LMAO!! Chevrolet SSR pickup $42,000

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: KnightBreed

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Cfour

Originally posted by: NFS4
Yeah right, like I'd pay that much for a New Beetle that humped a Silverado

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http://www.auto.com/industry/iwirb18_20030118.htm

rather have that than a thunderbird

I think just the opposite. The Thunderbird doesn't make claims to be a performance machine, it's a boulevard cruiser. Chevy is trying to pass the SSR off as a performance pickup.

That being said, the Thunderbird has 280HP and the SSR has 285HP. The T-Bird will probably STILL smoke the SSR and the T-Bird actually looks decent compared to that deformed SSR.

I vaguely recall you referring to the Thunderbird design as a "retarded guppy."

I sure did...until I saw one in person. Pics don't do the car justice. I was at the Ford dealership on Saturday to pay for service being done to my dad's F-150. After paying, I went into the showroom where they had a Sea Blue T-Bird with the hardtop on. It looked fabulous.

 

[BooneRebel]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
<<the size and luxury appointments put the Sixteen in the same class as Bentley, Maybach, and Rolls Royce. >>

You actually said Rolls Royce and Bentley in the same breath as Caddy. You sir should be shot.

Bentley's and RR are HAND BUILT down to the hand stitched leather. To even suggest that GM could create a car of the quality that Bentley/RR do is wrong, so wrong.

GM's just trying to do this whole "bigger = better" which is NOT the case. If you can afford a $250,000 automobile and want to drive fast, you definitely won't be purchasing a damn Caddy.

It's fugly anyway Only person who'd be driving that crap is Master P. Nice Bling Bling wheels....really has the elegance of a Bentley.

They're not hand built anymore. In fact, they're pieced together in separate countries...

 

[LikeLinus]

GM Fanboy? What?

<<The Sixteen concept was completely hand-built, and I'd imagine the production version would have been as well.>> This is an unknown, but EVERY concept vehicle is hand-built?? They are originally sculped from clay models, then hand built by fiberglass. Then they build it from the ground up. Theres no way of knowing if the car will be hand built or by machines unless GM goes into production.

<<I think your attitude is precisly why the Sixteen won't be built>> THANK GOD GM is listening to me. Whew. I'd so hard when you can't sleep your way to the top to have someone actually listen to you.

<<Uh, have you seen the RR Phantom? Its essentially the same regurgitated design they've been milking since the 50's. The Bentley Arnage/Continental is no better. The Sixteen and Maybach at least stray from the norm, and IMO they're both beautiful.>> As stated, thats YOUR opinion, mine is different. This is a GM. GM doesn't even need to be mentioned in the same breath as RR and Bentley.

<<Bentley's and RR's are hand-built because the customizations and intricate details go beyond what the average assembly line robot is capable of. To say a vehicle is high quality simply because its hand-built is absolute lunacy.>>

I never said hand built was "better" i said RR/Bentley hand builds their cars and they are damn better than a GM. What makes you think GM can just all the sudden up and build a hand-built car that is of the same quality that RR/Bentley has been doing for 40 years? You're smokin crack if you think GM can build a quality product like RR/Bentley.

It's a GM for christ sake!!! Not that there is anything wrong with standard GM everyday driven cars...but to put it on the same level as a Bentley? Riiiiight.

 

[BooneRebel]

And the Bentley is just a Volkswagen...

 

[LikeLinus]

Who they are now owned by means nothing really. It's still the same company it was, but it's owned by VW.

Sort of like Aston Martin & Land Rover is now owned by Ford. They just purchased the company, but the build is still by the same group. As is the design

WV also now owns Lamborghini

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
GM Fanboy? What?

This is an unknown, but EVERY concept vehicle is hand-built?? They are originally sculped from clay models, then hand built by fiberglass. Then they build it from the ground up. Theres no way of knowing if the car will be hand built or by machines unless GM goes into production.

If the car offers the anywhere near the options offered by Bentley, then they'll have no choice but to hand fit the parts.

As stated, thats YOUR opinion, mine is different. This is a GM. GM doesn't even need to be mentioned in the same breath as RR and Bentley.

Ok, its a GM. What does that have anything to do with the design?

I never said hand built was "better" i said RR/Bentley hand builds their cars and they are damn better than a GM. What makes you think GM can just all the sudden up and build a hand-built car that is of the same quality that RR/Bentley has been doing for 40 years? You're smokin crack if you think GM can build a quality product like RR/Bentley.

Excellent conjecture - claiming a company with 10x the revenue and resources can't produce something that competes with top luxury companies. Have you any proof of this? Given the number of vehicles Bentley and RR manufacturer, I would certainly hope their vehicles are "quality."

It's a GM for christ sake!!! Not that there is anything wrong with standard GM everyday driven cars...but to put it on the same level as a Bentley? Riiiiight.

Whoa, talk about bias.

 

[LikeLinus]

How exactly was that bias? GM products are fine for what they are, but they are trying to compete out of their league.

When did Revenue turn into quality? You apparently haven't ever sat in a GM product. Worst interiors around. Sure they have all that money, but that does NOT translate into quality.

Britney Spears sells 10x the albums of thousands of great bands. Sure she has a good voice and the money to make an album that will sell, but that doesn't automatically give her writing talent. IT's something that RR and Bentley have been doing for years. Hand-Building cars and customizing them specifically to the users needs. Thats like saying someone going from AAA to the major leagues is going to start hitting like Barry Bonds just because he might have the talent to be great some day. GM doesn't have the kinks word out of their vehicles and haven't done it. Plus I've seen the inside of some GM and Pontiacs

The bottom line.....and the most important thing. Who the hell is going to spend $250k on a GM, when they can get a quality, known and respected product like the Bentley or RR. No one in their right minds.

Just like Dupre said on MTV Cribs, you aren't a true player unless you have a Bentley

 

[csiro]

I think GM should skip trying to make all these concept cars into production. They're mostly likely not going to be money makers for them. GM should concentrate on improving the basic quality of their cars before they play around with these concepts.

 

[BooneRebel]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Who they are now owned by means nothing really. It's still the same company it was, but it's owned by VW.

Sort of like Aston Martin & Land Rover is now owned by Ford. They just purchased the company, but the build is still by the same group. As is the design

WV also now owns Lamborghini

Bentley engineering is now in Germany, not merry ol' England. Very much like Aston Martin and Land Rover being owned by Ford. Prior to Ford, BMW owned Land Rover. There are quite a few BMW bits (engines, etc.) found in the current Land Rover lineup, look for these to be replaced by Ford components within the next couple of years.

 

[KokomoGST]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
How exactly was that bias? GM products are fine for what they are, but they are trying to compete out of their league.

Just like Dupre said on MTV Cribs, you aren't a true player unless you have a Bentley

"I'm not a playa I just crush a lot..." = Maybach, Maserati, Aston Martin, etcetc
Seriously, the Caddy 16 seems just fine in it's purpose, a limited edition supersedan. It's not going to be ultraluxury like a Rolls or Bentley, but it should have a lot of similar amenities. The Escalade interior is quite good.

Back on topic, SSR seems seriously overpriced... 32K might be reasonable, but 42?? You're brushing in on ZO6 territory... granted there aren't any sport trucks in production that can keep with a ZO6 but... one sport truck comes to mind for me... GMC Syclone (or if you like SUVs the Typhoon)

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: LikeLinusWhen did Revenue turn into quality? You apparently haven't ever sat in a GM product. Worst interiors around. Sure they have all that money, but that does NOT translate into quality.

You completely missed my point. GM has the money to spend. Given enough time and R&D, I'm sure they could compete against even Bentley.

Britney Spears sells 10x the albums of thousands of great bands. Sure she has a good voice and the money to make an album that will sell, but that doesn't automatically give her writing talent. IT's something that RR and Bentley have been doing for years. Hand-Building cars and customizing them specifically to the users needs. Thats like saying someone going from AAA to the major leagues is going to start hitting like Barry Bonds just because he might have the talent to be great some day. GM doesn't have the kinks word out of their vehicles and haven't done it. Plus I've seen the inside of some GM and Pontiacs

Exactly! GM has the resources to make a great vehicle. You have neither driven in or sat in a Sixteen, yet you're quick to dismiss it as a super-luxocar simply because its a GM.

The bottom line.....and the most important thing. Who the hell is going to spend $250k on a GM, when they can get a quality, known and respected product like the Bentley or RR. No one in their right minds.

*shrug* Lutz has been rather adament about moving Caddy upscale. Though, perhaps not that upscale.

Just like Dupre said on MTV Cribs, you aren't a true player unless you have a Bentley

Should I care what that asshat has to say?

 

[LikeLinus]

No i understood what you said....but i think you said it best "Given enough time and R&D". Which hitting the ground running with a $250,000 V16 with 1000hp? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.

No you shouldn't care what that "asshat" as to say. It was meant as a joke.

I dismiss their car because of the specs and the fact that I have sat in tons of GM's. They can make great cars at times, but the interior's are severaly lacking.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
No i understood what you said....but i think you said it best "Given enough time and R&D". Which hitting the ground running with a $250,000 V16 with 1000hp? I think they need to go back to the drawing board.

No you shouldn't care what that "asshat" as to say. It was meant as a joke.

I dismiss their car because of the specs and the fact that I have sat in tons of GM's. They can make great cars at times, but the interior's are severaly lacking.

if you think that bob lutz the design guru would let GM produce a piece of sh!t uber-lux car then you're insane.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: NFS4


But it's STILL a Caddy!!!!!!! Cadillac lost its prestige 50 years ago.

i think you're exagerating just a little bit there, though not much.

 

[Howard]

The Caddy 16 would like beautiful if it weren't for those wheels and hideous fender vents (?).