the head for supper or be used as a walking stick.

But no appliance that I can think of has been accepted with it's faults the way computers have. Look at NFS4's car topic, yes, I support options, most of us do. But when you get in a car there's always a steering wheel. There's always a brake. Things are layed out in a familiar manner. Same with an oven or a washing machine, or up until recently, a TV. With computers there is little familiar and Rooney's comments 'power button here, to here' segued into using a mouse (or kb) to hit a START button to shutdown. That certainly isn't a natural progression and was one thing Bill Gates deserved a smack for. The physical design of computers, no, and I agree he did reduce the usefullness of his commentary by blaming Bill Gates for everything.

But in pointing out that a computer is a tool, or appliance as I've been calling them, he's certainly on the mark. Seven computers in six years is a little hard to understand, though that may have to do with the IT department at 60 Minutes. Or whoever he submits his copy to telling him "no, now we're using Word 11.24 documents" only to find out there isn't a Window 3.x version of Word 11.24 or that the computer he had runs it so slow that it's intolerable.

Technology for technology's sake isn't progess, it's sales. And a consumer making a commentary on the lack of value he's getting for his buck isn't sad or pathetic.

You also have to realize that cars have been around for over 100 years. They started back with the horse and buggy. Where was the steering wheel then? Where was the brake? It took many many years and many many itterations before we standardized on what we have now. Computers as we know them have been around for approx 25 years. Look at how far cars got in 25 years. They were still incredibly buggy. People hated them because they were constantly breaking down. They were incredibly complex to use as well. People who compare cars to computers don't take into account the fact that vehicles are a mature industry. They've had time to work out the bugs and standardize. Computers change every year. Imagine if computers had standardized 15 years ago. We would still be using text files for everything. There would be no innovations. There would be no internet, no xml, no html for that matter, no innovation at all. Someday computers will standardize, but it will be when we reach a point where we have discovered the best way to do things. Right now, we are far from it.

His 7 upgrades thing is a joke. No one is forcing him to upgrade. He can still use his 10 year old computer if he wants Use WordPad in windows 3.1 and create text files. That's what his typewriter did, right? That guy is a loon.

Computers are still in the infantile stage of development.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: luvly
Jeeeeeeeeeeeeezuuuuuuuuuuus! Are you guys this geeky or nerdy that you take things that concern the computer personal and cannot even find humour in teases?

Thank God I'm not forced to live with you guys! No wonder many of you cry your hearts out about being unable to approach chicks. I don't think many sound girls would like guys with such dull sense of humour!

What about guys that pretend to be girls on computer forums? I bet you attract the chicks in droves, luvly.

 

[Tetsuo]

What a maroon

 

[BigJelly]

Seing that Bill Gates made his money selling hardware it is bill gates fault that hardware is different...wait a second anyone with half a fuc#ing brain knows that MS is software.

Perfect example of CBS and their crack team of researchers; another reason why cable news continues to b!tch slap the network news dinosaurs.

Realize that CBS wont do a story on why MS promotes a huge diversity in computer technology:
My computer is made from Cosair, Gigabyte, Thermaltake, Intel, Antec, Benq, Western Digital, Samsung, Lexmar, Leadtek, Creative Labs, ATI, MS, Belkin, and AOpen. With software from MS, Unlead, Nero, Cyberlink, and too much to list.
But if you own a mac, you have a mac processor, a mac motherboard, a mac monitor, a mac mouse, a mac keyboard, a mac floppy drive, a mac cd drive, a mac power supply, and mainly mac software.

Yeah MS the big bad mean business that wants to control everything that you buy. Sounds more like macintosh to me. If you truely wanted a non-monolopy you should buy linux or MS OS and if you want a monolopy that controls everthing about your computer buy a mac.

Will that story ever run? He!! no. Ask yourself, if you own MS or Linux how many different companies made parts for your computer and mac owners how many companies made parts for your computer.

If you truely want diversity and a non-monolopy system you wouldn't buy a mac.

 

LOL, Zenmervolt! Drop the ego already!

"What about guys that pretend to be girls on computer forums? I bet you attract the chicks in droves, luvly."

Yeah, ShotgunSteve! You're so late in the gossip? Sorry your fellow gossips aren't keeping you updated. I'm a lez, you know! I'm attracted to women. I figured there are too many trash talkers amongst men as you've demonstrated, so my affection is for girls. I, very much indeed, attract them in droves. I luv them! We're the lipstick lez! Now does that make you puke or what? :Q

LOL!

 

[0roo0roo]

his complaining was lame, i'm only 20 and i remember dos and the hell it was. i'm sure he remembers.. but its not as cool to talk about how far we've advanced. turning off the pc? push the physical button on most and they shutdown the os automatically. with the rate at this stuff advances, i don't want stuff to be the same.

 

Ooops! I hate this crappy double post.

You go CBS commentator. I usually enjoy his commentaries.

I enjoy hearing the old folks evaluate today's technology or the paradigm shift.

 

[Spoooon]

It's satire, people. It's meant to partially be tongue in cheek and also act as social commentary.

 

[McCarthy]

You also have to realize that cars have been around for over 100 years. They started back with the horse and buggy. Where was the steering wheel then? Where was the brake? It took many many years and many many itterations before we standardized on what we have now. Computers as we know them have been around for approx 25 years. Look at how far cars got in 25 years. They were still incredibly buggy. People hated them because they were constantly breaking down. They were incredibly complex to use as well.

And when were they mainstream devices? When Daimler and Benz were making cars - motorized buggies - there were novelty machines. At the earliest I'd say the Model-T (1908) was a mainstream machine, and though nearly 100 years old, most people driving cars today could run one. Though 50% of the population would have to figure out how to shift manually.

Computers are in their infancy, I agree wholeheartedly there. And if those people hadn't bitched about their cars at the time we'd still be driving Model-T's. Maybe Rooney did a similar commentary blaming Henry Ford for all the woes of the auto industry, almost old enough. And satire wasn't beyond the grasp of most then.

With progress comes change. With change comes moving the power switches around from time to time. There's nothing wrong with questioning how much of the change is progress though.

 

[Tetsuo]

Originally posted by: BigJelly

But if you own a mac, you have a mac processor, a mac motherboard, a mac monitor, a mac mouse, a mac keyboard, a mac floppy drive, a mac cd drive, a mac power supply, and mainly mac software.

lol...that is stupidity at it's best

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: McCarthy
ness1469
Do you drive? If so you must know how to maintain and repair a car, know how to repair the valve body in an automatic transmission, right?

Do you wear clean clothes? Then you must be the Maytag man because if you don't fix your own washing machine it shows you suck at washing machines.

Then again washing machines don't tend to BSOD unless you put in TidyBowl instead of Tide.

Have you ever used a pen? Ever found one that wouldn't write? Did you take a class in ink formulation or did you just throw it away and get another one?

Just because someone uses a product doesn't mean they should be required to spend the rest of their life learning to maintain it. That's the whole point of this gathered community living humans have been doing for the past couple thousand years, the distribution and specialization of labor thing. But computers are a product that demand you either learn to be your own PC mechanic or spend a lot of money taking them in to shops for repair. "60 minutes will end 5 minutes early tonight, Mr Rooney's computer is in the shop" I can see why he'd just throw it away and replace it to get his work done, like with a pen.

Oh yes comparing simple devices with much more complex devices is fair.

lets compare PCs to complex electronics. And you will see theres really no difference in failure rate. Most of the failure rate with PCs is user error. I havent had a BSOD in over two years on any of my machines.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: luvly
LOL, Zenmervolt! Drop the ego already!

"What about guys that pretend to be girls on computer forums? I bet you attract the chicks in droves, luvly."

Yeah, ShotgunSteve! You're so late in the gossip? Sorry your fellow gossips aren't keeping you updated. I'm a lez, you know! I'm attracted to women. I figured there are too many trash talkers amongst men as you've demonstrated, so my affection is for girls. I, very much indeed, attract them in droves. I luv them! We're the lipstick lez! Now does that make you puke or what? :Q

LOL!

Is that your latest claim now? How do you explain the beard?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: luvly
LOL, Zenmervolt! Drop the ego already!

NEVER! If I didn't keep my ego over-inflated who would? Besides, just think of how much less entertaining I would be if I actually did drop it.

ZV

 

[McCarthy]

lets compare PCs to complex electronics. And you will see theres really no difference in failure rate. Most of the failure rate with PCs is user error. I havent had a BSOD in over two years on any of my machines.

That's good that you haven't. I've only had one or two, though there is some software that locks up (I quit using it). I also happen to spend a lot of time researching parts, building my own computer, installing everything from OS to applications with the advanced options, then make sure it works, use it, defrag it, back it up, and still get errors from time to time.

My Ecostar DV3 mpeg2 decoder (Dishnetwork satellite receiver) is pretty complex, isn't it? Yet all I had to do was pop in the access card and put batteries in the remote, voila, a working complex appliance. Though people may get frustrated with their remotes they don't have to spend nearly the same amount of time maintaining their satellite receivers. Want something with rotating media, try a TiVo. And yes, their HDs fail as much as with computers, but again there isn't a steep learning curve or ongoing maintenance unless the HD kerplunks.

To which someone would likely point out their old, what was it, C-Band? satellite equipment. And they'd have a point, it was more complicated and error prone. But it wasn't mainstream, even at the peak of popularity it was a niche. And ready for the consumer market products and services like cable and later minidish systems such as I have are mainstream.

Computers are everywhere, from Preschools to the desk of curmudgeons working for 60 Minutes. But their progress is being driven too much by the niche users (us - AT community, etc) imo. Maybe Mr Rooney could use his typewriter and have someone else retype it into Word; people working in most offices or Wal-Mart Tire and Service don't have the option. And often not nearly the support they should because this infantile product is perceived as mainstream even if it isn't yet consumer ready. Which creates angst and resentment that is somewhat relieved when they turn on their TV (which they didn't have to go to nightschool to learn to run) and see someone else shares their dismay in a satirical commentary.

As much as Rooney's piece bugged a lot of you, it bugs me as muchseeing the comments about it where the satire was unrecognized and people who don't live and breathe computers are run down.

 

"Is that your latest claim now? How do you explain the beard?"

Come on, come on now, dude! Show me your authentic picture now. I imagine you're as ugly as your attitude . . . not that you would be an exception to nerds. How much do you weigh again? I forget. My guess is that you weigh as much as the nerds who cannot believe there are naturally well-shaped people and those who work hard to look that way. You have pictures to go? Or are you too shy and camouflage with your nasty attitude and assumption that no one is hot-looking, intelligent and well-mannered?

Oh yeah, since you think I care what you think rather than laugh hard reading you make a nuisance of yourself, let's try this new story to please you: I'm a transsexual who considers herself lesbian. Happy now, hon'? Got a problem with hot-looking transsexuals who beat your appearance? Sorry, hon'. I'll tone down to make you happy.