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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: The Boss
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Very difficult to get work permit in most European countries. Near impossible to obtain citizenship (unless you're going to jail for political crimes).

Whatever, I'm an American, they'll be glad to have me.

Dream on.

In case you weren't aware, Americans do whatever they want. It's our way. It's one of our more endearing qualities.

You're saying I could get on the phone with Sweden and score an IT job there, then just fly out and go to work?


WTF are you talking about? I am guessing you meant "I couldn't"?

Anyways, of course you'll get a work visa if you are very qualified for the job and have skills that that'll help the Sweedish economy & growth but it definetly IS NOT as easy as you'd think it'd be.

I always just kind of assumed it was easy for an American to immigrate wherever they wanted to.

Oh boy you're disillusioned 😉
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.
 
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

Oh, you're one of those friendly people. STAY AWAY! 😛
 
Is the Canandian media as opinion reporting oriented as American media?

In american news channels there are always "experts" (if you can call them that) debating the pros and cons of it all. Personally I say let people make up their own minds and quit editorializing and sensationalizing the news.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

Oh, you're one of those friendly people. STAY AWAY! 😛

And I thought Canadians were supposed to be socially tolerant. Guess there is always one excpetion to the rule.
 
Perhaps we could do a swap, I give you my american citizenship and you give me your Canadian citizenship. I know you would fit right real well down here in the States.

😉

Edit: Thought you were canadian. Looked at profile and then realized i should have known no real Canadian would have said that.
 
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

Oh, you're one of those friendly people. STAY AWAY! 😛

And I thought Canadians were supposed to be socially tolerant. Guess there is always one excpetion to the rule.

I'm not Canadian. Friendly people frighten me though. You're up to something. I know you are. You can't hide it.
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

I'm not Canadian. Friendly people frighten me though. You're up to something. I know you are. You can't hide it.

the trick is not to look them in the eye, or they steal yo soul!
 
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey

I'm not Canadian. Friendly people frighten me though. You're up to something. I know you are. You can't hide it.

the trick is not to look them in the eye, or they steal yo soul!

I try not to, but some evil force makes it tough. Then that smile. The evil grin. I think they want to eat my :heart:. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

Canada is not a viagra ad, we dont all jump around singing and greeting strangers on the street, but if you ever need help or ask something your will get a polite response for the most part. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: gutharius
Is the Canandian media as opinion reporting oriented as American media?

In american news channels there are always "experts" (if you can call them that) debating the pros and cons of it all. Personally I say let people make up their own minds and quit editorializing and sensationalizing the news.

No, it's much more News orientated IMO. Checkout this link(if you have RealPlayer), in the CBC Newsworld section are three streaming links to Newscasts(last one being best) you can view.
 
Originally posted by: SSP
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

Canada is not a viagra ad, we dont all jump around singing and greeting strangers on the street, but if you ever need help or ask something your will get a polite response for the most part. 🙂

I figure any society, even one under the rule of a dictatorship, has to be friendlier than the one in the urban centers of the states. As far as openness to new ideas, america is quickly reaching its end of tolerance for new ideas that challange people's concepts of the world.
 
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

WTF? We're not rude in Dallas. Fvck you! I'll kill your mother! Go to hell sh!t for brains.
 
Actually, Sweden is one of the easiest countries in Europe to immigrate to... and I think it would be easy for an american/canadian to get a work permit here.
and yes we have phones and alot faster internet connectons then the US.
 
Originally posted by: nCred
Actually, Sweden is one of the easiest countries in Europe to immigrate to... and I think it would be easy for an american/canadian to get a work permit here.
and yes we have phones and alot faster internet connectons then the US.

And goverment subsidized S60Rs?!?! 😀
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: nCred
Actually, Sweden is one of the easiest countries in Europe to immigrate to... and I think it would be easy for an american/canadian to get a work permit here.
and yes we have phones and alot faster internet connectons then the US.

And goverment subsidized S60Rs?!?! 😀

lol. Not yet...
 
Originally posted by: nCred
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: nCred
Actually, Sweden is one of the easiest countries in Europe to immigrate to... and I think it would be easy for an american/canadian to get a work permit here.
and yes we have phones and alot faster internet connectons then the US.

And goverment subsidized S60Rs?!?! 😀

lol. Not yet...

As a Swedish person.... answer me this: Volvo or Saab?
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: gutharius
Is the Canandian media as opinion reporting oriented as American media?

In american news channels there are always "experts" (if you can call them that) debating the pros and cons of it all. Personally I say let people make up their own minds and quit editorializing and sensationalizing the news.

No, it's much more News orientated IMO. Checkout this link(if you have RealPlayer), in the CBC Newsworld section are three streaming links to Newscasts(last one being best) you can view.

Well I did watch but I have to say the third one has a slight sense of sensationalism to it but markedly less than what we endure here in the US.
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: gutharius
Originally posted by: Nebor
If you're actually fleeing the US due to your political views, why not go somewhere farther away? I've always dreamed of moving to Sweden or Israel.

Ideally i would goto europe, but I know how much culture shock affects me. I used to live in Nebraska then moved to Dallas. I was floored at how rude people were and miserable for about 6 months til i realized I needed to stay what I am and not be intimidated by the fact NO ONE, yes I mean NO ONE dares look you in the eye or say hello or even acknowledge your there when you walk down the sidewalk. It is like I live in a HUGE city of ghosts who are afraid to speak to one another, acknowledge one another, or hell even dare get to know thy neighbor. Can you just imagine how bad it would be for me having to learn French and try to acclimate myself to French culture??? I prefer the easier route, Canada and if necessary the French language.

WTF? We're not rude in Dallas. Fvck you! I'll kill your mother! Go to hell sh!t for brains.

Like I was saying. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: nCred
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: nCred
Actually, Sweden is one of the easiest countries in Europe to immigrate to... and I think it would be easy for an american/canadian to get a work permit here.
and yes we have phones and alot faster internet connectons then the US.

And goverment subsidized S60Rs?!?! 😀

lol. Not yet...

As a Swedish person.... answer me this: Volvo or Saab?

Volvo
 
-Socialized medical care pros/cons (I do have need for regular blood work)
If you have good private health insurance in the US your health care will be superior to what you get in Canada.
-Can you simply bypass the socialized medical system and pay to see a doctor?
No. EDIT: somebody mentioned private clinics. I guess maybe they're picking up steam. Basically though no, most of your health care will have to go through the gov't.
-I have heard that you cannot eat beef in Canada? Is this true? Is there a ban or something?
Christ, I really don't have to answer this, do I? What are their hamburgers made of? Polar bear meat?!
-If you were originally an American how hard was it for you to become a full Canadian citizen?
It's quicker to become a CAN citizen than a US one. It doesn't matter your country of origin. Once you become a landed immigrant (their version of the US's greencard), it's a few years then you're good to go.
-Can you recommend any books or resources on the subject?
Anandtech! Where else can you get tons of biased, subjective info? 🙂

 
Is the Canandian media as opinion reporting oriented as American media?
I wouldn't say it's necessarily more opinion oriented, but it's definitely far more left than the US media are. Remember that Canada is a predominantely liberal nation. The citizens there love liberalism and they detest what isn't liberal. Since the US is further to the right you'll see tons of America-bashing (if you think that America bashes Canada it's not nearly as much as the other way around). Much of it is penis envy, but to a great extent many Canadians see the US as the big bad wolf, and they like their media to encourage that viewpoint.
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Is the Canandian media as opinion reporting oriented as American media?
I wouldn't say it's necessarily more opinion oriented, but it's definitely far more left than the US media are. Remember that Canada is a predominantely liberal nation. The citizens there love liberalism and they detest what isn't liberal. Since the US is further to the right you'll see tons of America-bashing (if you think that America bashes Canada it's not nearly as much as the other way around). Much of it is penis envy, but to a great extent many Canadians see the US as the big bad wolf, and they like their media to encourage that viewpoint.

I typically respect your opinion quite a bit Skoorb, but here you're completely wrong in the latter portion of your post.

You've basically implied that the American bashing on Canadians is genuinely motivated, while most Canadian bashing is just penis envy, you're completely wrong. A lot of us here do genuinely disagree with what your country has done over the last few years, which is best exemplified by our former Prime-Ministers position on the war in Iraq. We, by in large, dislike Americans for what is occurring in Iraq, and the pressures applied by the American Government for Canada to develop their army.
 
not sure but i don't think they sell mitsu's up there...

been a while since i've been canadian😛

i remember it as about the same, more boring is all. was too young to experience the political dimension though.

if your a glutton for punishment go live in the farther north parts like cargary🙂 oooh its cold! eh even toronto and stuff has snow, but atleast its got hot summers. now i'm in cali and don't have to deal with snow unless i drive to it.
 
Just another note, this last year, Canada's got a $9.2 billion dollar surplus, which from initial reports are going to go back into defecit, so economically, we've been kicking ass not to mention as of today out dollar is at $0.7984 USD, which is one hell of an improvement over the $0.63 it was prior to Bush and the war on Iraq.

That being said, others have mentioned the media in Canada is far more news oriented, i mean even between watching CBC News and CNNm you CLEARLY see the difference between the two countries. I mean even during our elections coverage as "in your face", as it is say on CNN, it isn't "24/7 politcal candidate coverage with various political analysts and experts". I prefer our media system, it's much less intrusive, IMHO.

--Mark

 
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