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Live! dos support

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wolf550e

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I know nobody uses dos anymore but i have some programs (games, demos...) that will not run from a windows dos box, and need real dos mode.
I have Creative Sound Blaster Live! Value and i cant find the dos drivers inside liveware 3.0 or on creative's site.

please tell me there are some emu10k drivers for 16bit dos non giu enviroment, and i can get them.
(and where...)
 
hmmm.....my normal drivers install this "SB16 Emulation" thingie that I can find in System/Device controls/Creative Misc. Devices. It shows those old, well-known numbers like DMA, IRQ, etc. and I think it works in DOS......but I'm not sure of course.

try Creative's support, they're pretty good
 
thats the problem. it is a virtual device in win9x.
when i shut down windows and go to dos mode, no sound support!
i was talking about real 16bit dos drivers. (with .sys and .exe files, no .dll and .ocx/.vxd 32bit stuff)
we all have the sb16 emulation by creative. even on older chips (vibra128 had it...)
 
There is DOS support. When you install LiveWare 3.0 the option for support is given....it should place a line in your autoexec.bat about SBESET and SBCONFIG or something like that, while you need HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE in the config.sys for it to work.

It seems to work OK in DOS, but it completely doesn't work in Win 3.x.
 
i saw these config and autoexec lines at another computer, and they point to drivers located in a sub directory c:\program files\creative\sblive\dos
i dont have it! where/when during install of liveware there is the option to install dos support?
 
To get them to show up, I first had to install the original drivers for my Live! (dated sometime in 1998, old stuff.) Those gave me the option to install DOS support. I then installed LiveWare 3.0 on top of them; actually LW3 deletes whatever old drivers it finds and installs fresh ones, but if it sees the DOS drivers on the system, it will update them. If it doesn't see them they don't get installed.

I don't know how good the newer DOS drivers are, I haven't really tried them out yet (the old ones suck tho!).

-Pain

(Edit: need to wipe all driver references to the SB Live! out of your system in a hurry? run the file c:\program files\creative\SBLive\program\ctzapdev.exe. It's quite efficient. :Q)
 
the dos drivers are there, you have to activate them in your autoexec and config.sys commands. If you have an old dos manual around it'll explain how. (sorry can't help much right now; I'm not at my system or else I could just print out the commands I use.)

most of those old dos games also give you the option of creating a boot disk; this usually does a decent job of setting up you autoexec.bat and config.sys files.

I'll keep an eye on this thread and if someone else doesn't give you some examples I'll post some. good luck
 
PainMan, thank you very much!
I have found the original live cd and installed it (after killing the liveware3 using that cute utility), installed the old liveware (2.0 i think (?)), then upgraded to liveware3 and updated the drivers to latest version (win32 drivers, not dos).
and it did install the DOS directory, with config.sys and autoexec.bat lines to the dos device drivers.

Second Reality sounds great!
 
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