purbeast0

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Just curious if anyone else watches this show. I've always enjoyed watching Cops and shows similar to them, but Live PD definitely keeps me interested more than the others. I think the whole fact that it's live (when watching new eps obviously) is just pretty cool. I also definitely think that this show came about because of all the negativity that cops have been getting recently.
 

Paladin3

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I'm watching it as I type this. The deputies are in nearby Spokane County, WA., the nearest "big" city to me up here in North Idaho.
 

purbeast0

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I'm watching it as I type this. The deputies are in nearby Spokane County, WA., the nearest "big" city to me up here in North Idaho.
Closest ones to me is Calvert County in MD but I'm not really close to that other than being in MD.
 

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1. I don't trust that whole live claim. They mean it was live when recorded then they chose what to put on the show which is what anyone else does?
2. Maybe I'd rather have the best of what they recorded instead of a lot of routine traffic stops when they piddle around and I yawn a lot.

At least it shows how fraudulent some of their "dog alerted" claims are.

I didn't mean to seem so negative. As an eye on what they're doing it has some merit but IMO the editing could be done a lot better.
 

purbeast0

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1. I don't trust that whole live claim. They mean it was live when recorded then they chose what to put on the show which is what anyone else does?
2. Maybe I'd rather have the best of what they recorded instead of a lot of routine traffic stops when they piddle around and I yawn a lot.

At least it shows how fraudulent some of their "dog alerted" claims are.

I didn't mean to seem so negative. As an eye on what they're doing it has some merit but IMO the editing could be done a lot better.
Okay Mr. Conspiracy.

They clearly tell you when there are things that happened earlier and it even says on the screen when things happened earlier or it previously aired. You'll also notice that sometimes on the previous recorded stuff they also blur people's faces out because by that time they've told them they don't want to be on TV.

I'm sure if it was all previously recorded they wouldn't let all of the shit and fuck bombs drop either, sometimes from the cops themselves.
 

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I generally enjoy it.

My and two of my kids were watching last night (it may have been a re-run) and we were laughing our butts off at this stoner kid in Florida. Somebody had accused him of trespassing but he said he was subletting a room. The best part was when the cop searched him and found a small baggie of a crystal substance and asked him if it was cocaine. He said, "I'm so stoked you asked if that's cocaine. It's Himalayan pink salt - I take it with me to McDonald's and I put it on my fries instead of that crap they use that kills you." Then the producers put up a graphic that said "Himalayan salt and weed found". He was so high and told the cops "I'm gonna be so bummed when you leave here and take my pot and my bongs".

That young female cop (Loeb?) from Illinois is so adorable. She doesn't look as good when all made up in the studio but when she's on the beat she's cute as can be. I don't think she weighs 100 pounds so I hope she never has to try to take anyone down.
 

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As for live versus recorded...I think it's live-ish. Some of it is completely live but I think most of it is pre-recorded, even if it's just a few minutes prior. Even with as many cameras as they have across the country, 99% of a cop's day consists of extremely boring crap so if they didn't pre-record stuff, there would almost never be any chases, etc., it would mostly be "responding to domestic violence" with two drunk 40 year old rednecks.
 

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^ It's not limited to this show, people have noticed this in real life, people who have never had any drugs in their car, ever. In many studies a dog false alerts more often than a correct alert, making it a pseudo-tool that violates rights more often than it serves the supposed purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjRzOXgweVU
 

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If you get the chance watch "you are under arrest" on netflix which is about Canadian cops. They are complete arseholes. There is this one scene where they put this guy handcuffed into the back of a police car he starts resisting. Then the video cuts and the guy is sitting in the back of the cop car with blood pissing out of his face. With no explanation as to how it happened. Gold.
 
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Paladin3

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^ It's not limited to this show, people have noticed this in real life, people who have never had any drugs in their car, ever. In many studies a dog false alerts more often than a correct alert, making it a pseudo-tool that violates rights more often than it serves the supposed purpose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjRzOXgweVU
The case of Timothy Young was total law enforcement bullshit. I hope that guy sued for tons and won, but not because a dog may or may not have alerted in error. He needs to be compensated for the douchbaggery of the officers and physicians who probed him and violated his rights.

But how does that equal "many studies (where) a dog false alerts more often than a correct alert?" I've been on ride-alongs and know cops can be assholes. Power corrupts. But that doesn't make drug sniffing dogs "pseudo-tool that violates rights more often than it serves the supposed purpose."
 

mindless1

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^ Obviously your mind is made up so why bother.

http://bfy.tw/FdKC

They wouldn't be allowed to search if not for the alert. 4th Amendment.
 
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Paladin3

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"The court has recognized the fact that “false positives” occur and dogs can be as low as 62% accurate. A recent study of three years of data from an Illinois police precinct found a 56% erroneous alert rate."

I really don't care. Keep illegal shit out of your car and you won't have a problem if a dog alerts in error on your car. I understand it's pushing the envelope (way past the breaking point in many cases) of an illegal search, but I still don't care.

I've seen too many fucking dead people because folks refuse to be responsible and only use drugs and alcohol at home. This doesn't mean I want storm troopers kicking in your door for warrantless searches. I don't agree with detaining a car and waiting for a dog either. But if a dog is readily available and it alerts on a vehicle it's more often than not because there are or have been drugs on board.

Really, how I feel about the drug war is that it's total, complete bullshit. Let folks get fucked up on whatever they want to because it's none of my business, so long as they keep it at home and off the streets. We should legalize drugs, remove the monetary rewards LE agencies get for targeting drug users, legalize drug use at home, and put the criminal element out of business. But something has to be done about the huge percentage of drug users who think it's fine to do it while driving. When I hear someone pissed off about a drug dog alert on their car it's usually someone who was smoking in their car, refused the search and a drug dog gave probable cause and they got caught. I'm crying no tears for them.
 

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I really don't care. Keep illegal shit out of your car and you won't have a problem if a dog alerts in error on your car. I understand it's pushing the envelope (way past the breaking point in many cases) of an illegal search, but I still don't care.

You're entitled to waive your 4th amendment rights, but police aren't entitled to waive yours, or mine, for me. What if you just don't want to be hassled, would prefer to get on your way at a traffic stop instead of waiting another half hour plus for a dog to come and sniff around then have the vehicle exhaustively searched and left in disarray? Isn't it even worse (to an innocent person) if you don't have anything illegal in your vehicle?

I've seen too many fucking dead people because folks refuse to be responsible and only use drugs and alcohol at home. This doesn't mean I want storm troopers kicking in your door for warrantless searches. I don't agree with detaining a car and waiting for a dog either. But if a dog is readily available and it alerts on a vehicle it's more often than not because there are or have been drugs on board.

No, according to studies it's as often that there isn't and never was any contraband detected. They don't rig the studies by smoking pot then sneaking it away to get false detections. It's not about irresponsible transport of drugs, it's about false probable cause to violate your rights.

Really, how I feel about the drug war is that it's total, complete bullshit. Let folks get fucked up on whatever they want to because it's none of my business, so long as they keep it at home and off the streets. We should legalize drugs, remove the monetary rewards LE agencies get for targeting drug users, legalize drug use at home, and put the criminal element out of business. But something has to be done about the huge percentage of drug users who think it's fine to do it while driving.

Apples and oranges. How are they supposed to GET their drugs home if they aren't in public whether walking or driving? On the other hand an excessively drug intoxicated driver is probable cause without a dog, should not be allowed to drive away if too impaired to pass their field tests or was driving unsafely (perpetually, not just running one stop sign or whatever) whether it be drugs, alcohol, mental state or vehicle disrepair.

When I hear someone pissed off about a drug dog alert on their car it's usually someone who was smoking in their car, refused the search and a drug dog gave probable cause and they got caught. I'm crying no tears for them.

Catching the guilty does not justify violating the rights of the innocent. If you disagree you are welcome to petition to try to get rid of the 4th Amendment.
 
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The case of Timothy Young was total law enforcement bullshit. I hope that guy sued for tons and won, but not because a dog may or may not have alerted in error. He needs to be compensated for the douchbaggery of the officers and physicians who probed him and violated his rights.

But how does that equal "many studies (where) a dog false alerts more often than a correct alert?" I've been on ride-alongs and know cops can be assholes. Power corrupts. But that doesn't make drug sniffing dogs "pseudo-tool that violates rights more often than it serves the supposed purpose."

https://www.usnews.com/news/article...olonoscopy-by-cops-wins-16-million-settlement
 

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My wife an I try to catch every episode. Lots of fun. And barely into their second season they are improving a lot on what people want to see vs. covering DUI all night long. If you were/are able to catch it, the episide that aired 12/15 was especially entertaining.