live in texas or live in missouri?

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
No.

 

[Fayd]

i'd go texas personally.

 

[neegotiator]

Lived in both Austin and Kansas City, MO. I'd pick Austin, livelier downtown, music scene, better food. Got tired of Kansas City after awhile, not much to do and explore, though pretty damn cheap to live there. Never been to STL so can't say anything bout there.

 

[Blieb]

I've lived in MO and TX ...

I vote Austin ... more young people, much more hip ... big time destination recently for students and young professionals.

Of course it's been a loonnnnnnng time since I lived in either 🙂

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Savij

Originally posted by: Semidevil
anybody have experience w/ 1 or both of these states?

Texas meaning: austin, dallas,
Missouri meaning St louis.

I'm looking for: nice weather, low crime rate, friendly people, more job opportunities, more choice of universities, low cost of living, overall living condition.

Not sure about Texas, but that rules out all of the St. Louis area.

Savij is undoubtedly referring to the 'worst crime city' list. Unfortunately, St. Louis' position on that list hinges purely on some city limit boundary weirdness that the metro area has going on.

The actual City of Saint Louis has about 350k people; the metro area has roughly 3 million. Very roughly, the north half of the City proper has a pretty high crime rate. I would NOT want to live there.

The 'county' (the rest of the metro area), on the other hand, is as safe, if not safer than most cities.

As for your other criteria, here are my thoughts as a long-time resident of St. Louis:

? nice weather - uhh, no. It's cold in the winter. It's hot and humid in the summer. It's 70 degrees & sunny about 4 days a year - shitty the rest of the time.
? low crime rate - see above. Don't live in north City (or downtown unless you're REALLY into the club scene)
? friendly people - people are pretty friendly here, in general
? more job opportunities - is anywhere really great for jobs right now?
? more choice of universities - SLU, Washington University, Webster University; the living conditions around SLU are a little sketchy; the other two have very safe housing available.
? low cost of living - for a city this size, it's very inexpensive
? overall living condition - it's a great place to have kids... several great school districts to live in; lots of parks, etc... I like it here (though I'll be moving when I retire, somewhere with nicer weather)

As with most cities, there are good neighborhoods and bad. North City is a large block of bad neighborhoods. On the other hand, I live here and love it. A short stroll to a park, a corner market, and my kid's soon-to-be elementary school.

Originally posted by: Gerbil333
Both states suck. I live in Missouri.

Gerbil lives in Rolla, a town that only exists because of the state school there. I wouldn't live in Rolla either 😛

Same goes for whoever compared St. Louis to KC - they're totally different cities.

I can't comment on Austin, but I do like the slogan 😉

 

[K1052]

I vote Texas (preferably Austin) due to it being warmer and the fact that it isn't Missouri.

 

[LS21]

austin > slt > dallas

 

[ViviTheMage]

Texas imo...

 

[LordMorpheus]

I like saint louis, but unless you already have a job lined up I wouldn't move there.

Austin is a more social town than Dallas, but Dallas is huge so it'd be easier to find a job.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

I spent a week in St Louis while I still lived in North Carolina, and as much as I hated NC I would have rather stayed in NC than to live in St Louis. I now live in Dallas and do like it here.

 

[ggnl]

Unless you're planning on going to college there, I'd rather live in Houston or San Antonio than Austin. There's been a large influx of yuppie douchebags into Austin since the early 2000s. It's not as cheap and bohemian as it used to be, it feels a lot like any other big city now. Expensive and crowded.

 

[MetalMat]

Austin is a great city, Dallas is cool. I love it up here. The cost of living is not high, weather is great, there are hot chicks everywhere. Only problem I find is that there are a high percentage of douchebags up here compared to Houston.

 

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Crusty
Austin > *

Fail

low cost of living

Granted, Austin and Dallas will be more than middle-of-nowhere Kentucky, but they are actually both really cheap compared to any of the other major cities.

Originally posted by: Gibsons
Austin's too hot in the summer and the traffic is bad. Stay away!

traffic is bad, it's not any hotter than anywhere else in the South.

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Babbles
Austin is quite often ranked as the number one city to live in. Relative low cost of living - oddly enough it's about the highest in Texas but compared to similar cities across the country it is much more affordable.

I used to live in the DFW area (Arlington) and really liked it. Texas is a good place to live - very cheap compared to most of the country - but I am sure a bunch of knuckleheads here on ATOT will say some crazy ignorant close-minded things to trash the state.

Austin's like a nugget of gold in a steaming pile of shit.

lol people say this all the time, it's really not that different from any of the other major cities in Texas. I lived in D/FW for 20 years, I have been in Austin for over a year now and while it is different, it's not night and day.

Mainly it's liberals who live in or like Austin that want to think it's so different so they can justify living in a red state.

 

[DainBramaged]

For what you want, I'd say Austin. Personally, I'd go for St. Louis. It's closest to Chicago.

 

[Svnla]

I vote Texas, especially Austin.

 

[nakedfrog]

I would definitely live in Austin again over St. Louis.

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Austin's like a nugget of gold in a steaming pile of shit.

lol people say this all the time, it's really not that different from any of the other major cities in Texas. I lived in D/FW for 20 years, I have been in Austin for over a year now and while it is different, it's not night and day.

Mainly it's liberals who live in or like Austin that want to think it's so different so they can justify living in a red state.

I agree x 1000.

The worst thing about Austin is the pretentious Austinites who shit all over the rest of the state. I swear to god I get weekly phone calls from friends up there telling me that I'm literally wasting my life becasue I haven't moved there. [rant]Fuck you hippies! You're not fucking cool because you left bumfuck, texas for austin and started smoking pot and riding a fucking bike. Fucking yokels playing urban sophisticate, go fuck yourselves. SXSW is fucking bullshit. 6th street is fucking bullshit. Your shitty music scene is fucking bullshit. You're not fucking special! You're just as shitty as the rest of the shitty state. [/rant]

 

[KeithTalent]

I've never been to Texas, but I've been to Missouri a few times, so my vote goes to Texas.

KT

 

[ggnl]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I've never been to Texas, but I've been to Missouri a few times, so my vote goes to Texas.

KT

I, too, would like to live in a place you've never been. The stains are just so hard to wash out.

 

[PepePeru]

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Austin's like a nugget of gold in a steaming pile of shit.

lol people say this all the time, it's really not that different from any of the other major cities in Texas. I lived in D/FW for 20 years, I have been in Austin for over a year now and while it is different, it's not night and day.

Mainly it's liberals who live in or like Austin that want to think it's so different so they can justify living in a red state.

I agree x 1000.

The worst thing about Austin is the pretentious Austinites who shit all over the rest of the state. I swear to god I get weekly phone calls from friends up there telling me that I'm literally wasting my life becasue I haven't moved there. [rant]Fuck you hippies! You're not fucking cool because you left bumfuck, texas for austin and started smoking pot and riding a fucking bike. Fucking yokels playing urban sophisticate, go fuck yourselves. SXSW is fucking bullshit. 6th street is fucking bullshit. Your shitty music scene is fucking bullshit. You're not fucking special! You're just as shitty as the rest of the shitty state. [/rant]

hahaha

i agree with some of your rant.
for having such a supposed great music scene, i'm hard pressed to name any good music to emanate from there.

Dynamite Hack? Oh yeah, them. Doing a cover of an Easy-E song. How clever.
Fastball? 1 hit wonder, 10+ years ago?
Ghostland Observatory? whatever, get the fuck outta here.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Austin's like a nugget of gold in a steaming pile of shit.

lol people say this all the time, it's really not that different from any of the other major cities in Texas. I lived in D/FW for 20 years, I have been in Austin for over a year now and while it is different, it's not night and day.

Mainly it's liberals who live in or like Austin that want to think it's so different so they can justify living in a red state.

I agree x 1000.

The worst thing about Austin is the pretentious Austinites who shit all over the rest of the state. I swear to god I get weekly phone calls from friends up there telling me that I'm literally wasting my life becasue I haven't moved there. [rant]Fuck you hippies! You're not fucking cool because you left bumfuck, texas for austin and started smoking pot and riding a fucking bike. Fucking yokels playing urban sophisticate, go fuck yourselves. SXSW is fucking bullshit. 6th street is fucking bullshit. Your shitty music scene is fucking bullshit. You're not fucking special! You're just as shitty as the rest of the shitty state. [/rant]

:laugh:

I guess I could be cool and not do all of things that make Austin unique. Let me guess, you hate ACL too and won't swim in Barton Springs either?

FWIW, there's a LOT more downtown then just 6th street. When people say they are going to 6th street, they really mean downtown. 4th and 5th street have picked up a lot and is a totally difference scene then 6th.

 

[ithec]

i've driven through dallas several times but it just seem like a big cluster fuck cement jungle.

I moved to austin. became a hippie. started smoking pot, bought a bike, attending SXSW this month. 6th street is a place to score an easy hot mother fucking lay. Music scene truly is exaggerated, but we still get our shit and attention.

 

[Crusty]

Originally posted by: G Wizard

Originally posted by: ggnl

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Austin's like a nugget of gold in a steaming pile of shit.

lol people say this all the time, it's really not that different from any of the other major cities in Texas. I lived in D/FW for 20 years, I have been in Austin for over a year now and while it is different, it's not night and day.

Mainly it's liberals who live in or like Austin that want to think it's so different so they can justify living in a red state.

I agree x 1000.

The worst thing about Austin is the pretentious Austinites who shit all over the rest of the state. I swear to god I get weekly phone calls from friends up there telling me that I'm literally wasting my life becasue I haven't moved there. [rant]Fuck you hippies! You're not fucking cool because you left bumfuck, texas for austin and started smoking pot and riding a fucking bike. Fucking yokels playing urban sophisticate, go fuck yourselves. SXSW is fucking bullshit. 6th street is fucking bullshit. Your shitty music scene is fucking bullshit. You're not fucking special! You're just as shitty as the rest of the shitty state. [/rant]

hahaha

i agree with some of your rant.
for having such a supposed great music scene, i'm hard pressed to name any good music to emanate from there.

Dynamite Hack? Oh yeah, them. Doing a cover of an Easy-E song. How clever.
Fastball? 1 hit wonder, 10+ years ago?
Ghostland Observatory? whatever, get the fuck outta here.

It's not about the 'big names' that are born from Austin, Austin's music scene is all about the shows in town. There are hundreds of venues around Austin and you can catch a show any night of the week. Sometimes they are local bands, sometimes local bands from other areas, and sometimes they are big names. The point is that it's diverse, always alive and driven by local venues and artists.

 

[sandorski]

The Third option is Suicide. Might be something worth considering in this case. :Q

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: Semidevil
anybody have experience w/ 1 or both of these states?

Texas meaning: austin, dallas,
Missouri meaning St louis.

I'm looking for: nice weather, low crime rate, friendly people, more job opportunities, more choice of universities, low cost of living, overall living condition.

You'll find all of those things in St. Louis plus so so much more...